Broncos Player Movement and Rumours 2020

[Unbreakable]

Even souths fans aren't happy with Cody right now. They think that while he occasionally shows some brilliance, it's really rare - he's more likely to do something stupid. Apparently super inconsistent.

Do you think we need another inconsistent performer in the halves? It's true that he may have a higher ceiling than Kodi, but we already have a brilliant running half - Milford. I'd much rather someone less brilliant but more consistent partnering with milf.

Seeing as we already have Bird, I'd rather take him in the halves than Cody. That's assuming we rule out Kodi and can't get Taylor.

I feel as though he's a bit more like a less consistent milf, with a lower ceiling - a budget milf. Don't really see what he would bring to us that we need or don't already have.

He does have his flashes of brilliance, but as I said before, I'd rather someone more stable next to milf.

Cody Walker - 11 games, 1,236 metres, 2 tries, 11 try assists, 9 line-breaks, 9 line-break assists, 41 tackle breaks, 5 errors.
Anthony Milford - 11 games, 1,098 metres, 4 tries, 7 try assists, 4 line-breaks, 7 line-break assists, 46 tackle breaks, 17 errors.

It's okay to be biased Broncos supporters sometimes, but you're being ridiculous right now. Walker has been Souths best player and has been far more consistent and reliable than Milford (Or Nikorima..) this season. To say that Kodi is a more consistent and stable option than Walker is to only prove your lack of knowledge on the subject, I'd happily take Cody, he's a massive upgrade on Nikorima.

 

[Marty Deutschmann]

Cody Walker - 11 games, 1,236 metres, 2 tries, 11 try assists, 9 line-breaks, 9 line-break assists, 41 tackle breaks, 5 errors.
Anthony Milford - 11 games, 1,098 metres, 4 tries, 7 try assists, 4 line-breaks, 7 line-break assists, 46 tackle breaks, 17 errors.

It's okay to be biased Broncos supporters sometimes, but you're being ridiculous right now. Walker has been Souths best player and has been far more consistent and reliable than Milford (Or Nikorima..) this season. To say that Kodi is a more consistent and stable option than Walker is to only prove your lack of knowledge on the subject, I'd happily take Cody, he's a massive upgrade on Nikorima.

He's also older mate. He's no doubt a great player. I saw him a few years back for the first time and thought gee.. How is this guy not playing regular NRL.

But he doesn't have the ceiling our guys do. He's also at that point in his career that he needs to secure his biggest contract. He hasn't been playing Nrl long enough over the years to have built up enough money for post career.

 

[_noosh]

I can't be called out on bias because the consistency comments were originally made by South supporters themselves. I'm only repeating them.

Cody may have been more consistent than Milf (this year), but do you believe that he has a higher ceiling?

If Souths fans themselves consider Cody to be inconsistent, and Milf is also inconsistent(as you've pointed out), do you honestly want to see that halves pairing going forward? You can't just fill your team full of strike players and expect them to perform.

Rather than misconstrue my argument, then attack it, answer me these following questions:

• What position would you want Cody to play at the Broncos?
• What attributes do you think the Broncos are current missing in the halves considering milf is our long-term half?
• What attributes of those you listed above do you think that Cody satisfies?
• What attributes does he not satisfy?

Cody has shown far more than Kodi has, but are honestly arguing that he's what we need? That he's such a good fit that he's worth poaching?

EDIT: To disprove your comment about my bias, here are some comments of Cody Walker made by some south supporters, and non-broncos supporters (I found these in less than 10 seconds - it's not like I went digging):

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[_noosh]

Anyway, my point is, the main attributes that BHQ seem to be looking for in our halves partner for milf are:

• Good game management skills
• Good kicking game
• Cool, collected, consistent player

Cody offers none of those. His attributes seem more aligned with milfs than the above. In what he excels in, I personally believe Milf is superior - hence my comment about him being a budget milf. Chances are, the majority of the NRL community would agree with me, so it's completely unfair to call me out saying I have a "lack of knowledge" and that I'm "being ridiculous".

 

[Unbreakable]

Anyway, my point is, the main attributes that BHQ seem to be looking for in our halves partner for milf are:

• Good game management skills
• Good kicking game
• Cool, collected, consistent player

Cody offers none of those. His attributes seem more aligned with milfs than the above. In what he excels in, I personally believe Milf is superior - hence my comment about him being a budget milf. Chances are, the majority of the NRL community would agree with me, so it's completely unfair to call me out saying I have a "lack of knowledge" and that I'm "being ridiculous".

You've changed your argument rather rapidly, I notice you've started leaving out the part where you claim that Kodi is a far more consistent and stable player.. Would you care to back that up with statistics, highlights or any form of proof? That was the part that I was questioning, Cody, whilst he does have his flaws is undoubtedly a better, more consistent player than Nikorima right now, anyone who says otherwise simply doesn't watch enough football.

 

[_noosh]

You've changed your argument rather rapidly, I notice you've started leaving out the part where you claim that Kodi is a far more consistent and stable
player.. Would you care to back that up with statistics, highlights or any form of proof? That was the part that I was questioning, Cody, whilst he does have his flaws is undoubtedly a better, more consistent player than Nikorima right now, anyone who says otherwise simply doesn't watch enough football.

Even souths fans aren't happy with Cody right now. They think that while he occasionally shows some brilliance, it's really rare - he's more likely to do something stupid. Apparently super inconsistent.

Do you think we need another inconsistent performer in the halves? It's true that he may have a higher ceiling than Kodi, but we already have a brilliant running half - Milford. I'd much rather someone less brilliant but more consistent partnering with milf.

Seeing as we already have Bird, I'd rather take him in the halves than Cody. That's assuming we rule out Kodi and can't get Taylor.

Is this the part you're talking about? I've changed my story? Wow, you embelish or misconstrue what I've said, then attack it like it was my main point, completely ignoring every other point I've made.

Can YOU give me examples of times Kodi has been inconsistent in the halves? Of times he's been flustered and made bad choices in the halves? I'm not saying he's been good, I said that Kodi might be more consistent. But South supporters themselves and others have called Cody inconsistent, so I'm not alone.

I'm not even saying that Kodi is our answer for the halves, let alone that he's a better player than Cody so I'm completely baffled at your arguments.

While you're at it, can you answer my questions that you've conveniently ignored? I've gone to the liberty of bolding them for you.

Cody may have been more consistent than Milf (this year), but do you believe that he has a higher ceiling?

If Souths fans themselves consider Cody to be inconsistent, and Milf is also inconsistent(as you've pointed out), do you honestly want to see that halves pairing going forward? You can't just fill your team full of strike players and expect them to perform.

Rather than misconstrue my argument, then attack it, answer me these following questions:

• What position would you want Cody to play at the Broncos?
• What attributes do you think the Broncos are current missing in the halves considering milf is our long-term half?
• What attributes of those you listed above do you think that Cody satisfies?
• What attributes does he not satisfy?

Cody has shown far more than Kodi has, but are honestly arguing that he's what we need? That he's such a good fit that he's worth poaching?

Answer those and consider taking what you're saying seriously and possibly agree to disagree. Otherwise, your attacks are unjustified.

p.s. here's another quote for ya:


Edit:
Is this the quote your referring to? I still didn't say what you're claiming I said.

I sure hope not. Cody Walker offers nothing that we really need. Kodi potentially might.

 

[Unbreakable]

@_noosh You're putting way too much effort in to these posts. I simply don't agree with your points, is that too hard to comprehend?

He does have his flashes of brilliance, but as I said before, I'd rather someone more stable next to milf.

What proof do you have that Nikorima is more stable than Walker apart from a few comments on Reddit? Do you watch games? Nikorima has shown exactly what most people expected him to show since he's been starting, good running game, non-existent long kicking game, inconsistent short kicking game. Walker has been Souths best player and was arguably the best Half in the comp for the first 6-8 rounds, if you watched games, you would know that.

I'd much rather someone less brilliant but more consistent partnering with milf.

So.. Cody Walker then?

 

[_noosh]

Effort meaning addressing your points, providing sources like you requested. I'm happy to agree to disagree, but not when you're arguing against points of mine you've twisted to mean something else - it's just cheap.

I don't have any proof that Nikorima is more stable than Cody. If you've read what I've said (multiple times now), I said that Kodi might have what we need (he might not - hence why I've also stated that he might not be the answer). But that Cody Walker does NOT have what we need. He offers us nothing that we don't already have. And we'd have to poach him while paying him enough to pack his bags and travel north. Why go to all that when he doesn't fix ANY of our glaring issues?

You've still ignored the part where I've asked you to state what Cody brings to us that we need. If you say his ability to organise, or his kicking game, or his cool and consistent play-making - then i'll be happy to agree to disagree. That is, and has been my argument the whole time...

 

[_noosh]

Haha, yeah. It got me a few times writing all that :)

 

[Unbreakable]

You've still ignored the part where I've asked you to state what Cody brings to us that we need. If you say his ability to organise, or his kicking game, or his cool and consistent play-making - then i'll be happy to agree to disagree. That is, and has been my argument the whole time...

Cody would bring us a good NRL player that's versatile enough to play anywhere 1-7, similar to Jack Bird. I've never claimed that Walker is the organising Halfback we need, but I will say that he's FAR more developed in the traditional Halfback skills than Nikorima is, thus would be a big upgrade for next year for us, and also allow us to play Bird somewhere other than Five-Eighth, further strengthening our outside backs or forwards.

My problem with your argument is that it appears to be based purely on a few comments on Reddit, you haven't given a single a single example or display of Walker being this incredibly inconsistent and unstable player that you're claiming, he has 5 errors to his name for the season and is among the top players for Try Assists, Line-Breaks, Line-Break Assists. You don't get to that position by being all of these things that you're claiming, unless you're referencing lack of repeat sets and things of the sort, which he often relies on Adam Reynolds to do (As you would, he has one of the best short kicking games in the competition..) I just don't buy it, anyone who's watched the Rabbitohs this year knows that Walker has been much better than anticipated, you can't rely on 4 self-absorbed fans on Reddit who are bad-mouthing Walker purely because they won't want their club to pay $700,000 a season for him. I'll guarantee each of those guys would be devastated if he left.

 

[Allo]

Walker is just a good footy player. If he wants to play here, you find a spot for him. And yes this year he's been less consistent, mainly because he's had to do everything to get Souths even close to winning games. His age is only dictating how much he's after, not his ability

 

[_noosh]

My opinions weren't founded because of those posts. You called me out for bias and for being ridiculous making those comments. I looked for all of 30 seconds and found posts that showed otherwise.

In regards to his versatility, let's agree to disagree. Yes, he's versatile, but we don't need versatility. We need a half, not a utility. His versatility means nothing to me.

In regards to his skills as a halfback, once again, let's agree to disagree. He may be more developed as a half than Nikorima(right now), but I don't think you say that he's a halfback. He played as a five-eighth at the souths. I haven't seen anything from him that shows his skillset compliments milfords. In fact, haven't the Souths shunted him back out of the halves in favour of sutton? We have five-eighths - we don't need to buy more.

In regards to the stats, I don't put much value in them. Stats don't represent the full picture. Didn't a lot of people here express concerns over Hunt last year? Yet wasn't he like 2nd in try assists that year? Stats can be incredibly misleading. I'd much rather take people's input - especially those who have been watching him the most - hence the quotes.

Essentially, if we're going to buy a half, I'd rather buy a half that we actually need. Not more of which we already have. If we can't find the right person, I'd much rather give someone like Niko a shot than waste money and years on someone who won't. Niko is an open book in regards to his capability of fulfilling our needs. We don't know yet whether he can, but he might. And if he fails, at least we can go back to the open market any time we want. If we offer Walker what he wants, a higher pay packet and longer contract, we may not be able to. It will be too late.

 

[Renegade]

I wonder if you could play walker at hooker, Craig wing style...

 

[Super Freak]

In fact, haven't the Souths shunted him back out of the halves in favour of sutton?We have five-eighths - we don't need to buy more.

They moved him to fullback because Johnston was useless there.

They wanted to spark their attack and Johnston was constantly killing backline movements.

 

[_noosh]

They moved him to fullback because Johnston was useless there.

They wanted to spark their attack and Johnston was constantly killing backline movements.

Yeah, I've heard that. But if he really was their best player when he was playing at five-eighth and so invaluable, surely you'd be pretty against moving him away from that role. Surely you don't just move your best player away from his position because someone else is not performing.
They clearly thought that they wouldn't lose too much if they moved him away from the halves.

Not saying you're wrong, but would we consider moving milf away from the halves if Boyd got injured? I'd reckon we would only do so if we weren't convinced Cody/milf was a long-term half solution.

I think Cody is a really good utility. As a pure half, he doesn't provide anything that we need so we certainly shouldn't buy him as one.

 

[Unbreakable]

Yeah, I've heard that. But if he really was their best player when he was playing at five-eighth and so invaluable, surely you'd be pretty against moving him away from that role. Surely you don't just move your best player away from his position because someone else is not performing.

It honestly seems like you're just guessing at this point. He has been their best player this season, they moved him out of necessity, Inglis is injured and Johnston is trash, luckily enough for them Walker plays well no matter what position they put him in.

I noticed you haven't responded to any of my claims that you haven't watched enough of his games, have you watched a single Rabbitohs game this year? Because by the way you're speaking, it honestly seems like you're just making educated guesses, or using random opinions from the internet, have you considered forming your own?

I think Cody is a really good utility.

I thought he was super inconsistent and unstable.. Or is that only your thoughts when we're discussing him in the halves?

 

[_noosh]

I've watched a few, but not most, so maybe you do have a point. To be fair, my point about moving him out of the halves means he's not performing as well as you're claiming is weak. I do understand that the Souths as a whole may be strengthened if he moved back to fullback so I'll concede that.

I've never denied Cody is a good player. I've never denied that he's better than Kodi. I deny that he's a better player than milf (regardless of stats). I'm just still not convinced he provides what we need and certainly don't want to commit to it (which is what we will if we buy him. We can't do a give backsies). And from what I've seen, albeit limited as you've pointed out, he hasn't shown the skillset or consistency in the role that we would play him. Buying him is a big gamble. I'd rather not gamble anymore on a bought player considering we're already doing that on Bird. We can afford to gamble on Kodi as that involves no further commitment considering our circumstances.

In regards to his consistency, I was discussing that when considering him as a pure half. He's been brilliant at times, but also deadset average imo. He provides some much-needed spark in a pretty lacklustre Souths attack which is probably why he looks so good looking from the outside-in. Maybe he has had to try too hard to lift for his teammates, but I still don't think he's what we need. As a utility, he is damn good, but we're not trying to buy him as a utility anymore, and we wouldn't be paying him as such.

Either way, let's agree to disagree for now. I'll make it a point to catch the next Souths games so I can make a better-informed decision. Keeping an open-mind of course. End of the day, we just wants best for our Broncos :)

 

[Smokin' Joe]

Cody Walker is just an out and out footballer.
I would put him as possibly the best half in the comp at creating and delivering space to his runners. He takes the line on almost every touch and creates space, almost Thurston like.
It actually amazes me that it's taken so long for him to reach NRL. He was untouchable in the Q Cup for a number of years.

I would take him. But I can't see it happening.