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On form I'd rather lose one of the others mentioned, but Glenn is off contract and we need to re-sign Fifita immediately. Plus I'm not really sure where Glenn fits in next year, Fifita and TPJ should be our starting second row forwards but Gillett is likely going to be hanging around. I reckon Carrigan will be prime to start at lock and play 60+ mins, he's a workhorse in the Arrow mold and is really coming good.
In a perfect world, I’d like Glenn to take Gillett’s spot, and for Gillett to get a hefty insurance payout. Glenn has much more to offer at this stage, as much as I I love Matty.
 

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Anyone other than a genuine halfback, steady or brilliant, is insufficient, a recipe for disaster, as we are finding out against quality opposition, when structure, organisation, defensive nous and intelligent kicking is required, of which we have absolute ZERO.

It's all about instinct apart from experience and basic football skills. Turpin has none, Boyd has none. Turpin is and plays like, a hooker wearing the number 7, and Boyd just hasn't got any idea how to organise an attack. We don't have a half and hooker. We have 2 hookers. Yawn. And again, as a half, Boyd is utterly clueless

Without a genuine half, 7 and 6, we are also ran against the top sides. Our recruitment and retention failures are biting us on the bum big time
In reality we are a bunch of apprentices and retirees trying to compete against teams full of tradesman.

The good teams generally replace tradesman with tradesman with a sprinkling of quality apprentices bought through and being nurtured by these people. Some even replace good tradesman with better tradesman (Pearce / Cronk)

We were extremely benevolent with our retirees contracts and appear to be stuck with them.

Our succession plan, if we had one, didn’t or wouldn’t or couldn’t foresee the need to replace the likes of Hodges and Parker with other tradesman when they retired.

When we kicked off, when we were the benchmark and in our heyday we were a team of tradesman. When we needed a front rower we reached out to Paul Harrigan and when he knocked us back we got Glenn Lazarus and Cyril had the likes of Lockyer coming through.

We need to be patient with our apprentices until they become tradesman. We need to **** off our retirees and replace them with tradesman. We need to be patient with our coach, who has just walked in the door, who I am sure is doing his best to make us competitive with the odds against him. He inherited our roster that he is not yet totally responsible for and he should only be judged when that happens.

Above all we need to hope our recruitment and football department has put together a succession plan. One that ensures when our current apprentices do become tradesman we maintain the status quo, a correct balance of both tradesman and apprentices. We can then take on the good teams on our terms, on level ground.
 
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PNG Broncos fan88

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Look at what has happened to the Lions since they brought in Luke Hodge. This is exactly what the Broncos need to do, go get an old-head winner. Doesn’t matter if he’s a bit busted, and manage his work load.
Cronk or Maloney. We should have thrown the cheque book at them before they announced their retirement/departure.
 

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Cronk or Maloney. We should have thrown the cheque book at them before they announced their retirement/departure.
Cronk was never leaving Sydney ... regardless of how much cash we threw at him ... he left Melbourne for a reason.

Maloney wasn't really prepared to leave Sydney either ... the only reason he is now is because he doesn't want to play against the Panthers.

the missed opportunity from Bennett and the recruitment team was Mitchell Pearce. he may not be much chop at Origin, but he is an excellent club player and would have not only been a perfect foil to Milford, but also have allowed us to developed our young halves a bit longer before throwing them in the deep end
 

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I wonder about Jake Friend. Do the roosters want to keep him around? Could we get him for cheap as an old head to have around the club, he wouldn't be worse than Macca and could teach Turps a thing or too.

We need to start thinking out of the box.
 

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I wonder about Jake Friend. Do the roosters want to keep him around? Could we get him for cheap as an old head to have around the club, he wouldn't be worse than Macca and could teach Turps a thing or too.

We need to start thinking out of the box.
a big no to friend ... he is a very slightly upgraded version of Macca ... pass

a turps/segeyaro 1-2 punch FTW
 

PNG Broncos fan88

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If the coach knew all along that we were going to lose, he should have applied dirty tactics.
Include Tagatese in the run on team for one purpose. Hit Cameron Smith off the ball after he passes. Same as what Sims did to Morgan, but harder so as to knock him out.
Tagatese would not have got a run ever anyways. Worst case he gets sent off, but maybe likely sin bin. His suspension would not even affect the future make up of the team.
 
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I wonder about Jake Friend. Do the roosters want to keep him around? Could we get him for cheap as an old head to have around the club, he wouldn't be worse than Macca and could teach Turps a thing or too.

We need to start thinking out of the box.
In 1-2 years time who are the senior players you could trust to lead our squad? Smith, Cronk, Maloney will all be gone - and the teams that lose them will regress I suspect, especially the storm - so who do you go after? RTS would probably be the next best coming through in my opinion, and I'd lose Milf to get him.

EDIT: He's on contract until the end of 2022 so will be nearing 30 for a guy who has had knee recons and relies on athleticism. No thanks. So the next best signing target is Ponga, but he isn't a leader. We just have to give our squad experience and after time they'll be unstoppable on their own once we sort of the Macca, Boyd, Gillett conundrum. Imagine Fifita, Lodge, Haas, Carrigan, Staggs, etc hitting their peak in the same season with someone like Ponga playing off them.
 
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so who do we realistically see/want gone from the club nexts season..?

Boyd - yeh/nah
Gillett - yeh/nah
Macca - yeh/nah
Glenn -yeh/nah

Cause I guarantee some of those guys would get tepid interest from other clubs and some would get exactly zero...

Plus we'd probably have to subsidise their contracts to get them off the books. 50% or something like that which stays with us. This realistically is what it "costs" the club to get them out..can anyone else simply see nay of these guys leaving money on the table cause its good for the team?

I dont, and I wouldn't expect them too....
Boyd - GONE (Obvious reasons)
Macca - GONE (Obvious reasons)
Gillett - GONE (Body is failing him and at his price)

Glenn - KEEP is a leader which we have a lack of, still offers something and is on probably a tick over half of what Gillett is on. On value alone you’d keep him just on that.

You reckon there is any chance the Titans would do a swap deal for Gillett — Arrow?!?
 

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If the coach knew all along that we were going to lose, he should have applied dirty tactics.
Include Tagatese in the run on team for one purpose. Hit Cameron Smith off the ball after he passes. Same as what Sims did to Morgan, but harder so as to knock him out.
Tagatese would not have got a run ever anyways. Worst case he gets sent off, but maybe likely sin bin. His suspension would not even affect the future make up of the team.
Dude. That is some AWESOME thinking.
 

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Boyd and Macca for Ash Taylor, we need a halfback now more than ever.
so your solution is to get a half back that while talented ... costs $1 million dollars a season and crumble under the slightest bit of pressure.

we don't actually need a halfback ... we just need to get them back from injury
 
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Broncapz

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I liked the bring someone from the outside the 17 in with a license to injure Cam Smith idea.
 

PNG Broncos fan88

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so your solution is to get a half back that while talented ... costs $1 million dollars a season and crumble under the slightest bit of pressure.
we don't actually need a halfback ... we just need to get them back from injury
But we trade in 1.25m, is that not saving .25m
Dearden is talented but has done zilch in the games he's played, he might peak with few more games experience off the bench.
 

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But we trade in 1.25m, is that not saving .25m
Dearden is talented but has done zilch in the games he's played, he might peak with few more games experience off the bench.
Ash Taylor hasn't done much more and has not only played in many more games ... but is on a way bigger contract ... no thanks

when your team isn't mentally tough, you don't rectify that by bringing in a highly paid mentally weak player

besides, you wouldn't save that .25m because you would need to replace one of the two in the top 30 (the other obviously being replaced by Ash)
 
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Ash Taylor hasn't done much more and has not only played in many more games ... but is on a way bigger contract ... no thanks

when your team isn't mentally tough, you don't rectify that by bringing in a highly paid mentally weak player

besides, you wouldn't save that .25m because you would need to replace one of the two in the top 30 (the other obviously being replaced by Ash)
Ash would only be worth a punt on about 350k a year right now. His stock has fallen massively.
 

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Ash would only be worth a punt on about 350k a year right now. His stock has fallen massively.
Absolutely, which means that the Titans are stuck with him, because no club will pay anywhere near what he is on and the Titans can't afford to contribute the amount that they would have to get rid of him. Absent him hitting a purple patch of form, he is there for the duration.

Talk about the way to stuff your career.
 

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