Broncos Roster, Signings and Rumours Discussion 2023

[Sproj]

Read and Badel are very different reporters.

Read is good for opinion pieces: whether you agree with his opinion or not. For instance, he wrote a long piece on why the club had to sack Payne last year. Never happened, I didn't agree with it, but it was well reasoned. His record on gossip is lean, and not so hot. I don't think he bothered to dig into the Herbie story.

Badel rarely injects opinion. He's just not that interesting. He can lean into some bias, sure, but mostly his stuff is trying to milk something newsworthy out of the soul-destroying press conferences the Broncos trot out. Both parties look like they're only doing it out of obligation. Badel files his piece - which is rarely worth reading - and the subs try to spin some excitement out of it. Readers get confused that the story is oversold by the headline and blame Badel. Rinse and repeat.

We're really only interested in Broncos gossip, which by its nature is unreliable. The club spins against the reporters who are spinning against their spinning. I've found Badel to be usually directionaly accurate, but rarely precise. The more confident he is the more likely it pans out. He came across as very confident in that Herbie piece but it was definitely presented as not to be banked quite yet. That's fine, we treated it as a rumour. I'm not writing him off yet.

Dobbo, on the other hand: take no notice of how confident he is. He's always got the inside word. And it's quite often wrong. Entertainment value only.

I appreciate you taking the time to write all of that but for me (and I am not speaking for anyone else), I couldn't care less about any gossip, hence the reason I often speak up when an article gets put on here and a number of posters get excited but there is not one quote from anyone / anyone of note in there, it is misleading and therefore, in my opinion, it should be called out, regardless of who the reporter is.

We've been over all of this and so I'm not saying this to start it all again. You work from a position of respect for Badel and likely, some others too. I work from the position that basically all of them are rubbish sensationalists, therefore our views will never align on this, there is no point for us to try and convince each other of our opposing views, we won't agree. I do not want gossip columns to masquerade as news but I appreciate several other posters feel differently and while I don't agree, I respect their right to have a different view. So I am trying to take a new approach of trying not to call out what I view as rubbish all the time so as to not derail every thread because of it when a baseless / rumour-filled article is reported.

All I will try and stick to now is to just call out a measure to excitement / despair when a baseless article comes out if freaking out occurs.

 

[McHunt]

I appreciate you taking the time to write all of that but for me (and I am not speaking for anyone else), I couldn't care less about any gossip, hence the reason I often speak up when an article gets put on here and a number of posters get excited but there is not one quote from anyone / anyone of note in there, it is misleading and therefore, in my opinion, it should be called out, regardless of who the reporter is.

We've been over all of this and so I'm not saying this to start it all again. You work from a position of respect for Badel and likely, some others too. I work from the position that basically all of them are rubbish sensationalists, therefore our views will never align on this, there is no point for us to try and convince each other of our opposing views, we won't agree. I do not want gossip columns to masquerade as news but I appreciate several other posters feel differently and while I don't agree, I respect their right to have a different view. So I am trying to take a new approach of trying not to call out what I view as rubbish all the time so as to not derail every thread because of it when a baseless / rumour-filled article is reported.

All I will try and stick to now is to just call out a measure to excitement / despair when a baseless article comes out if freaking out occurs.

This is a rumours thread. It is purely about gossip. If you want announcements, this is not the thread. I suggest if you don't enjoy the fun of what is speculation you avoid this thread.

 

[Sproj]

This is a rumours thread. It is purely about gossip. If you want announcements, this is not the thread. I suggest if you don't enjoy the fun of what is speculation you avoid this thread.

Yeah my man, I know and feel free to keep posting rumours, nothing against it as I said.

 

[Blindside Bronco]

 

[McHunt]

Yeah my man, I know and feel free to keep posting rumours, nothing against it as I said.

Honestly, I think you should stay out of this thread. You seem to be coming at the press because it's not literal, like an almanac for light readers.

That precept is so far removed from what the media is, has ever been, alludes to be, it's ludicrous to keep complaining about it. The media has always been about gossip, and the progression of a story from hearsay into history.

Stick to the club announcements. They contain everything you need.

 

[BroncosFever]

Seibs must really really rate Flegler, pretty sure he was the one he put him on a lucrative deal initially and now by all reports he's at it again

 

[Mr Fourex]

Yeah my man, I know and feel free to keep posting rumours, nothing against it as I said.

Pssst........don't let him bully you.

The media and all the media wannabes have to be watched carefully and be held accountable
ALL THE MOTHER FUCKEN TIME.......

Give them an inch and they will rob us blind........

 

[Sproj]

Honestly, I think you should stay out of this thread. You seem to be coming at the press because it's not literal, like an almanac for light readers.

That precept is so far removed from what the media is, has ever been, alludes to be, it's ludicrous to keep complaining about it. The media has always been about gossip, and the progression of a story from hearsay into history.

Stick to the club announcements. They contain everything you need.

Pssst........don't let him bully you.

The media and all the media wannabes have to be watched carefully and be held accountable
ALL THE MOTHER FUCKEN TIME.......

Give them an inch and they will rob us blind........

Oh I'm not letting him bully me, I just don't want to go on these circular arguments in every thread again.

Also, McHunt has a fatal flaw in this last post above anyway, he assumes I care about his opinion and will listen to what he says.

 

[McHunt]

Oh I'm not letting him bully me, I just don't want to go on these circular arguments in every thread again.

Also, McHunt has a fatal flaw in this last post above anyway, he assumes I care about his opinion and will listen to what he says.

No, I'm just wondering why you loiter all day in a gossip thread if your brain explodes trying to process uncertainty and opinion rather than announcements.

 

[McHunt]

Pssst........don't let him bully you.

The media and all the media wannabes have to be watched carefully and be held accountable
ALL THE MOTHER FUCKEN TIME.......

Give them an inch and they will rob us blind........

Well I'm the one who's been documenting the rumours with the source and holding them accountable.

You shouldn't believe what you read in newspapers - ever - but it wouldn't hurt a few folk in here to up their media literacy and pay attention to the level of certainty in stories, and the tone of the publication.

All I've been trying to do is convert a few cynics into skeptics. Presuming that everything a journalist says will be wrong is the low IQ take. Questioning everything they say is the upgrade.

 

[Cult]

Such a weird way of saying the media are vague enough that they’re able to say “things change” when they’re wrong.

You don’t have better comprehension than anyone else here. We all understand what they do and why they do it. You’re just the only one who defends these leaches because you want to be them.

 

[Foordy]

Seibs must really really rate Flegler, pretty sure he was the one he put him on a lucrative deal initially and now by all reports he's at it again

that Manly figure for Flegs, was reported way before Seibs had anything to do with Manly

 

[I bleed Maroon]

Official quote from The: "We are not here to cannibalize the existing Qld teams"

Yeah seems legit

> Proceeds to cannibalize existing QLD teams

 

[Mr Fourex]

> Proceeds to cannibalize existing QLD teams

To be fair...a lot of the players they've gone after have started their RL careers playing for Redcliffe.

 

[McHunt]

Such a weird way of saying the media are vague enough that they’re able to say “things change” when they’re wrong.

You don’t have better comprehension than anyone else here. We all understand what they do and why they do it. You’re just the only one who defends these leaches because you want to be them.

If that's what you comprehend, your comprehension isn't so flash.

 

[simplythebest]

Random question, but how is this thread different to the link below?

2023 Official Roster (and Rumour) Tracker

Note: this isn't a rumour thread; it's for keeping track of the official roster and holding rumours accountable. Discuss rumours in the official Rumours thread: https://broncoshq.com/threads/broncos-roster-signings-and-rumours-discussion-2023.44658/page-268#post-3524595 COMPLAIN TO @McHunt...

broncoshq.com

 

[Foordy]

Random question, but how is this thread different to the link below?

2023 Official Roster (and Rumour) Tracker

Note: this isn't a rumour thread; it's for keeping track of the official roster and holding rumours accountable. Discuss rumours in the official Rumours thread: https://broncoshq.com/threads/broncos-roster-signings-and-rumours-discussion-2023.44658/page-268#post-3524595 COMPLAIN TO @McHunt...

broncoshq.com

I can view this thread.

can't see the other one

 

[McHunt]

Random question, but how is this thread different to the link below?

2023 Official Roster (and Rumour) Tracker

Note: this isn't a rumour thread; it's for keeping track of the official roster and holding rumours accountable. Discuss rumours in the official Rumours thread: https://broncoshq.com/threads/broncos-roster-signings-and-rumours-discussion-2023.44658/page-268#post-3524595 COMPLAIN TO @McHunt...

broncoshq.com

This is the rumours thread. It's all gossip. Nothing in it is to be taken seriously.

The other is a tracker of our roster, the years top 30 players are contracted, their ethnicity/rep status, the players we have in each position, train & trial and development lists, and QCup affiliations (not yet). There's also a short tracker of sourced rumours from the Rumours threaad and how they're panning out. I cull them after a month or two. Everything other than the rumours in the Roster thread is verified by the club or player agent.

In short, this is the thread to discuss rumours from whatever source, the Roster thread is to discuss contracts and news that might affect the playing roster. It's not really the place to discuss rumours unless they've been converted into announcements.

I put rumours into the tracker because a lot of folk were mouthing off about journalists making shit up. I thought it might be interesting to hold the journalists accountable.