(Ex-) Cronulla players admitted drug cheats!

[Ari Gold]

How in the **** is his name being thrown around for immortal status in the first place?! I don't get it. Darren Lockyer needs to be an immortal before anybody fucking else.

Immortal kind of implies that he can't be touched.

If the "punishment" being handed out for his cheating is any indication, then it's true he can't be touched.

 

[1910]

It's not the NRL fault the bans are so low.

The NRL can't put their on bans on the players as it's ASADA baby.

Not true, ASADA don't ban anyone they make recommendations to governing bodies.

 

[Kaz]

Had a bit of a laugh last night on the sports show with James Bracey on Foxtel, Adam MacDougall was going on about the poor Cronulla players etc & a tweet come up saying, birds of a feather flock together. :laugh:

 

[Kimlo]

I'm honestly baffled. How can they backdate a ban when nothing has been served? How did the governing body get together and actually walk out thinking they've reached a fair and logical decision? This entire thing is a huge fucking joke.

 

[Huge]

It's disappointing that someone cannot hold a contrary position without copping abuse. I never thought the events at Cronulla were such a big deal and nothing the players have done has changed my opinion of them. Irrespective of which club it was I would feel the same. Whatever they took it appears to be only as a recovery device and not to gain an advantage although speedier recovery could well be argued to be an advantage. I won't be apologising for not going in anger spasms as some seem to on here. I would feel some anger though if I thought Cronulla had a programme like the East Germans or the Chinese and were building gorillas with steroids etc in order to cheat the system.

I'm looking forward to Saturday night and next season too and really don't care about ASADA , WADA or the NRL and their responses.

Just on Gallen, although I dislike him when he plays Origin I still think he is in the elite of rugby league players and don't attribute a single percentage point to any involvement he may have had with drugs as a reason for his ability to play the game. If this point of view upsets you I can understand that and I'm sorry you are upset but not sorry for believing as I believe.

 

[Kimlo]

It's disappointing that someone cannot hold a contrary position without copping abuse. I never thought the events at Cronulla were such a big deal and nothing the players have done has changed my opinion of them. Irrespective of which club it was I would feel the same. Whatever they took it appears to be only as a recovery device and not to gain an advantage although speedier recovery could well be argued to be an advantage. I won't be apologising for not going in anger spasms as some seem to on here. I would feel some anger though if I thought Cronulla had a programme like the East Germans or the Chinese and were building gorillas with steroids etc in order to cheat the system.

I'm looking forward to Saturday night and next season too and really don't care about ASADA , WADA or the NRL and their responses.

Just on Gallen, although I dislike him when he plays Origin I still think he is in the elite of rugby league players and don't attribute a single percentage point to any involvement he may have had with drugs as a reason for his ability to play the game. If this point of view upsets you I can understand that and I'm sorry you are upset but not sorry for believing as I believe.

Let's discuss this a little further, I'm going to go ahead and agree with you about the "crime" not being a major issue for the sake of a good discussion. In fact my main issue is that a ban can be back dated as time served when there has been no time served. I would've been happier if they just said we're suspending all involved for a month. How do you feel about this backdating of a suspension that hasn't actually been served? I don't think any legal system in the world works that way.

 

[Huge]

I tend to agree actually. I think that ASADA and the NRL have handled this clumsily and in fact it looks like that they had skinny evidence although they had some. It appears as though they are looking for a win,win,win...firstly for themselves, secondly for the players themselves and lastly for the NRL . In a few months it will just be ancient history and I believe ASADA want that to be the case yesterday. They hardly have covered themselves in glory, in fact they look inept.yes, very poor and backdating is/was a joke.

 

[Mr Fourex]

At least Rocky knew he was trolling! Bman honestly believes what he posts, which is really much worse.

I think the contrary. I think trolling has to be looked on as worse.

If he is sincere, why shouldn't he be allowed to speak his mind?

 

[Kimlo]

It's just been as you say, clumsily handled although I think the word is too kind. The press conference, darkest day in sport, dragging on for two years and all for... 3 weeks suspension? It really boggles my mind.

 

[Nashy]

Fallen went from being a player who was average at best, to being the best player in his position nearly over night a few years back.

That's one hell of a recovery session.

This is the absolute worst message to send to anyone. Not just kids, but any sports fan o. This planet.

This is an absolute joke.

Just stop for a second. Yes, they may have been harsh done by, it may not have been their fault. Blah blah blah. Now think.

Players who have admitted to being drug cheats in a professional sport, will serve a 3 game suspension, which is less than some tackles get, and the players will still be eligible to play the biggest game in the sport.

This is an absolute disgrace of the highest order.

They. Fucking. CHEATED.

 

[Mr Fourex]

It's just been as you say, clumsily handled although I think the word is too kind. The press conference, darkest day in sport, dragging on for two years and all for... 3 weeks suspension? It really boggles my mind.

Some blame the Gillard government for grandstanding on the issue.......

 

[Mr Fourex]

Fallen went from being a player who was average at best, to being the best player in his position nearly over night a few years back.

That's one hell of a recovery session.

Brian Smith hit it on the head when he described a "certain reserve grader, transformed into an international rep within a very short space of time" during the Gallen V Smith twitter war.

 

[Mr Fourex]

I may not have my years right, but was it 2011 that Gallen had a massive injury (calf or some leg injury) and somehow continued to play? I remember thinking, "how the hell has he recovered so quick to put in such big performances?

he was being described in the media as Super Gal ....super indeed !!

 

[Huge]

Well, getting upset is not going to make things change. Time to get over it and with regards to Gallen, he was drug tested after Origin every year just like the Queenslanders, if there were people on drugs we can safely assume they would have been caught. All the samples taken can be tested again and again. It really isn't going to make a difference. Time to look to the future.

 

[ningnangnong]

This whole thing is farcical.

The 'bans' handed down are unbelievable.

I don't know if I can continue to support and watch this game. It's becoming a joke.

 

[Nashy]

Well, getting upset is not going to make things change. Time to get over it and with regards to Gallen, he was drug tested after Origin every year just like the Queenslanders, if there were people on drugs we can safely assume they would have been caught. All the samples taken can be tested again and again. It really isn't going to make a difference. Time to look to the future.

Yeah, I am looking to the future. I don't see any NRL.

 

[Huge]

This whole thing is farcical.

The 'bans' handed down are unbelievable.

I don't know if I can continue to support and watch this game. It's becoming a joke.

Give yourself some time to get over it. Rugby league is simply the best full contact sport and the good in the game far outweighs the bad. Just picture the crowds ,the players the commentators during the Rise for Alex round to remind yourself just how much you'd miss if you walked away.

 

[Ari Gold]

I think the contrary. I think trolling has to be looked on as worse.

If he is sincere, why shouldn't he be allowed to speak his mind?

Personally I'm the other way. I can better tolerate someone who knows Andrew Johns had a drugs issue but trolls about it, rather than interact with someone who is so biased he genuinely believes that it never happened and was only ever a media beat up.