OFFICIAL Herbie ***** off to the dolphins

Ouch.. that one hurts.

Hope the Broncs know what they are doing… I can imagine the Old Salt offered him fullback and the Storey Bridge seeing as he could one up the club with a player we definitely wanted to keep.

Been an issue in recent years, losing young talented first team players with good character, Coates, Dearden and now Farnworth. Never seems to happen to the top clubs.
 
Can only assume (and hope) he had already let them know he was leaving before the trials so they didn’t bother
Yeah I'd like to hope so otherwise him not getting a run in the trials would of been part of a reason he left.
Wasn't the dinner meeting where he was set to extend only a few weeks ago though
 
I do wonder if the Dolphins let Herbie know of any other big in’s coming for 2024. I think there is a pretty good chance they get the spoon this year and it wouldn’t be a super inspiring club to sign for. Or maybe they finally learnt they have to start paying overs to get talent.
 
That coach you think is shit beat your mob twice last year
Yeh true. How deep into the finals did you guys get??

I'd also say Reynolds coached the team pretty well for those two outings.
 
spin it any way you want ... but the scoreboard still reads Kevvie 2 - JD 0
Yeh true again. Is that up on the walls somewhere at HQ? I'd rather lose to your lot twice and play in a prelim, than beat us and miss out all together, in what might be the worst capitulation I've ever seen
 
I think we stuffed up giving the big contract to Staggs, that should of went to Herbie, if he plays Fullback for the then it's pretty much out of our hands anyway, he has always said he wants to play fullback, once we signed Walsh that was never really going to happen.

Even though it would of been good had we atleast bothered to let him play there for a few games when we had the basket cases of Isaako and Niu.
In hindsight we probably did stuff that up, but Staggs was our best player until he did his ACL in the last round... and he was in everything that year too.

Compared to Herbie who hadn't even solidified himself as a starter and was basically shoehorned into left centre because we literally had no one.

I'm hoping Staggs can get back to his best, but he hasn't been the same since the ACL injury.

I feel he's also working towards making himself a more all round player... last year he was talking a lot about his defence and him and Cobbo had a good combo... in the trials this year he was lining up for grunt work.

So his attack is still hopefully there and maybe he's looking to add to it
 
Well, good luck Herb, you've earned the right to choose your own destiny...you stayed through some shit years and still showed your quality.

He wont be the last to move between the 2 Brisbane clubs i can assure you.

I think he has to stay in the 13. We are, after all, paying him this year. Arent we all sick and tired of paying freight like last year?

When we won the comp in 92-93, apart from Lazarus our forwards were paid in sea shells and sticky tape.

Everything else went into the backline. Raiders were like this back then too.

I still think we have too much of our cap tied up in our forwards right now. And it will take a bit to allow those contracts to unwind.

Bottom line: along with a few other young players who have left us in the last 2 years, i have a suspicion (just a little one) that a few of these players simply arent buying what Kevin Walters is selling here....
 
Yeh true again. Is that up on the walls somewhere at HQ? I'd rather lose to your lot twice and play in a prelim, than beat us and miss out all together, in what might be the worst capitulation I've ever seen
Making the prelims means nothing if you don’t win the GF. If you lose the prelim you finish in the exact same place as the wooden spooner - without a premiership.
 
He won't be dropped, and he'll probably stay at centre for now, but if Mariner is destined for centre next year, he should get some time there this season at Herbie's expense. Same with Cobbo.

None of this will be news to the Broncos. They will have known he's going for some time. You'd assume.

I'm always curious as to why we don't use every tool in the toolbox. If we can inject speed against a slow centre, why not swap in Mariner? If we need strength against a big centre, Staggs comes in. Coaching and winning should not simply be based on hoping for an all-rounder, use some tactical selections ffs. The media seems to make it out to be the height of shame for a player, but, at the end of the season, a GF win is a team effort and all players should be recognised.
thoughts of shopping kotoni around and putting Herbie on the right side?
Dolphins or knights would have taken him in a heartbeat, surely.
What is with all this Staggs hate? Guy is a gun and puts in. His last trial game he made one mistake based on a bad read from a new 7 next to him and allowed other players to showcase/test themselves. He is a weapon and with that reputation he will get shut down more often. It is up to the Broncos playmakers and the coach to use that.
If I was Herbie I'd be pretty disappointed that I was never given a crack there in the whole time he has been at the Broncos.
Had Issako stinking it up, got named there but shifted to the wing when Coates got injured and Tesi came in.
Had Cobbo a guy who shows us late to training, too tired to play, bags the coach getting a crack before him.
Even guys who dont even have a NRL contract in Sailor getting a crack and Martin who was a 6.
Didn't even get a run on his preferred side of the field as a centre when Staggs was injured or down on form.
So if he was ever promised a crack in his preferred positions he never got a chance at either.
I would imagine this would be a factor, regardless of what reasons he openly gives, this is a normal human thought to have.
 
It's a real blow to lose Herbie as he looks to be coming into form just nicely. I say play him for the year unless his form starts to drop.

On the wanting to play fullback talk lets face it Herbie was never getting that gig as he either can't or wont pass the ball. To be honest I've always believed that Herbies game is tailor made for the wing.

Mariner played well in the trials and I'm sure he will see some NRL game time during the year especially since a spot has now opened in front of him for a backline position.

Mariner may even turn out to be a better centre than Herbie as he showed in the trials that he actually has a passing game unlike Herbie.
 
It's a real blow to lose Herbie as he looks to be coming into form just nicely. I say play him for the year unless his form starts to drop.

On the wanting to play fullback talk lets face it Herbie was never getting that gig as he either can't or wont pass the ball. To be honest I've always believed that Herbies game is tailor made for the wing.

Mariner played well in the trials and I'm sure he will see some NRL game time during the year especially since a spot has now opened in front of him for a backline position.

Mariner may even turn out to be a better centre than Herbie as he showed in the trials that he actually has a passing game unlike Herbie.

Mariner will probably have similar issues to Herbie if he is shoved into playing left center. Shame really when you look at it Staggs, Herbie, Mariner and Hoeter are all right centers. Be nice if we actually recruited a genuine left sided center.
 

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