OFFICIAL Michael Maguire Appointed Head Coach

[theshed]

I normally read thread titles and then just tee off indiscriminately

I didn’t want to give away all my secrets but since you admitted it too

 

[nopatience101]

Anonymous feedback also allows respondents to be more bitchy and makes things up too. "Real feedback" is only really enabled when you have a culture of people not being afraid to speak their mind (respectfully) which is ongoing and not only at review time.

If there were issues, it should be addressed then and there, with no real surprises at the end of the year. But in saying that, given the timing of everything, it seems like DD and Co. were well aware already.

If you are going to the trouble of getting an independent third party to do a review I would assume you would be trusting their ability to sift through what may be petty grievances & what is genuine criticism or concerns, which is where an interview or discussion format would be most ideal, rather than a survey. A report could then be compiled with respondents contributions kept anonymous. The club could then use that information to take back to staff & players to address more broadly.

Yes, in a perfect world people would not be afraid to speak their minds, but even in environments where that may be encouraged & supported not everyone will have the confidence to speak up.

 

[Foordy]

I think it is a million to one Kev would ever land another head coaching role in the NRL, there's just no way anyone would be interested in him. Maybe the Qld Cup could be an option. He could just go back to Fox League for a cushy role too.

I would not be the least bit surprised though to see him pop up as Sticky's assistant at the Raiders next year. They are best buddies and I think Stuart might reach out to offer him a gig if he wants to stay involved in the NRL.

Seibold landed another gig after destroying our club.

Kevvie did a good job breathing life back into the club, so he'll get one if he wants it. Especially as he's coached in a GF.

That being said now he's coached us, I'm not sure he'll want to coach another club ... I think may go back to a career in the media

 

[broncsgoat]

Seibold landed another gig after destroying our club.

Kevvie did a good job breathing life back into the club, so he'll get one if he wants it. Especially as he's coached in a GF.

That being said now he's coached us, I'm not sure he'll want to coach another club ... I think may go back to a career in the media

Plot twist… he coaches nsw

 

[Big Pete]

My 2c on the matter...

Of all the available options, Madge was the most logical choice. The other candidates who were touted lacked the necessary experience and it was in the club's best interest to deliver change ahead of 2025.

Whether the appointment will lead to premiership success is another point entirely. I certainly don't expect the Broncos to be serious contenders in 2025 and I expect there will be a ton of challenges ahead.

I don't expect him to come in and immediately teach the Broncos how to play like the Penrith Panthers. Also despite my sulking on the matter, I don't expect Kotoni Staggs to start taking the heads off of key players either.

I do expect more attention paid to defence and more emphasis on the edge forwards. When I think of Michael Maguire teams of the past, it's players like John Sutton, Ben Te'o, Chris McQueen, The Coonabarabran Kid Kyle Turner, Chris Grevsmuhl, Angus Crichton, Ryan Matterson, Luciano Leilua, Luke Garner, Shawn Blore who were all focal points of the team. If I was to hazard a guess at who Madge will likely sign, I'd imagine one of his first marquee signings will be an edge forward.

Now let's say the Broncos go onto have an average 2025 season. 12 wins, 12 losses and either just missed finals or were quickly dumped out, what indicators would I be looking for moving forward? I highlighted a lot of them earlier, but it was largely the development of players.

For instance seeing a player like Mozer take a starting spot, Mariner take a centre spot or seeing a player like Trew fill a wing spot and provide depth. That with some reasonable recruitment and retention would give me enough confidence to hold off on searching for another coach.

An early indicator would be making changes to the 17. If he goes in like Seibold did and it's:

Reece Walsh, Jesse Arthars, Kotoni Staggs, Selwyn Cobbo, Deine Mariner, Ezra Mam, Adam Reynolds, Corey Jensen, Billy Walters, Payne Haas, Brendan Piakura, Jordan Riki, Patrick Carrigan

Tyson Smoothy, Kobe Hetherington, Xavier Willison, Fletcher Baker

I'm not going to be filled with a ton of confidence.

 

[Santa]

My 2c on the matter...

Of all the available options, Madge was the most logical choice. The other candidates who were touted lacked the necessary experience and it was in the club's best interest to deliver change ahead of 2025.

Whether the appointment will lead to premiership success is another point entirely. I certainly don't expect the Broncos to be serious contenders in 2025 and I expect there will be a ton of challenges ahead.

I don't expect him to come in and immediately teach the Broncos how to play like the Penrith Panthers. Also despite my sulking on the matter, I don't expect Kotoni Staggs to start taking the heads off of key players either.

I do expect more attention paid to defence and more emphasis on the edge forwards. When I think of Michael Maguire teams of the past, it's players like John Sutton, Ben Te'o, Chris McQueen, The Coonabarabran Kid Kyle Turner, Chris Grevsmuhl, Angus Crichton, Ryan Matterson, Luciano Leilua, Luke Garner, Shawn Blore who were all focal points of the team. If I was to hazard a guess at who Madge will likely sign, I'd imagine one of his first marquee signings will be an edge forward.

Now let's say the Broncos go onto have an average 2025 season. 12 wins, 12 losses and either just missed finals or were quickly dumped out, what indicators would I be looking for moving forward? I highlighted a lot of them earlier, but it was largely the development of players.

For instance seeing a player like Mozer take a starting spot, Mariner take a centre spot or seeing a player like Trew fill a wing spot and provide depth. That with some reasonable recruitment and retention would give me enough confidence to hold off on searching for another coach.

An early indicator would be making changes to the 17. If he goes in like Seibold did and it's:

Reece Walsh, Jesse Arthars, Kotoni Staggs, Selwyn Cobbo, Deine Mariner, Ezra Mam, Adam Reynolds, Corey Jensen, Billy Walters, Payne Haas, Brendan Piakura, Jordan Riki, Patrick Carrigan

Tyson Smoothy, Kobe Hetherington, Xavier Willison, Fletcher Baker

I'm not going to be filled with a ton of confidence.

I don't see why we can't compete for the premiership in 2025. If we can drop off so quickly, we should be able to do the opposite just as fast.

In his 1st 3 years at souths he took them from 10th to 2 preliminary finals and a premiership.

 

[Big Pete]

I don't see why we can't compete for the premiership in 2025. If we can drop off so quickly, we should be able to do the opposite just as fast.

In his 1st 3 years at souths he took them from 10th to 2 preliminary finals and a premiership.

Let's start with the health of the Broncos chief playmaker 34 going on 35 year old Adam Reynolds.

I think the Broncos are quite delusional that somehow he's going to improve on what he served up in 2023.

 

[Sproj]

Let's start with the health of the Broncos chief playmaker 34 going on 35 year old Adam Reynolds.

I think the Broncos are quite delusional that somehow he's going to improve on what he served up in 2023.

I agree and if we get half a season out of him we’ll be lucky. That said, you would think the onus would fall on the 1 and 6 to really start transitioning ownership from Reynolds to them and that, in the unlikely event it occurs, would make us very competitive.

 

[Big Pete]

I agree and if we get half a season out of him we’ll be lucky. That said, you would think the onus would fall on the 1 and 6 to really start transitioning ownership from Reynolds to them and that, in the unlikely event it occurs, would make us very competitive.

I don't think it's impossible but based on everything we've seen it's a tall ask. I just think fans need to prepare themselves that it's not going to all go the Broncos way and that there will be limitations.

So outside of results, fans need to consider other indicators before they get too carried away in the sack Madge thread.

 

[theshed]

I don't think it's impossible but based on everything we've seen it's a tall ask. I just think fans need to prepare themselves that it's not going to all go the Broncos way and that there will be limitations.

So outside of results, fans need to consider other indicators before they get too carried away in the sack Madge thread.

I completely agree about the other indicators. Ultimately it was the other indicators that got Kev sacked, more so than the results.

That being said, with the roster we’ve got, even with its issues, anything below 8th place is a failure. Not necessarily a death blow but becomes an uphill battle for Madge at that point.

 

[Bucking Beads]

My 2c on the matter...

Of all the available options, Madge was the most logical choice. The other candidates who were touted lacked the necessary experience and it was in the club's best interest to deliver change ahead of 2025.

Whether the appointment will lead to premiership success is another point entirely. I certainly don't expect the Broncos to be serious contenders in 2025 and I expect there will be a ton of challenges ahead.

I don't expect him to come in and immediately teach the Broncos how to play like the Penrith Panthers. Also despite my sulking on the matter, I don't expect Kotoni Staggs to start taking the heads off of key players either.

I do expect more attention paid to defence and more emphasis on the edge forwards. When I think of Michael Maguire teams of the past, it's players like John Sutton, Ben Te'o, Chris McQueen, The Coonabarabran Kid Kyle Turner, Chris Grevsmuhl, Angus Crichton, Ryan Matterson, Luciano Leilua, Luke Garner, Shawn Blore who were all focal points of the team. If I was to hazard a guess at who Madge will likely sign, I'd imagine one of his first marquee signings will be an edge forward.

Now let's say the Broncos go onto have an average 2025 season. 12 wins, 12 losses and either just missed finals or were quickly dumped out, what indicators would I be looking for moving forward? I highlighted a lot of them earlier, but it was largely the development of players.

For instance seeing a player like Mozer take a starting spot, Mariner take a centre spot or seeing a player like Trew fill a wing spot and provide depth. That with some reasonable recruitment and retention would give me enough confidence to hold off on searching for another coach.

An early indicator would be making changes to the 17. If he goes in like Seibold did and it's:

Reece Walsh, Jesse Arthars, Kotoni Staggs, Selwyn Cobbo, Deine Mariner, Ezra Mam, Adam Reynolds, Corey Jensen, Billy Walters, Payne Haas, Brendan Piakura, Jordan Riki, Patrick Carrigan

Tyson Smoothy, Kobe Hetherington, Xavier Willison, Fletcher Baker

I'm not going to be filled with a ton of confidence.

I like this a lot. All good takes. We certainly need to see Madge swing his dick around a little bit with our squad to breathe some life into it. It can’t be the same old stuff from this season otherwise it’ll feel very sad.

 

[Santa]

Let's start with the health of the Broncos chief playmaker 34 going on 35 year old Adam Reynolds.

I think the Broncos are quite delusional that somehow he's going to improve on what he served up in 2023.

He was injured most of 2023 (first time in a long time that he's been out for so long). If he can stay on the field, he'll 100% be better. Lots of other 34 year old halfbacks showed how it was done this year.

 

[Foordy]

An early indicator would be making changes to the 17. If he goes in like Seibold did and it's:

Reece Walsh, Jesse Arthars, Kotoni Staggs, Selwyn Cobbo, Deine Mariner, Ezra Mam, Adam Reynolds, Corey Jensen, Billy Walters, Payne Haas, Brendan Piakura, Jordan Riki, Patrick Carrigan

Tyson Smoothy, Kobe Hetherington, Xavier Willison, Fletcher Baker

I'm not going to be filled with a ton of confidence.

Just out of interest what changes would you make, because unless Madge makes signings for 2025, that's still close to our strongest team (and there's plenty of quality in that 17)

The only changes I realistically see would be Mozer and Te Kura coming onto the bench

 

[Big Del]

I agree and if we get half a season out of him we’ll be lucky. That said, you would think the onus would fall on the 1 and 6 to really start transitioning ownership from Reynolds to them and that, in the unlikely event it occurs, would make us very competitive.

Jock and Ezra to do much better this coming season .
Rogers and Walsh spend the summer in the sand pit learning to tackle . Riki grows a set . Things are looking optomistic from where I stand .

 

[heartly87]

So the real question is, what's his pass mass for next year? Is it you must finish top 4 with the squad we have, or scraping into the 8 cuts it? Or don't worry rebuild again? How much rope is the club going to give him?

You have to give him a year to get his systems entrenched. An improvement on this year is expected, so top 8 minimum. After year one it's top 4 yearly, contending for prems.

All I can say is since Wayne he is the coach that gives me the most confidence. The fact he can hold a conversation and speak his mind is a good start. He has a confidence in himself, his system and his experience. He isn't afraid of the job at hand, never once talked about what had been. He wants to get in there and get to know his men. His opinions will be formed once he has the knowledge of his players and staff. Sounds reasonable.

On the club. I don't think this could have been handled better to be honest. DD gave Kev his support and in the games that followed the players showed zero interest in giving Kev theirs by performing. Kev had no answers. The club was likely realising Kev needed to go and sounded out Madge from a distance. Knowing he was ready to go they let things play out, I believe Kev had every opportunity to keep his job. The club did their due diligence to ensure we had a replacement ready to go and once everything came to a head the trigger was pulled, Kev released, Madge formally contacted, signed and here in Brisbane in four days. That is unheard of, the story unfolded so quickly that it was resolved before the media could do anything with it. Think about the disaster that would have occurred if we let Kev go and had two weeks of media spin, interviews ect. The Kev situation is now old news it's moved so quickly.

Now Madge has time to cement himself into the club. Get the olive branch out for some old boys. He has time to sway opinion and set up for next year success. I am again excited about preseason games, it will be interesting to see how Madge influences these boys over the next five months.

 

[heartly87]

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[heartly87]

Mate, there is no way in the world Masge would be settling for, or happy with just scraping into the 8. Don't underestimate this man's drive for success. He will not settle for less. This can be his greatest strength, but also his biggest weakness in that he expects nothing but 100% from everybody in his team/organisation, all day, every day. Some souths/tigers players were petrified of him heh.

I just don't see how a bloke like Cobbo for example will possibly survive in a Madge environment.

Seeing as Cobbo struggled under Kev, maybe what he needs is some structure and discipline in his life. Accountability is something any professional needs to succeed. He said Kev wasn't a good coach. Maybe he wanted some direction, other than "go out there and be Cobbo".

 

[1910]

I said the only way to get “real feedback”, you can argue all you want, people are going to be more honest without their name to it, for a myriad of reasons, that’s just human nature.

I am not advocating doing it as a survey on an app, a review could involve talking face to face with an independent third party and respondents identity can still be protected.

Multichoice is not real answers or feedback. What you really think might not even be an option.

People just click anything, particularly if they've had a terrible year and want to go on holidays.