Buying the Broncos

[noisetheory]

Do you really think we would be in this position if we had Thurston? I believe that if you added 1 player to this team, a good half such as Thurston we would win the comp.

so because WE don't have THE BEST PLAYER in the comp, there is a major problem? hmm

you're acting like last year was a disaster. we made the 8. we went very close to beating both melbourne and the doggies leading into the finals, and a win or two there would of turned the confidence in the team around. unfortunately we couldnt get over hte line. we also had a large number of key players struggling through injuries. far worse than most other sides had it. thats not an excuse but it certainly doesnt help.

 

[Bronco bob]

so because WE don't have THE BEST PLAYER in the comp, there is a major problem? hmm

you're acting like last year was a disaster. we made the 8. we went very close to beating both melbourne and the doggies leading into the finals, and a win or two there would of turned the confidence in the team around. unfortunately we couldnt get over hte line. we also had a large number of key players struggling through injuries. far worse than most other sides had it. thats not an excuse but it certainly doesnt help.

Where does it say that because we don't have Thurston we have a major problem noisetheory? Not sure we're you got that from. I simple said that if we had a player like Thurston we could win the comp, it was a complement to the team. It shows that we are so close to be a great team yet so far. Also another point I was making is I do think its a problem that we aren't chasing Thurston, we are just missing one quality half to steer us around. We have a short window with this current playing group and we need to take advantage of it by getting a quality half.

Also please explain to me how a controlled members forum would be any different to a post match press conference? They ask some pretty tough questions

 

[Kimlo]

I support you on this Broncos Bob. If that's a dream of yours then pursue it with everything you have mate!
I agree with the notion of your ideas but I think it's best you run these kind of things past the headcoach first, if the coach agrees then why not go ahead.

As an owner you would absolutely question key playing decisions, you are the owner afterall. This would happen at every single club except it's probably not played out publicly.

I think a members forum is an ok idea but the execution would need some good thought as it has the potential to be a very bad idea.

 

[Bronco bob]

I support you on this Broncos Bob. If that's a dream of yours then pursue it with everything you have mate!
I agree with the notion of your ideas but I think it's best you run these kind of things past the headcoach first, if the coach agrees then why not go ahead.

As an owner you would absolutely question key playing decisions, you are the owner afterall. This would happen at every single club except it's probably not played out publicly.

I think a members forum is an ok idea but the execution would need some good thought as it has the potential to be a very bad idea.

Thank you broncospwn I appreciate it.

Yes I know for a fact that owners around the world have some control over the team, as you said it just isn't publicized. I think the people disagreeing with this are just being naive. I just wanted to be transparent with you all and say that I would have some input if this comes off.

Yes the members forum idea was simply just that and idea. As I said I believe it would work if it was completely controlled and members questions were screened first Etc.

 

[Crazy Sam]

I would make the players sit in front of a room of all members and fans and let them ask questions and let the players see how much we all love the team and how much we bleed when they loose. It will only help the players take more accountability for the way they play. Let Hoffman stand in front of his die hard members and say I didn't try hard enough and see our reactions. I would get the coach to explain what he was doing and he thoughts on how the year ended. Not just some CM articles and answer a few questions on the members forum.

That is easily the worst idea I have ever read on these forums.

Fans don't know how to run a footy team. Don't confuse passion and support of a team for knowledge of rugby league.

Please, don't buy the Broncos.

 

[Kimlo]

I agree completely. I have no doubt in my mind that the current CEO questions Griffins decisions from time to time and Griffin just explains what's going on. They would take on a regular basis and these kind of questions would come up, it would just never be public.

Having the questions screened is fine. I don't see a problem with it but I think it's something the players would have to agree to rather than be forced to, have a vote with the players if they ok'd the idea you'd go ahead and do it. With a salary cap competition player morale and the attraction of the club and coach are the key factors because you can't just buy the best players, you have an essentially equal level of money you can offer and need those other factors to get you over the line in a signing deal.

 

[Mr Fourex]

There are always things that could be improved Mr Fourex. Why settle with being the best run club in the game,
why not be even better? Other clubs are catching us. We don't even have the biggest membership base and we are a 1 town team and are only 2nd to Melbourne with the biggest demographic and Melbourne is an AFL city. I will put us so far past the rest of the comp that other players will want to come to the club again.

and how are you going to do this exactly ......?

I have bought some of the best run companies in the world, improved them and sold them or IPO'ed them for a profit.

As I suspected .......the Brisbane Broncos will be an acquisition for you to play with and then sell on.

Thanks but no thanks....

p.s Who are you, Richard Branson?

Personally, I think you're a piss take.

 

[Kimlo]

If he comes in makes the Broncos even better and move on then I wouldn't be complaining.

 

[Coxy]

Mr Fourex, compared to what we have now? News Limited holding us as a political tool while they publicly back away from investment in rugby league but then hang on to its most valuable asset? The Broncos club has been a pawn in the News Ltd-ARL war for nearly 20 years now. And honestly I don't think there's a lot of positives about it.

 

[Bronco bob]

and how are you going to do this exactly ......?


As I suspected .......the Brisbane Broncos will be an acquisition for you to play with and then sell on.

Thanks but no thanks....

p.s Who are you, Richard Branson?

Personally, I think you're a **** take.

I overestimated your intelligence Mr Fourex, obviously I would need to do my analysis once within the organization before I can give you exacts. Also you obviously didn't read the previous posts properly, this is my dream and I have already stated that I am not doing this to make a profit. I also have said that if my plans don't work I would take a step back and put the best managers in place.

Lucky I don't need your approval to complete this mr Fourex

 

[Porthoz]

Do you really think we would be in this position if we had Thurston? I believe that if you added 1 player to this team, a good half such as Thurston we would win the comp.

I disagree with you with regards to the player forum but that your opinion. Everyone should take accountability for there actions. I wouldn't do it if we had a good year, only if we missed the 8 or had a year like last year. The forum wouldn't be a mud slinging match, it would be a healthy discussion on how the club was moving forward. It would be no different to the post match press conference, replace the reporters with with paying members. Do you agree Coxy?

Look like I said this is a few years away. The point of me doing this on this forum was to get your ideas and get feedback on my ideas. I'm not saying that I would definitely hold a forum but once I'm within the organization and maybe one year believed it would help them, why not?

I honestly do not know of a sports club in any code that has been able to do this in a successful manner.
It would certainly be worse if you only did this when the results weren't as good as expected or wished for. Like someone else said, this wouldn't make the club attractive to play for, on the contrary it would make people want to leave.

At the most, I could see a yearly informal forum where players, coaches, stake holders and selected members would hold a mediatised interactive conference, either through Broncos TV or another medium, for all members to watch and pose valid questions. There would have to be some form of moderation that would allow the tough questions to be asked, without the whole thing turning into an inquisition where players and coaches are being grilled by fans, whom more often than not, have little understanding of high performance sports!

Like you, if I was really rich enough to permit me to "waste" millions of dollars, I would too try to buy a controlling interest in the clubs I love, starting with the Broncos of course.

I could see myself demading answers from CEO, Manager and Coach, as well as possibly pushing an agenda such as a more active recruitment policy and even push for a particular player I really would love to see at the club, case in point: Jonathan Thurston.

What I would do is a comprehensive study about what the fans and members regard as most important for the club, add my personal feeling and desires, and then put together a plan to achieve it.
I would head hunt the best in the business and get them to manage, develop, scout and coach my club according to the outcome of that study. But in return of giving them the best tools and people to do their job, I would also make sure they understand they will be accountable for achieving KPI's put to them, understanding of course that while you cannot guarantee a premiership, you have to mantain a high standard of performance.

For example, if the result came back with the fans/members regarding results as the most important, regardless of (legal) methods, I would hound Bellamy until he signed, despite hating the prick with a passion. I would also hammer into his brain that I want spectacular football, because in the end, I want more than just winning, I want to enjoy watching the Broncos play as well.
What I certainly wouldn't do, is try to tell him how to do his job!

The problem is that there is something called the salary cap, which "equalises" the field, and prevents rich clubs from buying all the good players...

 

[Kaz]

The problem is that there is something called the salary cap, which "equalises" the field, and prevents rich clubs from buying all the good players.

That didn't stop the Storm. Oh wait, you said rich clubs.

 

[Mr Fourex]

I overestimated your intelligence Mr Fourex, obviously I would need to do my analysis once within the organization before I can give you exacts. Also you obviously didn't read the previous posts properly, this is my dream and I have already stated that I am not doing this to make a profit. I also have said that if my plans don't work I would take a step back and put the best managers in place.

Lucky I don't need your approval to complete this mr Fourex

Well isn't that what you're doing here ......asking for approval? Validation that you buying the Broncos, is good idea.

I'm interviewing you. I want the "exacts".....

Why should I agree to you buying my club.

All I've heard so far is grandiose plans with little to no substance. All I've heard so far is how you will make my club better because you're some whiz bang business tycoon.

All I've heard so far is you arrogantly suggesting that you have all the answers.

Tell us some........

 

[Bronco bob]

Well isn't that what you're doing here ......asking for approval? Validation that you buying the Broncos, is good idea.

I'm interviewing you. I want the "exacts".....

Why should I agree to you buying my club.

All I've heard so far is grandiose plans with little to no substance. All I've heard so far is how you will make my club better because you're some whiz bang business tycoon.

All I've heard so far is you arrogantly suggesting that you have all the answers.

Tell us some........

I have already answered this question, until I am inside the club it is impossible to know exacts. Do you think that when we choose to buy a company we know exactly what we will do before we have done our due diligence on it? Do you think that there is just a set blue print that will work for every company? The answer is no. I have made a living off knowing how to make a company better and more profitable and I don't even have any feeling for these companies. Do you think that it will not be the case with the broncos, the club that I love?

If you want some specifics then come on mr Fourex use your brain it is obvious isn't it. My skill set of making a company better. The millions of dollars that I can spend on the club. The connections I have throughout the Australian business community to bring on sponsership etc

 

[Bronco bob]

Well isn't that what you're doing here ......asking for approval? Validation that you buying the Broncos is good idea........

No I am not looking for approval or validation that it is a good idea. I already know its a good idea and as I already said I don't need your approval. I have also already stated why I am doing this but as I have already learnt, you don't read posts properly before you ask stupid questions or make your assumptions.

 

[Mr Fourex]

I have already answered this question, until I am inside the club it is impossible to know exacts. Do you think that when we choose to buy a company we know exactly what we will do before we have done our due diligence on it? Do you think that there is just a set blue print that will work for every company? The answer is no. I have made a living off knowing how to make a company better and more profitable and I don't even have any feeling for these companies. Do you think that it will not be the case with the broncos, the club that I love?

I see ....so you buy a company and THEN you do due diligence on it. Hmmmm interesting concept. No doubt this must be your secret weapon. :001_rolleyes:

If you want some specifics then come on mr Fourex use your brain it is obvious isn't it. My skill set of making a company better. The millions of dollars that I can spend on the club. The connections I have throughout the Australian business community to bring on sponsership etc

Are you serious.....? You expect that kind of lame empty "résumé" is going to pass .......:loool:

Oh yes, I see now it's as I suggested earlier. This a ruse

a discussion set to entertain us all.

Bravo........!!

 

[Mr Fourex]

I've had a change of heart Donald Trump .......if you promise to sack Peter Wallace, I'll join your bandwagon. :loool:

 

[Porthoz]

I've had a change of heart Donald Trump .......if you promise to sack Peter Wallace, I'll join your bandwagon. :loool:

This took longer than I thought... :laugh: