Manny Pacquiao vs. Jeff Horn

Dexter

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I just saw those scorecards and two of the three judges gave the first 4 rounds the way I saw them too. I only point that out as I've still only seen those 4 rounds.
Hey Huge Huge maybe you can gove an sssessment of the rematch .
 

Huge

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I don't get home till Tuesday night and then I have afew days to normalize after 7 12 hour night shifts. I also have my eldest brother having a quadruple bypass in a few hours and my mum has just been admitted to a different hospital so things will be turbulent for some time. I will get around to seeing the fight, I'm keen actually.
 

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Jeff Horn beats Manny Pacquiao after WBO review
Grantlee Kieza, The Courier-Mail20 minutes ago

JEFF Horn has beaten Manny Pacquiao again after an independent review of the judges’ scorecards declared him the winner a second time.

After Pacquiao and a Philippines Government department protested the unanimous decision in Horn’s favour at Suncorp Stadium last week, five independent WBO judges reviewed the bout yesterday and again declared Horn the winner of the World Boxing Organisation welterweight title.

WBO STATEMENT

In a statement issued from its headquarters in San Juan, Puerto Rico, the WBO declared:

“The Jeff Horn vs. Manny Pacquiao bout results were controversial causing disputes among fans. For this reason, transparency is so important. The WBO does not have power to reverse the Judges’ decision based on discretion as it can only be revoked when fraud or a violation of Law has occurred, which is not relevant in this case.

“Based on this, five (5) anonymous, competent Judges from different countries were asked to watch the bout without sound. Then, the independent results were tabulated to ascertain clearly the rounds each fighter won using an average scale based on 60, 80 and 100 per cent.

“To determine the winner of each round, 3 out of the 5 officials have to be in agreement.

“Upon the analysis, the findings stated that Pacquiao won the 3rd, the 8th and 9th by 100%; the 5th round was won by 80%; and the 11th round by 60%. Horn won the 1st, 6th and 12th rounds by 100%; rounds 2nd, 4th, and 7th by 80%; and then, the 10th round by 60%. From the results, it can be established that Pacquiao won 5 rounds while Horn won 7 rounds.

“The next step of the analysis was to combine the independent Judges with the Bout Judges to find the percentage agreement by round. Upon doing this analysis, the findings of the Judges stated that Pacquiao won the 3rd and 9th by 100%; the 8th round was won by 87.5%; no rounds were won by 75%; the 5th round by 62.5%; and the 10th and 11th were even rounds.
“On the other hand, the Judges findings stated that Horn won the 1st, 6th, and 12th rounds by 100%; by 87.5%, he won the 4th and the 7th; the 2nd was won by 75%; none were won by 62.5%; and the even rounds were the 10th and the 11th.
“The analytical method uusedwas also used in the decision of Algieri- Provodnikov and Paquiao-Bradley. Based on this analysis, Jeff Horn was the winner of the bout.”

At Suncorp Stadium, official judge, New York’s Waleska Roldan scored Horn nine rounds to three, or 117-111 but Chris Flores from Arizona and Ramon Cerdan of Argentina both had Horn winning a close fight seven rounds to five or 115-113.
Horn is tipped to fight Pacquiao again in November in Brisbane, although Horn’s trainer Glenn Ruston its urging the Filipino to take an easier fight ‘’maybe Amir Khan — because Jeff will only get stronger.’’

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http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/boxing-mma/jeff-horn-beats-manny-pacquiao-after-wbo-review/news-story/184c1c758b1bd1c73af968afb48028da
 

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Its says Judge .
It was to illustrate where the Judges score the fight from .Ringside .
Not a TV camera angle from above and metres away from the ring . With a biased commentator adding his 2 cents .
 

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Pacquiao is still refusing to accept he lost the fight ... lol

and he also reportedly hasn't paid his trainer.

I am very quickly losing all respect for Pacquiao
 

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Manny Pacquiao Jeff Horn re-score: Pac Man’s surly response to WBO review, Freddie Roach not paid
Staff writers, wires, FOX SPORTS

July 12, 2017 7:06am

MANNY Pacquiao has issued a surly response to the WBO’s confirmation of victory for Aussie Jeff Horn in their welterweight title fight, as trainer Freddie Roach reveals he has not been paid by the Filipino legend.

Pacquiao and the Philippines government forced a re-score of the Brisbane fight, which again came back in favour of Horn. Pacquiao responded via statement on Tuesday night (AEST), making clear he still did not accept the result as correct.

“Let the people judge for themselves. People saw what happened,” Pacquiao said.

“We have seen worse judgments in the past where judges manipulated results.

“Nothing surprises me now.”



Filipino Games and Amusements Board chairman Abraham “Baham” Mitra also issued a statement, saying he was unhappy that the review did not question the performance of American referee Mark Nelson.

“We are grateful that WBO acted promptly on our request but no matter what review they do it will be hard to change the result as the referee didn’t call it close,” Mitra said.

“The judges’ scores would have greatly changed if the refs did their job properly.

“He didn’t give Manny the respect and fair protection that is due to a people’s champ.”

Meanwhile, Pacquiao’s iconic trainer Roach revealed that his fighter had shunned him after the fight in the locker room, perhaps fearing that he would be told to retire.

Roach also made the extraordinary admission that he “gave up” while working Pacquiao’s corner during the fight, saying both cutman Miguel Diaz and Pacquiao confidante Buboy Fernandez had lost their heads.

“After watching the De La Hoya fight the night before and then this …” Roach told Sports Illustrated.

“I once kicked two guys out Johnny Tapia’s corner. His wife helped me in the later rounds, in a short dress and high heels, going up and down the stairs. Here it was just so far off that … I kind of gave up. That’s unusual for me.”

Roach, who said he would no longer sanction Pacquiao to face heavy-hitting younger fighters like Terence Crawford, said the 38 year-old “was definitely avoiding me” after the bout. He said Pacquiao was still keeping his distance.

“I really don’t know if he’s mad at me,” Roach says. “But I can tell you this: I haven’t been paid yet. So who knows?”
Roach said the Horn fight was the first time where he felt ‘Pac Man’ was simply not himself, indicating he thought the eight-division world champion was all but finished.

“It was almost over in the ninth. One more round like that and, man …He just couldn’t do it.”

“I would give him the benefit of the doubt and let him have one more. I would,” Roach added.
“Look, I wouldn’t expect a new guy to come out there. “I know what I have now.”

Horn is still expected to take a rematch with Pacquiao. The Aussie reacted with relief to the news of his confirmed win.
“It’s been good to clarify it because they have argued it. (Now) you can’t dispute anything,” he said.

“It gives me evidence behind me that I can just use now. Instead of saying ‘I think I won the fight’, now a heap of other people - professionally - think I won the fight.

“It’s definitely nice to have it finally put on paper. I thought I’d won the fight on the day and I think Pacquiao thought it as well. Now just to have it clear in front of us is good.”

Horn took a shot at ESPN boxing personality Teddy Atlas, who has been accused of biased commentary that heavily impacted fans’ perceptions of the fight.

“He kind of annoyed me a little bit after the fight. I’m on my highest moment and he’s kind of dragged me down straight away,” Horn said.

“I’m not really a big fan anymore.”

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/boxing-mma/manny-pacquiao-jeff-horn-rescore-pac-mans-surly-response-to-wbo-review-freddie-roach-not-paid/news-story/a09cc1720a55838c7656955d013a0c62
 

Dexter

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Pacs biggest worry apparently is the rough nature of the fight which has solely been laid at Horns feet.
I am no expert on boxing but to me if a bloke is going to duck and bore in toward you to get inside then no way are you going to let him, hence Horn draping his arm over Pacs head. Every time that happened the US commentators were crying headlock and foul. Every head clash they labelled a deliberate Horn headbutt.
One US commentator called him the dirtiest, lowest cheat he had ever seen in 25 years of watching boxing and went about proving his point by posting still shots of every time Horn dropped his head.
The fight was rough but there were reasons why, IMO.
 

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Pacs biggest worry apparently is the rough nature of the fight which has solely been laid at Horns feet.
I am no expert on boxing but to me if a bloke is going to duck and bore in toward you to get inside then no way are you going to let him, hence Horn draping his arm over Pacs head. Every time that happened the US commentators were crying headlock and foul. Every head clash they labelled a deliberate Horn headbutt.
One US commentator called him the dirtiest, lowest cheat he had ever seen in 25 years of watching boxing and went about proving his point by posting still shots of every time Horn dropped his head.
The fight was rough but there were reasons why, IMO.
Tyson nearly bit off Hollyfields ear. That's dirty.
 

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Pacquiao should have knocked horn out in the 9th but he just wasn't good enough. Whether he's just too old or didn't train hard enough, who knows. He kept going for the massive haymaker KO rather than unloading combos that young pacquiao would have done. Oh well bring on maymac
 

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Someone should tell Manny that the rest of the world isn't like the Philippines.

Not everyone is a crooked ****.
 

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