NEWS Brisbane can't afford to wait for Milford

john1420 said:
I don't know about other folks, but for me it's not as simple as "Wayne 'can do no wrong' Bennett"

Wayne is human and is therefore capable of making mistakes

But he is one of the greatest coaches in history and I have never even played the game, so I really want to be careful when I hold the opinion that I'm right and WB got it wrong

It's actually possible that I am right, and WB is wrong, but the likelihood is higher it's the other way around

Still, he CAN and HAS made mistakes in the past and a lot of folks on here think he's made one here, and you may well be right
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Only have to look at what he did to Newcastle too se that he’s capable of big mistakes when it comes to rosters and recruitment.
 
pagey said:
Instinctive or not he still needs to learn these faucets of the game ! You seriously can't tell me he can never learn these things, it's a part of a footballers career. People learn every day so why can't milford ? He learnt how to step,jink and flick pass! It all comes down to application and practice. Which is exactly what locky is talking about ...
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One needs to know the faucets if your wanting to have them on tap . LOL .
 
Okay so bear with me on this one. I've gone through the league's halves and graded them into a top tier, regarding game control, which seems to be milf's problem, and a tier just a level below the very top guys. I've obviously left out the ones I would regard as average.

Name and age:

JT 34,
Michael Morgan 26,
Shaun Johnson 27,
Mitchell Pearce 28
DCE 29
Gareth Widdop 28
Cooper Cronk 34
Kieran Foran 27
James Maloney 31
Nathan Cleary 20

A case could also be made for
Corey Norman 27
Adam Reynolds 27
Ben Hunt 27
Blake Green 31

Average age is 28.2

Now look at a few playmakers who are under massive pressure to start leading their team around.

Anthony Milford 23
Ashley Taylor 22
Kane Elgey 24
Kodi Nikorima 22
Luke Brooks 23
Mitchell Moses 23
Cameron Munster 23
Brodie Croft 20

Average age is 22.5

So what does all this tell us? Apart from the obvious exception in Nathan Cleary, are we kidding ourselves in expecting Milford to be capable of steering the team around the park?
A look at every other team says we are. Milf is on average 5 years younger than top controlling halves. And to me that's a far better comparison than just comparing pay packets. Experience in the halves is crucial.

Now it is possible for him to join the elite. See Nathan Cleary. But how likely is it?

Just one more thing I realised myself putting this together. Did we let Ben Hunt go just as he was coming into his prime????
 
scobie said:
Okay so bear with me on this one. I've gone through the league's halves and graded them into a top tier, regarding game control, which seems to be milf's problem, and a tier just a level below the very top guys. I've obviously left out the ones I would regard as average.

Name and age:

JT 34,
Michael Morgan 26,
Shaun Johnson 27,
Mitchell Pearce 28
DCE 29
Gareth Widdop 28
Cooper Cronk 34
Kieran Foran 27
James Maloney 31
Nathan Cleary 20

A case could also be made for
Corey Norman 27
Adam Reynolds 27
Ben Hunt 27
Blake Green 31

Average age is 28.2

Now look at a few playmakers who are under massive pressure to start leading their team around.

Anthony Milford 23
Ashley Taylor 22
Kane Elgey 24
Kodi Nikorima 22
Luke Brooks 23
Mitchell Moses 23
Cameron Munster 23
Brodie Croft 20

Average age is 22.5

So what does all this tell us? Apart from the obvious exception in Nathan Cleary, are we kidding ourselves in expecting Milford to be capable of steering the team around the park?
A look at every other team says we are. Milf is on average 5 years younger than top controlling halves. And to me that's a far better comparison than just comparing pay packets. Experience in the halves is crucial.

Now it is possible for him to join the elite. See Nathan Cleary. But how likely is it?

Just one more thing I realised myself putting this together. Did we let Ben Hunt go just as he was coming into his prime????
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Nice post but we didn't let Ben Hunt go. He left.
 
Alec said:
Anyway, as I said, I think he has a lot of potential. It just seems like someone who doesn't really want to learn or listen. Wasn't there an article a year ago where he rejected Locky's help? I think he can learn, like Thurston did. Just needs to be willing. It's actually why I thought Kodi should get the shot running the side - to me it looked like he was much more willing to learn than Milf.
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That seemed to be Lockyer's, not so underlying message in this article. I thought the story last year was a beat up.

I don't know him personally (Milford) but he doesn't seem like the sort of young guy to me who would refuse help....
...... the Broncos or Wayne Bennett don't seem to be the sort of identity who would stand by and allow a young player to refuse to participate in any type of training.

Maybe this is a Lockyer / Milford thing? I had certain positive preconceptions about Lockyer's character....that is, until I saw his new hair-do the other night. That was just bizarre.

I'm hoping Kevie has a big influence on Milf this year.....
 
scobie said:
Okay so bear with me on this one. I've gone through the league's halves and graded them into a top tier, regarding game control, which seems to be milf's problem, and a tier just a level below the very top guys. I've obviously left out the ones I would regard as average.

Name and age:

JT 34,
Michael Morgan 26,
Shaun Johnson 27,
Mitchell Pearce 28
DCE 29
Gareth Widdop 28
Cooper Cronk 34
Kieran Foran 27
James Maloney 31
Nathan Cleary 20

A case could also be made for
Corey Norman 27
Adam Reynolds 27
Ben Hunt 27
Blake Green 31

Average age is 28.2

Now look at a few playmakers who are under massive pressure to start leading their team around.

Anthony Milford 23
Ashley Taylor 22
Kane Elgey 24
Kodi Nikorima 22
Luke Brooks 23
Mitchell Moses 23
Cameron Munster 23
Brodie Croft 20

Average age is 22.5

So what does all this tell us? Apart from the obvious exception in Nathan Cleary, are we kidding ourselves in expecting Milford to be capable of steering the team around the park?
A look at every other team says we are. Milf is on average 5 years younger than top controlling halves. And to me that's a far better comparison than just comparing pay packets. Experience in the halves is crucial.

Now it is possible for him to join the elite. See Nathan Cleary. But how likely is it?

Just one more thing I realised myself putting this together. Did we let Ben Hunt go just as he was coming into his prime????
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Might tell us that our coaching staff have had some bad judgement calls when it comes to rosters and stacking experienced players in the right areas. Also suggests they just haven’t got the balance correct when it comes to certain positions.

Milford is a great talent, he’s also paid very well for his talent too so I believe the criticism levelled at him is fair but I will say the coaching staff decided he was worth that money so they can share equal blame for their rostering as well as Milford’s own accountability for prolonged poor form.
 
Mr Fourex said:
Maybe this is a Lockyer / Milford thing? I had certain positive preconceptions about Lockyer's character....that is, until I saw his new hair-do the other night. That was just bizarre.

I'm hoping Kevie has a big influence on Milf this year.....
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lol wtf
 
Everyone needs to calm down......

It wasn't a great performance but obviously the Sydney media has gotten into a few people's thinking. They say this "dropping down the ladder" stuff about us every year and now we finally lost round 1 it's somehow confirmed their predictions? Lol seriously...

Just from the last few years the 2011, 2013, 2015 and 2016 premiers lost their first game. We lost our first game in 2006 and drew in 2000. Im not saying we will win it but the sky is not falling, the game wasn't confirmation of Ben hunts future immortality, Bennett isn't going to get sacked, Milford hasn't ate all his talent away, ect etc...

We had a poor attitude that night, we looked tired. Someone said it before but it is a bennett trademark to smash them so close to the season. My thinking is it is more of a mental thing then a physical prepping (eg games won't feel hard later in the season if you haven't had to run your ass off all week in other games).

I'm not saying we shouldn't judge them on this game but people getting their tarot cards out and predicting a long year based solely on this game is way over the top....
 
I don't think he's lived up to the hype TBH. He has so much potential but I don't think his attitude is where it needs to be for him to live up to that potential.
 
scobie said:
Okay so bear with me on this one. I've gone through the league's halves and graded them into a top tier, regarding game control, which seems to be milf's problem, and a tier just a level below the very top guys. I've obviously left out the ones I would regard as average.

Name and age:

JT 34,
Michael Morgan 26,
Shaun Johnson 27,
Mitchell Pearce 28
DCE 29
Gareth Widdop 28
Cooper Cronk 34
Kieran Foran 27
James Maloney 31
Nathan Cleary 20

A case could also be made for
Corey Norman 27
Adam Reynolds 27
Ben Hunt 27
Blake Green 31

Average age is 28.2

Now look at a few playmakers who are under massive pressure to start leading their team around.

Anthony Milford 23
Ashley Taylor 22
Kane Elgey 24
Kodi Nikorima 22
Luke Brooks 23
Mitchell Moses 23
Cameron Munster 23
Brodie Croft 20

Average age is 22.5

So what does all this tell us? Apart from the obvious exception in Nathan Cleary, are we kidding ourselves in expecting Milford to be capable of steering the team around the park?
A look at every other team says we are. Milf is on average 5 years younger than top controlling halves. And to me that's a far better comparison than just comparing pay packets. Experience in the halves is crucial.

Now it is possible for him to join the elite. See Nathan Cleary. But how likely is it?

Just one more thing I realised myself putting this together. Did we let Ben Hunt go just as he was coming into his prime????
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I think your point about average ages is flawed because that would imply that all of those top halves have only just become elite level, which is not the case. Thurston was nrl player of the year in 2005, aged 22. Morgan has been tearing bronco arse for around 4 years now, so again 22. Cherry Evans premiership halfback age 22, and Dally M 23.. etc etc. Milfs age is not really relevant, he's been around long enough, played enough to be showing more. I'm a fence sitter in the hope it all clicks camp, but age is not his issue... all those players were great young, but have just evolved to become greater as they got older.
 
Milf just doesn't handle expectation and pressure well imo. It affects him. He looked really happy in 2015 but since then he has increasingly looked like he is carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders.
 
Milford certainly cops plenty on here but he isn't going that bad. The other night was his first real hit out after major surgery on his shoulder and he looked a little tentative because of it which is natural. During the stretch and playoff drive of last year, he was consistently our best player despite that bung shoulder. The likes of Milf, Boyd, Moose, Gillo etc will be just fine and will do their job. It's their large supporting cast that I have deep reservations about.
 
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