Broncos Roster, Signings and Rumours Discussion 2021

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He 100% could well be, I have been plugging for him all year, his improvement has been substantial and I made the point months ago he has improved Souths. If you go to a game it is obvious when Paix is off/on the field.

His presence and his body shape has changed. He's a hooker now.

But he's now doing not much and hasn't played since round nine- five weeks ago so the pressure on Turpin has subsided. Very hard now for him to get a run.

I would have loved for him to get a run after the Jets game, he was great.
I would throw Paix into the 9 for the rest of this year. What's the point in wondering until next season if he can handle it? Let's find out now!
 
He 100% could well be, I have been plugging for him all year, his improvement has been substantial and I made the point months ago he has improved Souths. If you go to a game it is obvious when Paix is off/on the field.

His presence and his body shape has changed. He's a hooker now.

But he's now doing not much and hasn't played since round nine- five weeks ago so the pressure on Turpin has subsided. Very hard now for him to get a run.

I would have loved for him to get a run after the Jets game, he was great.
Thanks for the heads up. Watch this space in the future then!
 
He 100% could well be, I have been plugging for him all year, his improvement has been substantial and I made the point months ago he has improved Souths. If you go to a game it is obvious when Paix is off/on the field.

His presence and his body shape has changed. He's a hooker now.

But he's now doing not much and hasn't played since round nine- five weeks ago so the pressure on Turpin has subsided. Very hard now for him to get a run.

I would have loved for him to get a run after the Jets game, he was great.
Our mate Dobbo said Paix will be in the 17 this week.
Im happy for him to come in off the bench for Turpin, the competition would be nice.
 

Dobbo reporting that Coates is out of favour (Issako and Oates will be there next yr) so we might not see Coates play for the remainder of the yr.

Also said TPJ to Panthers ( but looks like thats not happening), Milford to Eels
 
The panthers got the money because Cleary got injured in origin. Honestly worked out very well for them. Gives him a month or so off to freshen up and gives them $300k in the cap
I think that clause only comes into effect when the injury is season ending, which cleary's is not. Penrith have also come out and said it is crap.
 
I think that clause only comes unto effect when the injury is season ending, which cleary's is not. Penrith have also come out and said it is crap.
Nah it’s any long term injury (4+ weeks) from a rep game. But it’s not where the money came from, as they can only be used on a like for like player. That is, they could get Milford as he is a half, but not TPJ.
 
The panthers got the money because Cleary got injured in origin. Honestly worked out very well for them. Gives him a month or so off to freshen up and gives them $300k in the cap

You only get compensated if the player miss min 12 games injured in a rep game and it has to be a like for like- Cleary for TPJ is not like for like.
 
You only get compensated if the player miss min 12 games injured in a rep game and it has to be a like for like- Cleary for TPJ is not like for like.
Penrith are up shit creek then as they are no chance of finding another bloke with a chin that big.

Only chance is if they can try and entice Tate out of retirement, but even then, Cleary still has him covered by an inch or so you’d think.
 
How do you know it’s chump change?

You know they would only pay for the remaining salary owed right? This is not a 600+k commitment
By chump change we can work out his remaining salary based on time in the year... we're 3/4 through the year so on TPJ's reported salary of $650k he'd have $163k owing.

So you're basically getting TPJ for the price of Kennar

I probably worded it wrong, but I guess I'm suggesting that that kind of scenario is not "in the spirit of the salary cap", which is a wishy washy term, but in this case they would be acquiring a top tier player on very little salary right before the finals series.

Based on the current rules it may be viable (if Panthers have room in their cap), but to me that means the current rules are setup wrong.

It opens up a huge can of worms and a loophole that can completely turn the comp on its head 3/4 of the way through the year.. and I dont think the rules were intending this kind of situation.

From the outside looking in it would appear the salary cap is setup so teams can accumulate $9.5M over the course of the year, this means $160k at the start of the year increases in value as the season progresses... to the point where $160k can equal $650k.

To me a suitable alternative could simply be dividing the salary cap over 12 months... so every team has $790k to spend each month on salaries.

In that scenario the $160k saved at the start of the year remains the same over the course of the year (~$13k per month).. so the clubs have to either use it or lose it as the season progresses.
 
He 100% could well be, I have been plugging for him all year, his improvement has been substantial and I made the point months ago he has improved Souths. If you go to a game it is obvious when Paix is off/on the field.

His presence and his body shape has changed. He's a hooker now.

But he's now doing not much and hasn't played since round nine- five weeks ago so the pressure on Turpin has subsided. Very hard now for him to get a run.

I would have loved for him to get a run after the Jets game, he was great.
Will NRL players be able to go back to qcup soon or are they stuck in the bubble until it's lifted??
 
I haven't been told yet but I suspect they won't be back and will be stuck in the bubble.
You would think they have the squads in the bubble for 2 weeks and if everything is ok then lift the bubble (given the comp is in qld).

Let the Sydney teams play scratch matches from that point on.

The whole point of moving the comp was to get it away from a hot spot to keep the comp going... they've done the first part so now they need to sort out how to keep the comp rolling including the reserves
 
By chump change we can work out his remaining salary based on time in the year... we're 3/4 through the year so on TPJ's reported salary of $650k he'd have $163k owing.

So you're basically getting TPJ for the price of Kennar

I probably worded it wrong, but I guess I'm suggesting that that kind of scenario is not "in the spirit of the salary cap", which is a wishy washy term, but in this case they would be acquiring a top tier player on very little salary right before the finals series.

Based on the current rules it may be viable (if Panthers have room in their cap), but to me that means the current rules are setup wrong.

It opens up a huge can of worms and a loophole that can completely turn the comp on its head 3/4 of the way through the year.. and I dont think the rules were intending this kind of situation.

From the outside looking in it would appear the salary cap is setup so teams can accumulate $9.5M over the course of the year, this means $160k at the start of the year increases in value as the season progresses... to the point where $160k can equal $650k.

To me a suitable alternative could simply be dividing the salary cap over 12 months... so every team has $790k to spend each month on salaries.

In that scenario the $160k saved at the start of the year remains the same over the course of the year (~$13k per month).. so the clubs have to either use it or lose it as the season progresses.
I see your point now, i thought you were suggesting that the Panthers were not going to pay the pro rata contract. You are arguing that ~200k for TPJ for 6 or so weeks is the same as paying Kennar for the whole season but 1 is a lot more useful.

I just think the NRL have done the right thing here. Broncos want TPJ gone yesterday, TPJ finds an interested Panthers, NRL asks Panthers to pay the full pro rata amount of TPJ salary, Panthers say they cant afford that, NRL say no deal then.

I get the loophole argument but i just cant see teams planning to purposefully not spend 500k or so of salary cap on the hope that they can still compete in the top 4 and also find a team and player good enough and willing enough to come join them for the last few rounds of the season.

Simple solution is to bring the player transfer date back to July 1 or even earlier.
 
I see your point now, i thought you were suggesting that the Panthers were not going to pay the pro rata contract. You are arguing that ~200k for TPJ for 6 or so weeks is the same as paying Kennar for the whole season but 1 is a lot more useful.

I just think the NRL have done the right thing here. Broncos want TPJ gone yesterday, TPJ finds an interested Panthers, NRL asks Panthers to pay the full pro rata amount of TPJ salary, Panthers say they cant afford that, NRL say no deal then.

I get the loophole argument but i just cant see teams planning to purposefully not spend 500k or so of salary cap on the hope that they can still compete in the top 4 and also find a team and player good enough and willing enough to come join them for the last few rounds of the season.

Simple solution is to bring the player transfer date back to July 1 or even earlier.
I don't necessarily have an issue with players wanting to move on and club's horse trading throughout the year (it's basically player trades but not calling it that)... I would prefer free agency be left to a window at the end of the year though.

But what this scenario has shown, on top of the SBW situation, is that the current accumulation model of the salary cap is inherently wrong and must be reviewed and adjusted so spending of the salary cap properly aligns with pro rata of a player's salary... at the moment they are operating under two different models.

I do think club's would definitely hold onto $200k or so on the 30th player just in case a player pops up on the market... $200k is a depth player normally, but under the current rules it can turn into a top 17 player quite quickly.

I think they are intending to bring the deadline back to June 30, and it was only moved out to August due to covid last year and the comp running on longer, however I dont think it was ever necessary, given this year's comp is scheduled to finish at the nominated time.
 
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