Grand Final Discussion

Kaz

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Neither did he say anything about Slater coming in with the knees (as he has done for the past 5 years).
Slater just rolled over the player to avoid hitting him with his foot or knees.

Bulldogs players assumed he used his knees & started the fight. (It could have been no try because of the fight starting)
 

subsbligh

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Slater just rolled over the player to avoid hitting him with his foot or knees.

Bulldogs players assumed he used his knees & started the fight. (It could have been no try because of the fight starting)
Looked like trademark Billy Slater to me. If a player lead with his knees (and pulled up at any point) on any other part of the field it's close to a send off offence.

The refs response to the incident on-field was "I can't do anything about it, except refer it to the match review committee". If the refs truly followed the letter of the law (and didn't play the fairness/balanced result/just decisioncard) he should have considered a penalty try, because his reasoning indicated there was nothing else in the aftermath to award a penalty to the Storm. In his mind they were separate incidents.

PS - I'm not a James Graham sympathiser. I doubt the knees had anything to do with it - moreso just brain explosion in the heat of the fight but not acceptable. You have to take a measured approach to the incident though.

Dumb from Inu to niggle by pushing Slater off, the fight took the energy/momentum out of the try. I thought they were going to take it off the Bulldogs.
 

Coxy

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Wow. You really think Slater did anything wrong there? He was coming across to get the ball. When he realised Perrett was there first he did everything humanly possible to avoid dangerous contact with Perrett.

There was NOTHING in it.
 

subsbligh

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Wow. You really think Slater did anything wrong there? He was coming across to get the ball. When he realised Perrett was there first he did everything humanly possible to avoid dangerous contact with Perrett.

There was NOTHING in it.
I'd like to hear the referree's view of it independent of the events that followed.
 

Ari Gold

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Looked like trademark Billy Slater to me. If a player lead with his knees (and pulled up at any point) on any other part of the field it's close to a send off offence.

The refs response to the incident on-field was "I can't do anything about it, except refer it to the match review committee". If the refs truly followed the letter of the law (and didn't play the fairness/balanced result/just decisioncard) he should have considered a penalty try, because his reasoning indicated there was nothing else in the aftermath to award a penalty to the Storm. In his mind they were separate incidents.

PS - I'm not a James Graham sympathiser. I doubt the knees had anything to do with it - moreso just brain explosion in the heat of the fight but not acceptable. You have to take a measured approach to the incident though.

Dumb from Inu to niggle by pushing Slater off, the fight took the energy/momentum out of the try. I thought they were going to take it off the Bulldogs.
Dude, what did Slater do to you? The referee comments about referring it to the match committee had nothing to do with the Slater knees non incident and the fact you think it's close to a send off offense is ridiculous.
 

Dexter

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Nothing like Slater, Burgess has his foot on Perrets chin, Slater did everything he could to avoid contact with his knees.
 

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lol now ive seen it all in regards to slater-bashing.

blatantly making things up to say he shouldve been sent off etc lol. classic BHQ! he didnt lead with his knees or legs, there was absolutely nothing even remotely wrong with the tackle attempt.

"The refs response to the incident on-field was "I can't do anything about it, except refer it to the match review committee"."

yeh, but the incident that they were talking about was the biting allegation, not a supposed leading with the knees tackle lol.

I'm trying to discuss whether Slater's knees were the motivation for Graham's brainsnap.
you might as well be discussing whether Slaters spear tackle followed by an elbow drop was the motivation, because that happened just as much as "Slater's knees" did.
 

Coxy

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I'm trying to discuss whether Slater's knees were the motivation for Graham's brainsnap.
Well no, definitely not. Graham came in well after that, was nowhere near the initial incident. His was entirely as a response to the "bruhaha" between Slater, Inu and Stagg. IIRC, Graham came in when Slater jumped to his feet after Stagg pushed him down onto the ground.

Would Inu have pushed him if he didn't make contact? No.
Was the contact dangerous/illegal? No.
Is Inu a big skirt? Yes.
 

subsbligh

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"The refs response to the incident on-field was "I can't do anything about it, except refer it to the match review committee"."

yeh, but the incident that they were talking about was the biting allegation, not a supposed leading with the knees tackle lol.

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I realise that (read my post again).

The ref didn't make a comment about the knees, though I'd suggest he would have if the fight hadn't occured afterwards.

It's not Slater bashing. It's discussion on what motivated Graham to do something (allegedly) out of character.
 

Kaz

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It's not Slater bashing. It's discussion on what motivated Graham to do something (allegedly) out of character.
I don't think it's out of character a bulldogs fan on the Bulldogs forum so he tried the chomp a few weeks ago, but missed.
 

QUEENSLANDER

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I realise that (read my post again).

The ref didn't make a comment about the knees, though I'd suggest he would have if the fight hadn't occured afterwards.

It's not Slater bashing. It's discussion on what motivated Graham to do something (allegedly) out of character.
Lots of people are saying what graham did is "out of character", but how many of us actually know what he is like? I for one have only this season to go off and from what ive seen he is a dirty pom who will do anything to get an advantage (vaseline on the legs). Unless of course you have watched his super league games subsbligh, in which case i apologise, but what are you basing his "character" on
 

Dexter

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The ref referred it upstairs and they looked at all of it, I honestly don't think Slater could have done anything more than he did.
 

QUEENSLANDER

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It was after he scored that the dogs players thought he used his knees.
after? immediately after the frame AP showed, slater rolls over the top of inu and lands outside the field of play. he doesn't do anything "after" he tries to stop the try. :S
 

subsbligh

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heres the contact, image attached.

slater better see a surgeon quick smartif thats leading with the knees.
Can we go back 2 or 3 frames - just kidding.

Looked worse in full speed and in my minds eye, though I still stand by Slater's tendency to lead with the knees and legs. I agree with Coxy's comment that Inu would have pushed Slater out of the way regardless and most fullbacks would cop that.

Either way counsel I have nothing else to justify Graham's behaviour.
 

subsbligh

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Lots of people are saying what graham did is "out of character", but how many of us actually know what he is like? I for one have only this season to go off and from what ive seen he is a dirty pom who will do anything to get an advantage (vaseline on the legs). Unless of course you have watched his super league games subsbligh, in which case i apologise, but what are you basing his "character" on
I haven't. In fact it's only the second or third game I've watched of the Dogs this year. That's why I went for "allegedly". The old Mike Tyson might be common place in the Northern Hemisphere.
 

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