Josh McGuire signs with Cowboys - Immediate Switch

[Marty Deutschmann]

Rumour has it that Moose has no desire to be coached by Seibold making the decision to move elsewhere an easy one. He is a massive loss and if TPJ and Lodge follow suit in 2020, the Broncos will be in huge trouble.

**** out of here with that shit

 

[Battler]

I think Carrigan, Haas and Fifita are probably more likely to be in their prime in about 5 years time. We have gone down the path of getting rid of a lot of experience in the past, especially after Petero left and it didn't exactly work out well for us. I think Moose, if we move him back to prop easily has a good 3 years left in him.

I just find it bizarre how quickly people right off a player like Moose who has been excellent for years for us after one season where he is a bit below par (despite the fact the whole team was pretty much ordinary for a lot of the time)

He's a good player don't get me wrong, but he's 28 and his form has slowly dropped off; we made the GF in 2015 without him.

Even the typical Broncos haters concede that the forwards we have coming through are unreal talents. If you believe the media Haas, Su'a, and TPJ at the very least have received offers north of 600k from other clubs. The club may have weighed the decision we made when we let go of Arrow (which was in hindsight the wrong decision, but that the time we weren't going to let McGuire go for a rookie) and thought that they couldn't afford to lose someone like that in the future. You also have to weigh up the salary cap and the fact that the Cows offered him what, in my opinion, is overs. They're desperate so I can get why they did it, but it wasn't a move a club in a good position would have made.

 

[Kyall]

He should of never have been put lock. At first I was for it and it was just a big fail really.

 

[Morepudding]

I've always thought he had been overrated. Even in his 'good' years. He's fine, but I believe it was his most recent contract when he demanded a big pay packet I just didn't agree with keeping him. He gives away too many penalties and has definitely gotten worse over the past year or two. But yeah, I always thought he was overrated personally. Good work rate etc, but not enough go forward. People often said how he would be our topmetre maker and that he made 140 metres or whatever. But that was often 140 metres of like 20 hitups which is quite poor. While some other forwards make 120 metres off 12 hitups. Which is far more beneficial.

 

[Huge]

I don't believe we'll miss him at all and truthfully I never had the wraps on him that others gave him. I could also be wrong and he's elite but I never saw it. Strange that, I have always liked the lesser light forwards and yet I always though McGuire was a pop gun when we needed bazookas. Not sorry to see him go especially after last year but nevertheless he tried his heart out for the club and that's meritorious so I wish him all the best. Quite clever the Bronco's, getting the Cowpats to fund McGuires twilight years.

 

[Marty Deutschmann]

Why is everyone so obsessed with this Carrigan no one who's played exactly 0 NRL games.... How can you all just cream over a guy you've never seen play

 

[Sproj]

Will miss his experience and consistency a lot more than I think people are anticipating on here next year and he is a great player BUT moving forward he is not what we need. Has great energy and aggression but he makes our pack a lot smaller and often just takes up a settler tackle that does not add a great deal to our sets.

My main concern is that juniors should earn/demand their spot in the starting team rather then proven performers making way for them. Thats how great teams are built...

I do however think he is a perfect fit for the cowboys IF they use him right. I think he should take the play after taumololo if taumololo doesnt rattle the defence enough for granville or morgan to take advantage. His late footwork and aggression may add the extra bend in the line enough for a deep and wide backline play to trouble any team. He also gives them toughness in the middle that they lacked this year with scott missing

I like this post but I don’t necessarily think that him going makes it more of a case that younger players won’t have to earn it...not necessarily anyway.

They are competing with each other still and they now know one more spot is available, that could inspire them on.

Joffa, Lodge, TPJ, Gillett, Su’A, Fifita, Haas, Carrigan, Fai, Flagler, Glenn, Taga, Mago, Savelio, Staggs, can’t all fit into the 17, there’s still a fair bit of competition.

On a side point, when was the last time the Broncos didn’t have ANY current Aussie reps?

 

[Sproj]

Why is everyone so obsessed with this Carrigan no one who's played exactly 0 NRL games.... How can you all just cream over a guy you've never seen play

I’ve seen him play (granted not a lot) and he looks like an absolute gun - huge workrate, leadership, calm under pressure and lives to the dirty work. He’s a good ‘un, very much in the Arrow mode.

 

[Wolfie]

Why is everyone so obsessed with this Carrigan no one who's played exactly 0 NRL games.... How can you all just cream over a guy you've never seen play

I've seen Patty play a lot, and I still think he is our best young front row forward coming through. He is just a pure footballer, he will go right to the top. I'd have put him in front of Haas quite honestly. He just doesn't have the media hype around him Haas does.

 

[Rico]

The finals loss was more than a bad day out. it showed we had massive problems and had to drive change around coaching, personnel, attitude and this is the start of it. The game has changed and we can’t keep trotting our the same industrious Parker / McGuire style of 13. We need some manstyle ball running, 2nd phase and a higher standard of discipline. A combination of Joe O and TPJ can provide this over time. A good bit of piece of change and business and all the best to the big show.

 

[Alec]

I feel like Ofa might be McGuire 2.0, only less agression and even less passing. Hope he sticks in the front row, and play his best footy there like McGuire has.

 

[winslow_wong]

I feel like Ofa might be McGuire 2.0, only less agression and even less passing. Hope he sticks in the front row, and play his best footy there like McGuire has.

McGuire is aggressive but gets zero post contact metres most runs though. The 4th tackle nothing hit ups every set has to go.

 

[roo-ted]

Who’s going to run it on the 5th on half way now !!!!?

 

[Splinter]

I got a feeling Carrigan is the one they will have to build into an 80 minute lock. It will take time and he should share the job with TPJ.

 

[lynx000]

Rumour has it that Moose has no desire to be coached by Seibold making the decision to move elsewhere an easy one. He is a massive loss and if TPJ and Lodge follow suit in 2020, the Broncos will be in huge trouble.

Source? This sounds more like your continued sour grapes agenda about Bennett being replaced. It appears sometimes that you were contemplating a weekend at bernie's scenario with a dead Wayne being propped up in the coach's box and at press conferences. Hmmm, now I think about it may have been difficult to tell the difference.

 

[Wolfie]

The tin foil hat part of me cant help thinking they are undermining Bennett by releasing one of his most trusted players.

 

[lynx000]

Rumour has it that Moose has no desire to be coached by Seibold making the decision to move elsewhere an easy one. He is a massive loss and if TPJ and Lodge follow suit in 2020, the Broncos will be in huge trouble.

Re this again. Moose sold his home in late September. It had been on the market for two months or so, I wonder how long this has actually been in planning. That points to the decision being totally unrelated to the coaching situation and more related to Moose looking after his family and his future.

 

[Wolfie]

Hasnt moose just bought at Samford?