THE EX Kevin Walters

Wolfie said:
Kevvie imo wasnt employed as coach because he was the best option for the job, he was put in charge because of the outside noise of the old boys.
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If Kevvie wasn’t the best option then who was? I’m scratching my head as to who else was available and a realistic chance of coming here that had better credentials than Walters?

I’m not suggesting the Old Boys thing wasn’t part of it too, but I do think of the realistic options available he was still the best we could get or thereabouts.
 
kooly87 said:
If Kevvie wasn’t the best option then who was? I’m scratching my head as to who else was available and a realistic chance of coming here that had better credentials than Walters?
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Shaun Wane

although, we had to go Kevvie IMO, given he outside noise from the old boys
 
Foordy said:
Shaun Wane

although, we had to go Kevvie IMO, given he outside noise from the old boys
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The huge gamble and unknown that comes with being a foreign Coach easily brings Wane back to the same viability as Walters at the time.
 
kooly87 said:
If Kevvie wasn’t the best option then who was? I’m scratching my head as to who else was available and a realistic chance of coming here that had better credentials than Walters?

I’m not suggesting the Old Boys thing wasn’t part of it too, but I do think of the realistic options available he was still the best we could get or thereabouts.
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Toovey probably would have been a decent shout if we were looking for experience. Fitzgibbon if we wanted another rookie coach, but one who seems to be well thought of. Wane as was mentioned before if we wanted a gamble. Wane had a much better record in Superleague than Kevvie. I think a lot of our options would probably have been gambles.
 
vertigo said:
What really sucks is Turpin has regressed too. Danny fucking Levi of all players is giving him a rest 🤮
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I don’t think he has regressed, he’s pretty solid. I actually think he’s playing to his potential pretty much, he’s an average hooker and that’s pretty much his peak I think.
 
theshed said:
Yeah I can somewhat forgive the attack. Round 1 Milf was playing on both sides and linking with his co-half. Some good shapes but I think Kev has purposefully simplified things to the absolute basic level and guys still aren’t able to follow it. This may be why our attack is so one dimensional - because the players are struggling to execute even our current overly simplified strategies. For me the jury is still out on this.

A concern is definitely the defence. Yea, he is working with gumbies but the right side has been swapped so much and not shown any improvement.

The right side has looked like: several combinations of the following:

4th in defender: Riki, TPJ
3rd in: Milf, Croft
2nd in: Niu, Kennar, Mead, Farnworth
Wing: Coates, (Farnworth half a game)

The only constant has been Coates on wing and Isaako at fullback. So who is to blame for the horrendous right side defence?

Is it structural? Are all the players just terrible? Is Coates the issue? Is Isaako not communicating the numbers?

I think it’s obviously all of the above to some extent. Though Boyd was back there and things were no better with the “games best defensive communicator”.

It’s obviously just speculation but I’d find it hard to believe that this teams’ defence would be this bad under Bennett. I’m not sure what the answer is.
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I would say it's related to line speed, weak or uneven line speed allows the opponents halves to spread the ball wide and attract 2 on 1s so the outside defenders are powerless.
 
Dexter said:
I agree with most of your post pete. The focus of the majority of the comments in this thread have been in the quality of the squad which are all relevant but Kevvies coaching is leaving me a little underwhelmed.
We are still doing one off ruck hit ups which is fine at certain times and field positions but we have zero creativity or variation.
Nothing comes off our half, not even a simple drop under.
Lodge needs to not ball play, ever, except for an offload in a tackle.
We dont have any shape inside said 20.
Putting it through the hands every time is simply not Nrl standard.
Even our flat runners telegraph they are decoys because they slow down at the line. They should be running through the line to provide an option and keep the D interested.
Bombing To' o was one of the few times we look like we had a part of a plan.
This is all coaching basics, so whilst Kevvie has excuses for the squad he doesn't for our style and our attacking purpose.
Then there is the D which us just as confused.
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One of the issues is the Broncos lack direction with the football. They don't have a David Fifita, James Tedesco, Ryan Papenhuyzen etc. to play to so a lot of their sets is merely getting to tackle five and if they can't barge their way over they'll kick and hope for Coates. I actually think they have three weapons in Pangai Jr, Oates and Coates. If you create the space for them the points will come. I think Coates in particular is suffering because they think he's Israel Folau 2.0 when I think he's much better running the ball.

I don't blame Walters too much because he's trying his best with the cattle he's got. He's trying to manage Pangai Jr better which is why he was getting three interchanges in a game.

He's trying to figure out how to inspire these halves and whether they have anything left. I think he gave them very simple instructions but they had a shocking night against the Gold Coast and that rattled them against the Bulldogs which was a very nervous performance.

On top of that he has players like Tesi Niu, Tom Flegler and Jordan Riki who are developing players and they're going to be in and out of the starting team as they learn to play at that level.

The thing with structures is that they take ages to develop and a part of that learning process is trying to select the right players in the right roles. I think now with the Dearden dilmna behind him, Kev can make the most of what he's got. I still think there's a couple of changes he could feasibly make that could bump Brisbane up to that 10-12th range.

Which I think is the key. Player agents aren't going to direct their players to the Broncos until the Broncos have shown that they're not a complete and utter basket case.
 
Kev’s game plans are starting to show and he appears to have a certain idea based on each opponents strengths.

The way he coach To’o and now Fifita out of the games, maybe the 2 most damaging players in the game right now, was very impressive. It does give you hope that with decent cattle to execute the plans there is some promise there.

His bench use was great again last night, maybe could’ve had Turpin come back in in the end to stop the fight back but Levi wasn’t too bad.
 
theshed said:
Kev’s game plans are starting to show and he appears to have a certain idea based on each opponents strengths.

The way he coach To’o and now Fifita out of the games, maybe the 2 most damaging players in the game right now, was very impressive. It does give you hope that with decent cattle to execute the plans there is some promise there.

His bench use was great again last night, maybe could’ve had Turpin come back in in the end to stop the fight back but Levi wasn’t too bad.
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It all about progression. If we don't keep moving forward even when we are losing games in terms of our structures, defence etc games like last night will mean nothing at all. We need to show the same resilience as well every game. At the moment, we take one step forward then 2 or 3 backward. Consistency in our team selection is going to go a long way to helping us.
 
Wolfie said:
It all about progression. If we don't keep moving forward even when we are losing games in terms of our structures, defence etc games like last night will mean nothing at all. We need to show the same resilience as well every game. At the moment, we take one step forward then 2 or 3 backward. Consistency in our team selection is going to go a long way to helping us.
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Definitely. Hopefully the team is mostly settled now bar injury. We’ll see how Milford and Gamble back up but for the first time this year we have a few winnable games in a row, even if we don’t win hopefully some confidence and momentum can build before we inevitably get destroyed by roosters and Melbourne in a few weeks time.
 
theshed said:
Definitely. Hopefully the team is mostly settled now bar injury. We’ll see how Milford and Gamble back up but for the first time this year we have a few winnable games in a row, even if we don’t win hopefully some confidence and momentum can build before we inevitably get destroyed by roosters and Melbourne in a few weeks time.
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I think we can take down the Roosters, just a gut feeling. We’ll be slaughtered by Melbourne as usual.
 
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