Broncos Player Movement and Rumours 2020

[upthebroncs]

Harsh putting Parcell there.

I wasn’t insinuating that those players are bad. Just that we didn’t help them reach their potential and they have left the club.

 

[Alec]

Noone has mentioned that our previous rebuild of the club was a fail.

Josh Hoffman, Gerard Beale, Ben Hunt, Corey Norman, Josh McGuire, David Hala, Dale Copley, Dane Gagai, Jordan Kahu, Dunamis Lui, Matt Parcell

None ever brought us a premiership.

Glenn never reached the heights we hoped.
Macca is horrible.

Gillett has been the best thing to come from that “rebuild”.

I still miss Jharal Yow Yeh on the wing

Re-builds always seem to fail. Looking at it in a different way, it's just developing players for other clubs to take them. You really have to buy quality players too.

 

[Gaz]

Re-builds always seem to fail. Looking at it in a different way, it's just developing players for other clubs to take them. You really have to buy quality players too.

Exactly.
If you decide, as the Broncos have, to go down the development club pathway there are many pros and cons to deal with.
All players in our system must have shown some promise or they wouldn’t be.
Firstly, those young fellas, generally on above average money, need to resist the temptations of their generation and keep their mind on the job at hand. If they succeed and pop out the other end at 18 or 19yrs old the club has to choose who to keep and who to release. Seems to me, more often then not we either make the wrong decision or the vultures come and take that decision out of our hands by offering overs. Ash Taylor and Ben Hunt come to mind. Even then one appears to have worked out the other not so much. It really is a case of supply and demand. When one of your gun players retires he needs to be replaced by a suitably experienced developed player or a buy in. If neither happens it creates a void, a gap, and if a number of players are involved, the gap widens and all of a sudden your talking about a club rebuilding. Our young team is not yet suitably experienced and unless these so called “good signings” are the players required at the minute we still have some waiting to do.
It’s no coincidence that both top of the ladder teams and last year grand finalists are not development clubs but in fact vultures.

If the NRL continues to ignore our effort in developing players perhaps we would be better off dropping it and become a vulture club too.

 

[heartly87]

Re-builds always seem to fail. Looking at it in a different way, it's just developing players for other clubs to take them. You really have to buy quality players too.

This is what i have been saying also. A club needs to play both sides of the coin. The roosters are more into buying and I see Melbs as the gold standard for both development and buying as needed. They seemed to learn the cap lesson after their cheating days.

Our club needs a few more Glenn style players to be honest. Good for your buck players. Mix that with more high end in the spine.

We are in a hard place at the moment because we seem to have a fair amount of coin in our forward pack and one not filled with experience. If only we could find one hard nosed lock that can play 80. To much spent on aged spine players who are not giving any value for money.

I think Seibs did walk into a bit of a dodge situation here. Maybe Wayne could have got his team playing well but Seibs couldn't. Thats the teams fault as much as his. But i am thinking what would Wayne do to get his premiership. Was he not caring about the future. We will see how Souths end up post Wayne. We will also see what Seibs does here if he is not turfed.

 

[the_next]

Sounds like the Lodge deal is long term, upto 5yrs.
If this is the case, I would not at all be surprised if he has been told he will be captain when Darius finally hangs up the boots.
I would also assume that securing Lodge long term, will also lead to securing TPJ long term. The two are very close, and want to stay together. I doubt it will be a 1yr contract for TPJ this time round.
Hopefully if we can keep this side together for the next 3-5yrs, if so, I think the good times will be (hopefully) not too far away.

 

[theshed]

I’m more of the belief that the ‘imminent signings’ are referring to the re-signings of Lodge, TPJ etc, and I’m not expecting any big name new recruits.

I would love it though if the rumoured Milford shift, along with cutting Kodi is a strategic one with a new marquee spine player on the way. Though I fear it is just an act of desperation.

 

[broncos4life]

If we have signed Lodge long term I will be over the moon.

 

[upthebroncs]

Sounds like the Lodge deal is long term, upto 5yrs.
If this is the case, I would not at all be surprised if he has been told he will be captain when Darius finally hangs up the boots.
I would also assume that securing Lodge long term, will also lead to securing TPJ long term. The two are very close, and want to stay together. I doubt it will be a 1yr contract for TPJ this time round.
Hopefully if we can keep this side together for the next 3-5yrs, if so, I think the good times will be (hopefully) not too far away.

Why would we want Lodge as our captain? I find this confusing.

If he’s our best option, we definitely need to recruit someone.

We’re still missing a premiership winning half.

If Milford is at fullback and gets back to the form he showed at Raiders when he first made NRL then we don’t have to worry about that position anymore.

Any suggestions on halves?

When is Munster off contract?

 

[Morepudding]

he says "signings" not "re-signings"

Yeah probs a bunch of Qcuppers...
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Sounds like the Lodge deal is long term, upto 5yrs.
If this is the case, I would not at all be surprised if he has been told he will be captain when Darius finally hangs up the boots.
I would also assume that securing Lodge long term, will also lead to securing TPJ long term. The two are very close, and want to stay together. I doubt it will be a 1yr contract for TPJ this time round.
Hopefully if we can keep this side together for the next 3-5yrs, if so, I think the good times will be (hopefully) not too far away.

I don't think broncos power brokers would allow lodge to be captain. The way Milford has been doing a lot of Media, I think he is next.

 

[Foordy]

Yeah probs a bunch of Qcuppers...

even if they are from either the ISC or NSW Cup, doesn't necessarily make them bad ...

so many people had been advocating we chase Drinkwater, who for all intents and purposes was a qcupper (he played 1 match for Melbourne and he didn't even complete that match before getting a long term injury)

 

[ostin86]

Broncos Fans "Israel Falou is scum, he uses words that hurt people's feelings. He can stay away from our club!"

Also Broncos Fans "Matt Lodge is a saint, a shining beacon of leadership for our young impressionable players. Let's forget about his previous misdemeanors and make him captain!"

 

[the_next]

Why would we want Lodge as our captain? I find this confusing.

If he’s our best option, we definitely need to recruit someone.

We’re still missing a premiership winning half.

If Milford is at fullback and gets back to the form he showed at Raiders when he first made NRL then we don’t have to worry about that position anymore.

Any suggestions on halves?

When is Munster off contract?

It's just what my opinion of it is.
If the warriors offered the reported 1mill/yr (or even close to it) I would be very surprised if Brisbane didn't have to up their original offer, or include something like captaincy in the updated offer. Lodge has also been added to the leadership group, I think I also saw somewhere that Milf wasn't in this group.
Lodge has prob been our most consistent player this year, and possibly even last year as well.
Other than that, I don't see any other standout leaders in this group unfortunately. There could be a case for Glenn, but I', not sure if his future will be at Brisbane come 2019+
I think Dearden and SOS could work in the halves, if Milf proves he should be FB, and SOS makes the most of his time in the halves whilst Dearden is out.
We also have Paix who has just re-signed, but I think they were looking at him as a 9. With Turps, that may have changed things again, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Paix in the halves at some stage with Dearden, and Turps at 9.
1. Milf
6. SOS/Milf/Paix
7. Dearden
9. Turps
Boyd can move to the centres, or Q cup.
As for Munster, I am sure that he re-signed with Melbourne maybe last year? I think we've missed the boat there..

 

[Sproj]

I feel like what this club doesn't do well is identify the key pieces that will bring success and then keep it going.

As always, the Storm lead the field in this regard. They pick guys who are talented but also ultra competitive and then figure out where to put them later.

They don't recruit a million kids as far as I am aware but they sit back and watch the state leagues and other clubs young 'uns and then once the kids hit their later teens, select the ones that exhibit talent yes, but are competitive and calm under pressure more.

So that way, they get kids like Munster, Scott, Vunivalu even, B.Smith, Hughes, etc.

They then fill in the gaps around that with solid role players.

The Broncs tend to sign every kid who looks bigger, faster, stronger than anyone else early on and keep the highly rated ones, not necessarily the best performing ones, regardless of work ethic. The current kids all speak well and talk about putting in the effort but whether this is backed up by actions is obviously something I have no idea whether is happening or not.

As mentioned, the Broncs have few experienced players to learn from too which doesn't help and the fact that the two most prominent leaders with experience also seem to both be more than fortunate to be in the team, let alone the spine.

I'm really not sure where this club is heading but I'm certainly not sure it is in the right direction. That said, change needed to happen, regardless of finals appearances and two years will make or break Siebold. However, if it does break Siebs, how much more of the club will be broken in the meantime as well?

 

[Sproj]

Broncos Fans "Israel Falou is scum, he uses words that hurt people's feelings. He can stay away from our club!"

Also Broncos Fans "Matt Lodge is a saint, a shining beacon of leadership for our young impressionable players. Let's forget about his previous misdemeanors and make him captain!"

There is a massive difference though and I am fairly sure you would be aware of it.

One has shown through both words and actions that he has turned his life around and wants to be a good person, the other is refusing to listen to reason and is turning on a victim mentality which doesn't sit well with people, regardless of whether they agree with him or not. He also appears to trying to financially take advantage of his situation.

 

[theshed]

Broncos Fans "Israel Falou is scum, he uses words that hurt people's feelings. He can stay away from our club!"

Also Broncos Fans "Matt Lodge is a saint, a shining beacon of leadership for our young impressionable players. Let's forget about his previous misdemeanors and make him captain!"

This is a really stupid comment format that keeps appearing. Other examples are “people wanted Milford to play fullback, Milford ships to fullback and everyone says Milford is a half!”, another example is “Kodi isn’t an NRL half, cant believe we forced Kodi out!”


The reason this is so dumb is because “broncos fans” isn’t one entity. Many of us disagree on every topic. So you can always find people who are arguing for something to happen and then find people who complain when it does happen. Many people who were defending Folau are probably also not morally against Lodge being captain, and many of the folks that were anti-Folau are probably also anti-Lodge captaincy.

 

[ostin86]

I agree Lodge has been exemplary in his time here with the Broncos. Unfortunately, only certain types of people are capable of the threatening behaviour be exhibited in the US. When we signed him I did not want him. I am tolerant of the decision to keep him but I want him no where near the captaincy.

In regards to Israel I do not agree with what you said and I don't wish to pursue any potential debate which could derail this thread. I simply wanted to point out the hypocrisy of many fans.
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There is a massive difference though and I am fairly sure you would be aware of it.

One has shown through both words and actions that he has turned his life around and wants to be a good person, the other is refusing to listen to reason and is turning on a victim mentality which doesn't sit well with people, regardless of whether they agree with him or not. He also appears to trying to financially take advantage of his situation.

agree Lodge has been exemplary in his time here with the Broncos. Unfortunately, only certain types of people are capable of the threatening behaviour be exhibited in the US. When we signed him I did not want him. I am tolerant of the decision to keep him but I want him no where near the captaincy.

In regards to Israel I do not agree with what you said and I don't wish to pursue any potential debate which could derail this thread. I simply wanted to point out the hypocrisy of many fans.

 

[Lockysillegitimatechild]

Broncos Fans "Israel Falou is scum, he uses words that hurt people's feelings. He can stay away from our club!"

Also Broncos Fans "Matt Lodge is a saint, a shining beacon of leadership for our young impressionable players. Let's forget about his previous misdemeanors and make him captain!"

Lodge can't do anymore to say he is sorry for his actions. It was a moment of poor judgement that hurt people. It has cost him $100,000s, he still gets abused on field by crowds, he would have got picked for origin by now too, he has apologised formally and informally on multiple occasions.
I'm yet to hear an apology from Folau. In fact, I may have overlooked his stupidity had he just shut up and shut down his twitter. He only has himself to blame, you don't see lodge going on twitter bagging out the family he had to pay. Given the way he has handled the situation, his religious views don't surprise me given that there is a correlation between education and religious fanaticism

 

[ostin86]

This is a really stupid comment format that keeps appearing. Other examples are “people wanted Milford to play fullback, Milford ships to fullback and everyone says Milford is a half!”, another example is “Kodi isn’t an NRL half, cant believe we forced Kodi out!”


The reason this is so dumb is because “broncos fans” isn’t one entity. Many of us disagree on every topic. So you can always find people who are arguing for something to happen and then find people who complain when it does happen. Many people who were defending Folau are probably also not morally against Lodge being captain, and many of the folks that were anti-Folau are probably also anti-Lodge captaincy.

You really think there aren't people on this forum with the mentality I highlighted? Of course there is a variety of opinions on this forum, my comment was not overly specific. If it doesn't apply to you than it should not really bother you.