CROSS FORUM NRL 2022 Round 6 Discussion

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Penrith might be the best team in the comp for the foreseeable future. They are also becoming more unlikable then Melbourne storm which is a massive feat in itself.

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Kurt Capewell used to be so good for Penrith.

No where to be seen these days…

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Sorry to break this to you, but your club is already in deep shit…

Disagree. Broncos are not in shit on the points table at all. Just had a rough draw. Broncos are a good team and could make the 8 if they go on a run. Another very credible performance last night. The score not a reflection on the game.
When we played Broncos Reynolds hadn't warmed up at that point. He is starting to fire now.
Katoni Staggs also coming to life.
Some Green Shoots for them given that expression is going around the league.
They are an exciting team to watch.
The teams that are a worry are - Dogs and Tigers.

Here are my power rankings according to me:

1 Penrith
2 Eels
3 Sharks
4 Storm
5 Rooster
6 Manly
7 Souths
8 and 9th Tie Broncos/Warriors
10th Cowboys
11th Titans
12th Canberra
13th Knights
14th Dragons
15th Dogs
16th Tigers

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The mighty brisbane broncos getting the sympathy vote from a warriors fan…that’s gotta cut deep.

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The mighty brisbane broncos getting the sympathy vote from a warriors fan…that’s gotta cut deep.

Haha!! But Wrighty’s points are valid. They played decent last night. They are developing into a good team. They have some good pieces. Just need to develop those combinations better. A few more wins and who knows….

I feel as a Warriors fan we’re gonna come back down to earth tomorrow. Our first 5 opponents were bottom dwellers.

I honestly can’t remember the last time we beat the roo’s. Was it 2018??

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Haha!! But Wrighty’s points are valid. They played decent last night. They are developing into a good team. They have some good pieces. Just need to develop those combinations better. A few more wins and who knows….

I feel as a Warriors fan we’re gonna come back down to earth tomorrow. Our first 5 opponents were bottom dwellers.

I honestly can’t remember the last time we beat the roo’s. Was it 2018??

They've had some good players (or atleast players that would be starting for them) leave as well in Mccullough, Pangai jr and Fifita. Tough going when you're growing good players like Fifita and they get signed by other teams on ridiculous deals which you can't compete with.

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They've had some good players (or atleast players that would be starting for them) leave as well in Mccullough, Pangai jr and Fifita. Tough going when you're growing good players like Fifita and they get signed by other teams on ridiculous deals which you can't compete with.

And Coates poached in the middle of the night,

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Broncos aren’t a bad team by any stretch and I don’t think they’ll be bottom two or three, but they have a long way to go before they’re pushing the 8.

Tesi Nui - imo not NRL quality as a fb
Who ever they play at 6 seems to be poor/below standard
Turpin looked like he has potential to be a good hooker 2 years ago but hasn’t come on.

Reynolds is quality but he can’t do everything himself.
Bite the bullet and put Cobbo at FB, he’ll make mistakes but in 2024 you’ll be rewarded.

Get a good hooker by 2024 and they’ll be going well, pushing top 6

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They've had some good players (or atleast players that would be starting for them) leave as well in Mccullough, Pangai jr and Fifita. Tough going when you're growing good players like Fifita and they get signed by other teams on ridiculous deals which you can't compete with.

Reece Walsh, Sam Walker, Lodge, … even Ben Hunt … Kodi Nikorima (j/k)

Point is - they had the pick of the flock but let them all walk…

For us, the only regret I feel is letting Papalii walk…. but I’m not sure if he would have thrived had he stay..,. SJ is an obvious one but glad we fixed that mess up..

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Should there be new rules to stop other clubs pouching players ?

I guess it’s a free market at the end of the day…..

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Should there be new rules to stop other clubs pouching players ?

I guess it’s a free market at the end of the day…..

Needs to be a far bigger salary cap relief for homegrown or long term players. The salary cap makes it way too hard to retain people. The whole idea of a salary cap is to prevent teams buying and creating super teams, but in my opinion it shouldn't be there to stop teams creating their own through juniors and player growth.

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Needs to be a far bigger salary cap relief for homegrown or long term players. The salary cap makes it way too hard to retain people. The whole idea of a salary cap is to prevent teams buying and creating super teams, but in my opinion it shouldn't be there to stop teams creating their own through juniors and player growth.

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And the problem comes in when players take unders to stay at (or go to) successful and/or well-run teams - like Coates taking less money to go to the Storm. By definition, then, the salary cap is NOT working as intended, as it is not levelling the playing field at all, there is still an imbalance.

Is it better than an unmitigated free-for-all? Of course. But it's not a good long-term solution because it is still leading to entrenched 'winners' and 'losers'. Compare and contrast the Storm with the Tigers and tell me the cap is working just fine (I know there's many other factors at play in that comparison but it does illustrate the point).

 

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So how come Nathan Cleary's tackle is a fine and Jazz got 2 weeks? I have not gone back and compared the Jazz tackle to the one last night and I claim no expertise, but Cleary's looked quite bad and Jazz's seemed relatively innocuous.

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Protected species… simple as that

Also the Jazz tackle resulted in an injury which gave the media more ammo to play over and over… shouldn’t make a difference but it sure as heck does!

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And the problem comes in when players take unders to stay at (or go to) successful and/or well-run teams - like Coates taking less money to go to the Storm. By definition, then, the salary cap is NOT working as intended, as it is not levelling the playing field at all, there is still an imbalance.

Is it better than an unmitigated free-for-all? Of course. But it's not a good long-term solution because it is still leading to entrenched 'winners' and 'losers'. Compare and contrast the Storm with the Tigers and tell me the cap is working just fine (I know there's many other factors at play in that comparison but it does illustrate the point).

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Mate, you guys got real problems if you have players willing to take LESS elsewhere.

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Mate, you guys got real problems if you have players willing to take LESS elsewhere.

What were the salary offer details with Jai Arrow leaving Titans for souths. Did he take less?

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What were the salary offer details with Jai Arrow leaving Titans for souths. Did he take less?

Titans reportedly offered around 675-700k per season. Souths offered 800k per season.

There is more to it than just year contracts values when it comes to the players in the upper echelon. His then partner had greater modelling opportunities in Sydney and was one of the factors in his decision to leave GC.

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Mate, you guys got real problems if you have players willing to take LESS elsewhere.

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No doubt at all. But for young Coates the choice was play under Kevvie in a recent wooden spoon team, or go get tutelage under Bellamy in a top 4 team who challenge for a premiership every year. I'd have gone for less $$ too.