Next Broncos coach

[BroncsFan]

My take on this whole question of "Coaching Director" is that these days a Head Coach is a coaching director, with competent assistants doing the real hands-on work, what Gentle said in his recent interview where he said just that.

If I was Walters, I would not want Big Brother trying to vet my decisions as head coach. A waste of money. Better to appoint a class set of specialist assistant coaches.

To me a coaching director is redundant, as you say, but what would be important is a GM of football.

It's hard to pinpoint where Nolan sits in the hierarchy. Does he report to the CEO? does he fall under the coach or parallel with them?

This is where a GM of football would sit above the coach and recruitment, but below the CEO.

It removes the CEO from micromanaging the football department whilst providing a GM for all things football related.

Someone like Wayne was probably acting as a pseudo GM of football, but a rookie coach shouldn't have to deal with that... a GM of football has connections to source the best recruitment and retention, scouting and development, high performance, etc.

I think that's too much scope for a rookie head coach to handle and instead they should be focussed on the 30 man squad (performance, tactics and coaching, squad retention, training, etc.) ... leave the other shit to someone else, whilst allowing the head coach to provide input as and where needed.

If the coach wants a psychiatrist or whatever because it will improve the squad then he raises it with the GM to find one, including raising it with the CEO/Board for budget, etc.

 

[Kooly87]

I get that loud and clear. I also get what I both understand about Wayne, from what he has said, and from what I have read: he would find it hard to keep out of the dressing room. He loves coaching, he loves his players, he loves the game, hands-on. As for Bellamy, he has stated publicly that he wants to give up the demands of head coach after his contract at the Storm finishes. Somehow, I doubt that.

Having said that, I feel Bennett would make the perfect Head of Football at the Broncos, and if he decided to transition to that role as the next step in his illustrious career, I would be all for it. As well, I doubt any head coach would oppose the positive influence of someone like Wayne inspiring players in the dressing room given a positive working relationship between the two.

Personally I feel it's a little unfair on Wayne and even Bellamy to pass a judgement on them for doing exactly what you'd expect an NRL Head Coach to do, and they've done it far better than anyone else in their time mind you, and then try and hold that against them and decide that's all they can do and assume they'll never be able to let it go simply because it's the job they've had for several decades now.

I think if two guys who are the absolute best in the business, know football clubs and Coaching and the culture that involves and have been at the top of their game for most of their careers decide they've had enough of Head Coaching and would like to transition to another role, I think they've earned the right to expect the benefit of the doubt and they can be entrusted to know what that change will really mean for them.

 

[Shane Tronc]

If we want Bellamy to pivot to become a GM of football then we might as well be chasing Frank Ponnissi who actually does that role for the storm

 

[Sproj]

If we want Bellamy to pivot to become a GM of football then we might as well be chasing Frank Ponnissi who actually does that role for the storm

Apparently we are chasing Ponnissi or at the very least are very interested.

 

[Foordy]

Apparently we are chasing Ponnissi or at the very least are very interested.

I thought it was Parr we are chasing

 

[Kimlo]

Apparently we are chasing Ponnissi or at the very least are very interested.

Honestly, that's where we should be looking. Having someone at the very top, above the coach is more important than the coach itself. We need fundamental changes in how we operate as a club, not just a coach who controls the game day. Landing Ponnissi would be huge.

 

[Sproj]

I thought it was Parr we are chasing

Both are top of the list I believe.

 

[Nightwatchman]

You guys are crazy for thinking us getting Bellamy is a bad move.

We are the greatest rugby league club on earth and we need one of the greatest rugby league coaches on earth. It's that simple. Anything less is unacceptable and un-Bronco like. Who would you prefer? Exactly. It's either Bellamy or Trent Robinson.

Bellamy may very well say no or lead us on, fair game but as long as he's coaching and active in rugby league, we should be trying everything in our power to convince him to come back to us. Everything in our power. We're the Broncos and we are a fucking disgrace at the moment, this must change and who better than Bellamy to resurrect us.

I like Kevvie, he's a Bronco but I just can't see him leading us to a premiership. I don't see it. Paul Green? Hmmm yeah he's okay but not sure why he's gone so terrible tbh. He isn't the answer either. Truthfully, the only coaches that can turn us around for the better are:

1. Bellamy
2. Trent Robinson
3. Wayne Bennett

This 'Where the greatest' club in the world' and therefore we should have any choice of coach we want on a silver platter is pretty self-entitled thinking. Yes, the Broncos are a great club and its fair comparison that they are the New York Yankees of the NRL. Where the bar for success is set pretty high.

However, the view that the Broncos should only settle for coach that will guarantee a premiership will never happen. You will be waiting a long time for that because every club wants that as well.

I don't care if Kevin Walters doesn't guarantee a premiership. In the short-term I want to see this team playing hard and competing for a spot in the finals. It certainly would be a step up from what we have now.

 

[Mustafur]

Every coach has to start somewhere how can you see or not see kevvie getting us to a premiership he hasn't been given a chance to even coach a club?

There is a handful of good coaches in this game the rest are a season or two away from getting the sack eventually, which means there has to be a good coach out there who hasn't been given a turn yet, Walters comes from good stock and has had probably the longest build up to a coaching career I have ever seen and he has worked with the best in the game he deserves his shot.

 

[rnabokov]

Personally I feel it's a little unfair on Wayne and even Bellamy to pass a judgement on them for doing exactly what you'd expect an NRL Head Coach to do, and they've done it far better than anyone else in their time mind you, and then try and hold that against them and decide that's all they can do and assume they'll never be able to let it go simply because it's the job they've had for several decades now.

I think if two guys who are the absolute best in the business, know football clubs and Coaching and the culture that involves and have been at the top of their game for most of their careers decide they've had enough of Head Coaching and would like to transition to another role, I think they've earned the right to expect the benefit of the doubt and they can be entrusted to know what that change will really mean for them.

I thought that was what I said

 

[BroncsFan]

Both are top of the list I believe.

And both are top calibre... one of those two is the most important signing in my eyes

 

[Dee]

I see what you mean when you say it's self-entitled thinking but it really isn't. It's confidence. It's belief. It's almost bordering on arrogance but what the Broncos are missing is that inner strength, the aura, the deep seeded confidence that made them unstoppable and that instilled fear in the opposition. We beat them before the game even started.

That's going to take a while to build back but we were on the right track in 2015. We can get it back.

This 'Where the greatest' club in the world' and therefore we should have any choice of coach we want on a silver platter is pretty self-entitled thinking. Yes, the Broncos are a great club and its fair comparison that they are the New York Yankees of the NRL. Where the bar for success is set pretty high.

However, the view that the Broncos should only settle for coach that will guarantee a premiership will never happen. You will be waiting a long time for that because every club wants that as well.

I don't care if Kevin Walters doesn't guarantee a premiership. In the short-term I want to see this team playing hard and competing for a spot in the finals. It certainly would be a step up from what we have now.

 

[Foordy]

Every coach has to start somewhere how can you see or not see kevvie getting us to a premiership he hasn't been given a chance to even coach a club?

There is a handful of good coaches in this game the rest are a season or two away from getting the sack eventually, which means there has to be a good coach out there who hasn't been given a turn yet, Walters comes from good stock and has had probably the longest build up to a coaching career I have ever seen and he has worked with the best in the game he deserves his shot.

He has been given a chance ... the result a 37% win record

 

[Organix]

This 'Where the greatest' club in the world' and therefore we should have any choice of coach we want on a silver platter is pretty self-entitled thinking. Yes, the Broncos are a great club and its fair comparison that they are the New York Yankees of the NRL. Where the bar for success is set pretty high.

However, the view that the Broncos should only settle for coach that will guarantee a premiership will never happen. You will be waiting a long time for that because every club wants that as well.

I don't care if Kevin Walters doesn't guarantee a premiership. In the short-term I want to see this team playing hard and competing for a spot in the finals. It certainly would be a step up from what we have now.

I think we've definitely stopped believing we're the greatest club in the world in terms of playing. We're just business savvy and we're able to draw more TPAs more easily because we're capable of providing a strong business oriented offer. Even if the team plays poorly, we're able to guarantee exposure and have a much larger and broader dedicated demographic because we have a whole city at our disposal.

 

[lynx000]

He has been given a chance ... the result a 37% win record

One bad season out of his coaching career, where coincidently they made the Challenge Cup semifinals.

 

[rnabokov]

He has been given a chance ... the result a 37% win record

Interestingly, when Walters threw his hat into the ring last time, some people on here who now support him didn't back then, citing his 37% win record.

 

[broncsgoat]

He has been given a chance ... the result a 37% win record

So better than seibold?

 

[Foordy]

So better than seibold?

do you really want to set the bar that low?