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rnabokov

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Those two really are at opposite ends of the second row spectrum. Fifita is incredible at unstructured running and breaking the line without any sort of run-up, whereas Riki runs his structured lines fast and hard every time.

Last night showed how easy it is to shut down Fifita and how hard it is to stop Riki.

Side note, last night when Maori where down to 12 men Riki ran across to the opposite side of the field to help make a tackle, then ran back to his spot the next play. He seems like a good team player.

I just do not see this "spectrum" of second row play that you describe. I do agree with the ringing endorsement of Riki however I am unsure about the accuracy of your assessment of Fifita. As I see it, Fifita is indeed great at as you termed it, "unstructured running" but for mine, that is more a function of the Broncos shitty rabble of a game plan than some intrinsic property of Fifita's playing style. We "threw it to Fifita" because our game plan allowed no planned, structured options to allow line running say, of the sort you attributed to Riki. What Fifita did when playing for us was simply all that he was allowed to do by our game plan, or rather, the total lack of any coherent one, designed to maximise strengths and opportunities.

I am sure that Holbrook will have Fifita running very structured lines based on a very different game plan to what we had when Fifita played for us. I reckon to underestimate both Fifita and how Holbrook intends to deploy him is a big mistake. I have already read that Holbrook is developing combinations between Fifita and Fogarty as a sign of things to come.
 
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The positive in losing Fifita and Sua is that the production line of second-rowers continues to (seemingly at least) be pretty strong. Lose Fifita, Gillett and Su'A and replace with Riki and Piakura, that is pretty solid. No I am not saying either of these kids are currently even remotely close to being as good as Fifita and Su'A are or will be but they both look extremely promising. Riki seems to have hit the NRL ground running. Piakura still very much an unknown.

Lose Arrow and McGuire and have Carrigan and Bullemor coming through. The forward production line at the Broncos continues to be strong at least.
 
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The positive in losing Fifita and Sua is that the production line of second-rowers continues to (seemingly at least) be pretty strong. Lose Fifita, Gillett and Su'A and replace with Riki and Piakura, that is pretty solid. No I am not saying either of these kids are currently even remotely close to being as good as Fifita and Su'A are or will be but they both look extremely promising. Riki seems to have hit the NRL ground running. Piakura still very much an unknown.

Lose Arrow and McGuire and have Carrigan and Bullemor coming through. The forward production line at the Broncos continues to be strong at least.

Must just fill the whole organisation with pride knowing they are the 'nice guys' of the NRL, so generously spending all their time developing this elite talent for the benefit of the rest of the competition. So glad that we can help everyone out so much by bringing these young superstars through the ranks so they can move on to other clubs, gives you a warm, fuzzy feeling inside :)
 
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Must just fill the whole organisation with pride knowing they are the 'nice guys' of the NRL, so generously spending all their time developing this elite talent for the benefit of the rest of the competition. So glad that we can help everyone out so much by bringing these young superstars through the ranks so they can move on to other clubs, gives you a warm, fuzzy feeling inside :)

This is the positivity thread mate.
 

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I just do not see this "spectrum" of second row play that you describe. I do agree with the ringing endorsement of Riki however I am unsure about the accuracy of your assessment of Fifita. As I see it, Fifita is indeed great at as you termed it, "unstructured running" but for mine, that is more a function of the Broncos shitty rabble of a game plan than some intrinsic property of Fifita's playing style. We "threw it to Fifita" because our game plan allowed no planned, structured options to allow line running say, of the sort you attributed to Riki. What Fifita did when playing for us was simply all that he was allowed to do by our game plan, or rather, the total lack of any coherent one, designed to maximise strengths and opportunities.

I am sure that Holbrook will have Fifita running very structured lines based on a very different game plan to what we had when Fifita played for us. I reckon to underestimate both Fifita and how Holbrook intends to deploy him is a big mistake. I have already read that Holbrook is developing combinations between Fifita and Fogarty as a sign of things to come.
I have to Agree, I think Fifita can only get better unless teams develop strategies to neutralize him. At the moment from stop starts and running sideways he can break the line quite easily which is scary. but I Don't see him being a consistent player even with a new team and new structures. I think Riki will be solid in defence and he's already proven his line running ability and power, His game on Saturday was fantastic and he'd surely be a starter come round 1.
 
Piakura is still a ways off I think, maybe gets a Q Cup stint but won't be in the NRL for a year or two. Riki is Gillett but twice the size so that's something to be excited about, runs great lines and defends his heart out.

We have Glenn and Oates there too so they'll have to prove something if the want to hold their spots. Riki and TPJ could be our most damaging SR combination.
 

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Chill for a moment, and have a think about it. All clubs do it, including us (and always have). In recent history we signed Milford from Canberra, Bird from Cronulla. TPJ from Canberra, Croft from Melbourne, Arthars from Titans etc

My comment was mostly playful sarcasm... I understand it's not just us.. but we certainly seem to focus more resources than anyone on our junior development only to see very few benefits from it.

Signing players from other clubs is normal, but Milford was not a Canberra junior, Bird was a St George junior, not Cronulla and I'm unsure about TPJ / Croft / Arthars but I don't think any of them actually came up through the junior ranks at the clubs we signed them from.
 

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Chill for a moment, and have a think about it. All clubs do it, including us (and always have). In recent history we signed Milford from Canberra, Bird from Cronulla. TPJ from Canberra, Croft from Melbourne, Arthars from Titans etc
You’re right, we need to get better at choosing who we steal
 

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Must just fill the whole organisation with pride knowing they are the 'nice guys' of the NRL, so generously spending all their time developing this elite talent for the benefit of the rest of the competition. So glad that we can help everyone out so much by bringing these young superstars through the ranks so they can move on to other clubs, gives you a warm, fuzzy feeling inside :)
They would have stayed if we had a competent coach and were winning.

Unfortunately the complete opposite happened, and they left a burning ship with a broken hull.
 

theshed

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Based on the team list names for this Saturday I’m starting to feel confident. At full strength this is a top 8 team with a lucky run of injuries and some good coaching.


1. Jamayne Isaako
2. David Mead
3. Herbie Farnworth
4. Tesi Niu (Staggs)
5. Xavior Coates
6. Anthony Milford
7. Tom Dearden
8. Patrick Carrigan
9. Jake Turpin
10. Matt Lodge
11. Alex Glenn
12. Jordan Riki
13. Tevita Pangai Jnr
14. John Asiata
15. Thomas Flegler
16. Corey Oates
17. Payne Haas

Sure it isn’t the roosters or the storm on paper but the roster is as good as teams like the knights, warriors, Cronulla, tigers, Manly, cowboys, dragons.



I really think this team is I’ll finish 10th at the very lowest unless injuries completely destroy us. The forward pack alone, if used properly is really strong.
 
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kooly87

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Based on the team list names for this Saturday I’m starting to feel confident. At full strength this is a top 8 team with a lucky run of injuries and some good coaching.


1. Jamayne Isaako
2. David Mead
3. Herbie Farnworth
4. Tesi Niu (Staggs)
5. Xavior Coates
6. Anthony Milford
7. Tom Dearden
8. Patrick Carrigan
9. Jake Turpin
10. Matt Lodge
11. Alex Glenn
12. Jordan Riki
13. Tevita Pangai Jnr
14. John Asiata
15. Thomas Flegler
16. Corey Oates
17. Payne Haas

Sure it isn’t the roosters or the storm on paper but the roster is as good as teams like the knights, warriors, Cronulla, tigers, Manly, cowboys, dragons.



I really think this team is I’ll finish 10th at the very lowest unless injuries completely destroy us. The forward pack alone, if used properly is really strong.
Injuries are already going against us. I think it would be very optimistic indeed to assume that wont be the case again this year.
 

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Based on the team list names for this Saturday I’m starting to feel confident. At full strength this is a top 8 team with a lucky run of injuries and some good coaching.
If Turpin can't make 80 minutes, who would you have missing out for Paix or whoever is backup hooker?
 

kooly87

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If Turpin can't make 80 minutes, who would you have missing out for Paix or whoever is backup hooker?
We don't need both Te'o and Oates. Bullemor would probably offer more than both, but even he probably misses out so we can carry a Bench Dummy Half.
 

theshed

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If Turpin can't make 80 minutes, who would you have missing out for Paix or whoever is backup hooker?
The worlds biggest headache. I imagine injuries and suspension will make the question mostly moot.

Really it comes down to who performs the poorest out of Riki, Oates, Asiata, and Glenn.

Gun to my head the team was full strength round 1 and bench hooker was a must, I’d probably drop Oates just to make him prove himself as a second rower in ressies. If he is tearing it up after a game or two and no one is injured or suspended, he would push out the biggest struggler.

Gets even more complicated if Bullimor is kicking the door in.
 
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