CROSS FORUM NRL 2023 Round 24 Discussion

[Big Pete]

Manly Sea Eagles vs. Penrith Panthers
4 Pines Park, Thursday 10 August 2023
Kick Off: 7:50pm

MANLY SEA EAGLES

1. Reuben Garrick 2. Jason Saab 3. Brad Parker 4. Tolutau Koula 5. Ray Tuaimalo-Vaega 6. Josh Schuster 7. Daly Cherry-Evans 8. Toafofoa Sipley 9. Lachlan Croker 10. Sean Keppie 11. Haumole Olakau'atu 12. Ben Trbojevic 13. Jake Trbojevic

14. Dean Matterson 15. Aaron Woods 16. Kelma Tuilagi 17. Ethan Bullemor 18. Jakob Arthur

19. Ben Condon 20. Kaeo Weekes 21. Morgan Harper 22. Gordon Chan Kum Tong

PENRITH PANTHERS

1. Dylan Edwards 2. Sunia Turuva 3. Zac Hosking 4. Stephen Crichton 5. Brian To'o 18. Jack Cogger 7. Nathan Cleary 15. Lindsay Smith 26. Luke Sommerton 10. James Fisher-Harris 11. Scott Sorensen 12. Liam Martin 13. Isaah Yeo

8. Moses Leota 14. Soni Luke 16. Matt Eisenhuth 17. Jaeman Salmon

6. Jarome Luai 9. Mitch Kenny 19. Luke Garner 20. Jack Cole 21. Thomas Jenkins 22. Liam Henry

Cronulla Sharks vs. Gold Coast Titans
PointsBet Stadium, Friday 11 August 2023
Kick Off: 6:00pm

CRONULLA SHARKS

1. Connor Tracey 2. Sione Katoa 3. Jesse Ramien 4. Siosifa Talakai 5. Ronaldo Mulitalo 6. Braydon Trindall 7. Nicho Hynes 8. Braden Hamlin-Uele 9. Blayke Brailey 10. Toby Rudolf 11. Briton Nikora 12. Wade Graham 13. Cameron McInnes

14. Jack Williams 15. Royce Hunt 16. Jesse Colquhoun 17. Matt Moylan

18. Mawene Hiroti 19. Tuku Hau Tapuha 20. Daniel Atkinson 21. Kayal Iro 22. Jayden Berrell

GOLD COAST TITANS

1. Jayden Campbell 2. Alofiana Khan-Pereira 3. Brian Kelly 4. Aaron Schoupp 5. Phillip Sami 6. Kieran Foran 7. Tanah Boyd 8. Jaimin Jolliffe 9. Chris Randall 10. Tino Fa'asuamaleaui 11. David Fifita 12. Joe Stimson 13. Erin Clark

14. Kruise Leeming 15. Isaac Liu 16. Klese Haas 17. Keano Kini

18. Iszac Fa'asumaleaui 19. Thomas Weaver 20. Jacob Alick 21. Jo Vuna 22. Tony Francis

Brisbane Broncos vs. Parramatta Eels
The Gabba, Friday 11 August 2023
Kick Off: 8:00pm

BRISBANE BRONCOS

1. Reece Walsh 2. Deine Mariner 3. Kotoni Staggs 4. Herbie Farnworth 5. Selwyn Cobbo 6. Ezra Mam 7. Adam Reynolds 8. Thomas Flegler 9. Billy Walters 10. Payne Haas 11. Kurt Capewell 12. Jordan Riki 13. Patrick Carrigan

14. Tyson Smoothy 15. Brendan Piakura 16. Kobe Hetherington 17. Keenan Palasia

18. Corey Jensen 19. Xavier Willison 20. Tristan Sailor 21. Jock Madden 22. Jordan Pereira

PARRAMATTA EELS

1. Clinton Gutherson 2. Bailey Simonsson 3. Viliami Penisini 4. Daejarn Asi 5. Sean Russell 6. Dylan Brown 7. Mitchell Moses 8. Joe Ofahengaue 9. Joey Lussick 10. Junior Paulo 11. Andrew Davey 12. Bryce Cartwright 13. J'maine Hopgood

14. Luca Moretti 15. Ryan Matterson 16. Wiremu Greig 17. Brendan Hands

18. Makahesi Makatoa 19. Waqa Blake 20. Ofahiki Ogden 21. Ky Rodwell 22. Jack Murchie

South Sydney Rabbitohs vs. St George Illawarra Dragons
Barlow Park, Saturday 12 August 2023
Kick Off: 3:00pm

SOUTH SYDNEY RABBITOHS

1. Latrell Mitchell 2. Alex Johnston 3. Isaiah Tass 4. Campbell Graham 5. Taane Milne 6. Cody Walker 7. Lachlan Ilias 8. Jai Arrow 9. Damien Cook 10. Shaquai Mitchell 11. Keaon Koloamatangi 12. Jacob Host 13. Cameron Murray

14. Tallis Duncan 16. Siliva Havili 17. Davvy Moale 18. Ben Lovett

15. Jed Cartwright 19. Tyrone Munro 20. Peter Mamouzelos 21. Daniel Suluka-Fifita 22. Dean Hawkins

ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA DRAGONS

1. Tyrell Sloan 2. Mathew Feagai 3. Moses Suli 4. Max Feagai 5. Mikaele Ravalawa 6. Talatau Amone 7. Ben Hunt 8. Michael Molo 9. Jacob Liddle 10. Blake Lawrie 11. Billy Burns 12. Dan Russell 13. Ben Murdoch-Masila

14. Connor Muhleisen 15. Ryan Couchman 16. Toby Couchman 17. Zane Musgrove

18. Jaiyden Hunt 19. Sione Finau 20. Nick Lui-Toso 21. Paul Turner 22. Tautau Moga

Wests Tigers vs. Warriors
FMG Stadium, Saturday 12 August 2023
Kick Off: 5:30pm

WESTS TIGERS

1. Jahream Bula 2. David Nofoaluma 3. Starford To'a 4. Asu Kepaoa 5. Junior Tupou 6. Daine Laurie 7. Luke Brooks 8. Stefano Utoikamanu 9. Apisai Koroisau 10. David Klemmer 11. Isaiah Papali'i 12. John Bateman 13. Fonua Pole

14. Jake Simpkin 15. Alex Seyfarth 16. Alex Twal 17. Shawn Blore

18. Justin Matamua 19. Aitasi James 20. Triston Reilly 21. Josh Feledy 22. Kit Laulilii

NZ WARRIORS

1. Taine Tuaupiki 2. Dallin Watene-Zelezniak 3. Rocco Berry 4. Adam Pompey 5. Marcelo Montoya 6. Luke Metcalf 7. Shaun Johnson 8. Addin Fonua-Blake 9. Wayde Egan 10. Mitchell Barnett 11. Jackson Ford 12. Marata Niukore 13. Tohu Harris

14. Dylan Walker 15. Jazz Tevaga 16. Bayley Sironen 17. Josh Curran

18. Freddy Lussick 20. Edward Kosi 21. Bunty Afoa 22. Viliami Vailea 23. Ronald Volkman

Sydney Roosters vs. Dolphins
Allianz Stadium, Saturday 12 August 2023
Kick Off: 7:35pm

SYDNEY ROOSTERS

1. James Tedesco 2. Daniel Tupou 3. Billy Smith 4. Joseph Manu 5. Joseph-Aukuso Suaalii 6. Luke Keary 7. Drew Hutchison 8. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves 9. Brandon Smith 10. Lindsay Collins 11. Nat Butcher 12. Siua Wong 13. Victor Radley

14. Sandon Smith 15. Fletcher Baker 16. Terrell May 17. Dylan Napa

18. Fetalaiga Pauga 19. Elie El Zakhem 20. Jake Turpin 21. Zach Dockar-Clay 22. Corey Allan

THE DOLPHINS

1. Kodi Nikorima 2. Jamayne Isaako 3. Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow 4. Valynce Te Whare 5. Tesi Niu 6. Isaiya Katoa 7. Sean O'Sullivan 8. Jesse Bromwich 9. Jeremy Marshall-King 10. Mark Nicholls 11. Felise Kaufusi 12. Connelly Lemuelu 13. Kenny Bromwich

14. Ray Stone 15. Josh Kerr 16. Anthony Milford 17. Jarrod Wallace 18. Herman Ese'ese

19. Max Plath 20. Poasa Faamausili 21. Harrison Graham 22. Jack Bostock

Melbourne Storm vs. Canberra Raiders
AAMI Park, Sunday 13 August 2023
Kick Off: 2:00pm

MELBOURNE STORM

1. Nick Meaney 19. Reimis Smith 3. Marion Seve 4. Young Tonumaipea 5. Xavier Coates 6. Cameron Munster 7. Jahrome Hughes 8. Tui Kamikamica 14. Bronson Garlick 10. Christian Welch 11. Trent Loiero 15. Eliesa Katoa 13. Josh King

9. Harry Grant 12. Tom Eisenhuth 16. Tepai Moeroa 17. Nelson Asofa-Solomona

2. William Warbrick 18. Alec MacDonald 20. Jonah Pezet 21. Tariq Sims 22. Tyran Wishart

CANBERRA RAIDERS

1. Jordan Rapana 2. Albert Hopoate 3. Ethan Strange 4. Matthew Timoko 5. Nick Cotric 6. Jack Wighton 7. Jamal Fogarty 8. Josh Papali'i 9. Zac Woolford 10. Joseph Tapine 11. Hudson Young 12. Elliott Whitehead 13. Corey Horsburgh

14. Adrian Trevilyan 15. Emre Guler 16. Pasami Saulo 17. Ata Mariota

18. Brad Morkos 19. Matt Frawley 20. Tom Starling 21. Trey Mooney 22. Utuloa Asouma

Newcastle Knights vs. Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs
McDonald Jones Stadium, Sunday 13 August 2023
Kick Off: 4:05pm

NEWCASTLE KNIGHTS

1. Kalyn Ponga 2. Dominic Young 3. Dane Gagai 4. Enari Tuala 5. Greg Marzhew 6. Tyson Gamble 7. Jackson Hastings 8. Jacob Saifiti 9. Phoenix Crossland 10. Leo Thompson 11. Tyson Frizell 12. Lachlan Fitzgibbon 13. Adam Elliott

14. Kurt Mann 16. Jack Hetherington 17. Mathew Croker 22. Daniel Saifiti

15. Brodie Jones 18. Dylan Lucas 19. Hymel Hunt 20. Simi Sasagi 21. Jack Johns

CANTEBURY BANKSTOWN BULLDOGS

1. Jake Averillo 2. Blake Wilson 3. Jacob Kiraz 4. Braidon Burns 5. Josh Addo-Carr 6. Matt Burton 7. Toby Sexton 8. Max King 9. Reed Mahoney 10. Tevita Pangai Junior 11. Viliame Kikau 12. Jacob Preston 15. Luke Thompson

14. Kyle Flanagan 16. Liam Knight 17. Corey Waddell 19. Harrison Edwards

13. Ryan Sutton 20. Kurtis Morrin 21. Jayden Okunbor 22. Hayze Perham 23. Samuel Hughes

 

[Sproj]

Interesting to see how Luke Thompson goes, I reckon there would be a few desperate teams willing to throw him a bone if he returns well.

 

[Big Pete]

It should be an interesting game as well. Newcastle at home on FTA TV against the strongest team Canterbury have been able to name all season. Canterbury will be looking to build some confidence heading into 2024 and I'm sure they'll be looking to make ammends after their abhorrent performance earlier this season.

I'd be shocked if Thompson remains in Australia. Especially if he winds up at a club that could use him (Cronulla, St George, Manly etc.). He struck me as one of those players that's light on their feet but struggled to make an impression otherwise. He certainly wasn't worth what the Bulldogs were allegedly paying him.

I wonder if we'll see Thomas Weaver before the end of the season?

 

[Sproj]

It should be an interesting game as well. Newcastle at home on FTA TV against the strongest team Canterbury have been able to name all season. Canterbury will be looking to build some confidence heading into 2024 and I'm sure they'll be looking to make ammends after their abhorrent performance earlier this season.

I'd be shocked if Thompson remains in Australia. Especially if he winds up at a club that could use him (Cronulla, St George, Manly etc.). He struck me as one of those players that's light on their feet but struggled to make an impression otherwise. He certainly wasn't worth what the Bulldogs were allegedly paying him.

I wonder if we'll see Thomas Weaver before the end of the season?

Would love to see Weaver, he looks like an absolute superstar in the making.

 

[Super Freak]

Panthers
Titans
Broncos
Dragons
Tigers
Roosters
Storm
Knights

 

[Foordy]

Luai and Kenny have been ruled out of tomorrows match for the Panthers

 

[Big Pete]

Luai and Kenny have been ruled out of tomorrows match for the Panthers

Penrith have apparently applied for an exemption and want to include Luke Sommerton as a replacement for Mitch Kenny.

This highlights how silly the current 22 man team-list Tuesday is for me. I presume the reason they couldn't name Sommerton is because of the rules regarding train and trial players. I presume they needed to make it look unforeseen, which is why they need to call for an emergency exemption, when the whole point of the 22 man squad is that you're locked into those players.

It's either that, or Penrith felt entitled to a 23 man squad. I'll be nice and give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Foordy]

Penrith have apparently appealed for an exemption and want to include Luke Sommerton as a replacement for Mitch Kenny.

This highlights how silly the current 22 man team-list Tuesday is for me. I presume the reason they couldn't name Sommerton is because of the rules regarding train and trial players. I presume they needed to make it look unforeseen, which is why they need to call for an emergency exemption, when the whole point of the 22 man squad is that you're locked into those players.

It's either that, or Penrith felt entitled to a 23 man squad. I'll be nice and give them the benefit of the doubt.

Can't train and trial players pretty much play at any time after round 11 ... or is it only until August 3 when the 30 man squads had to be finalised?

 

[LittleDavey]

Penrith have apparently appealed for an exemption and want to include Luke Sommerton as a replacement for Mitch Kenny.

This highlights how silly the current 22 man team-list Tuesday is for me. I presume the reason they couldn't name Sommerton is because of the rules regarding train and trial players. I presume they needed to make it look unforeseen, which is why they need to call for an emergency exemption, when the whole point of the 22 man squad is that you're locked into those players.

It's either that, or Penrith felt entitled to a 23 man squad. I'll be nice and give them the benefit of the doubt.

I did a double take on this today as well. Why should they be able to draft another player in just one day after team list Tuesday? I doubt either injury or illness have just raised their head today. They have a hooker (Soni) in their team already, so they really shouldn't be allowed to draft in another. One of the other named players should have to moonlight. It just makes a mockery of the rules.

 

[Big Pete]

Can't train and trial players pretty much play at any time after round 11 ... or is it only until August 3 when the 30 man squads had to be finalised?

That's my understanding, but maybe clubs have to prove why they're turning to a train and trial player instead of somebody in their NRL and Development squads?

The whole system needs more transparency. Once again, we're past August 4 and Brisbane supposedly only have 27 players in their squad when they need to name 30. I mean maybe they have and Smoothey, Sailor & Rogers were all upgraded with Te Kura & Leota being added to the development list. It would just be nice for the fans to know.

The exemption for Sommerton was granted. I wonder how many the NRL have knocked back? It seems like they're happy to grant them, but a club has never developed a track record to really challenge them.

 

[Sproj]

Are we past the mid-season transfer deadline now?

 

[Big Pete]

Are we past the mid-season transfer deadline now?

From what I understand, the first Monday of the month (August 7th) was the cut-off date so the squads should be set in stone.

 

[BroncsFan]

Are we past the mid-season transfer deadline now?

The mid season deadline that's actually 75% through the calendar year (Nov to Nov) and 89% of the regular season.

 

[Sproj]

From what I understand, the first Monday of the month (August 7th) was the cut-off date so the squads should be set in stone.

Every club has to have 30 by now right?

So we are:
1. Walsh
2. Oates
3. Staggs
4. Farnworth
5. Cobbo
6. Mam
7. Reynolds
8. Flegler
9. Walters
10. Haas
11. Capewell
12. Riki
13. Carrigan

14. Smoothy
15. Hetherington
16. Taupau
17. Piakura

18. Willison
19. Arthars
20. Jensen
21. Sailor

22. Paix
23. Palasia
24. Mozer
25. Mariner
26. Bayliss-Brow
27. Pereira
28. Hoeter
29. Madden
30. Rogers? / Te Kura?

 

[BroncsFan]

Every club has to have 30 by now right?

So we are:
1. Walsh
2. Oates
3. Staggs
4. Farnworth
5. Cobbo
6. Mam
7. Reynolds
8. Flegler
9. Walters
10. Haas
11. Capewell
12. Riki
13. Carrigan

14. Smoothy
15. Hetherington
16. Taupau
17. Piakura

18. Willison
19. Arthars
20. Jensen
21. Sailor

22. Paix
23. Palasia
24. Mozer
25. Mariner
26. Bayliss-Brow
27. Pereira
28. Hoeter
29. Madden
30. Rogers? / Te Kura?

We also released EQW and TC... do they count towards the 30-man roster in the same way Isaako did last year??

 

[Sproj]

We also released EQW and TC... do they count towards the 30-man roster in the same way Isaako did last year??

Well EQW has officially gone to the Dogs and TC was sacked for provable reasons, so I assume they are both off the books.

 

[BroncsFan]

Well EQW has officially gone to the Dogs and TC was sacked for provable reasons, so I assume they are both off the books.

They're off the books, but you may recall that we were able to carry over a portion of the salary cap last year, because Isaako was released, but still counted towards the 30-man squad

 

[Big Pete]

Did Isaako actually count?

I remember we were all speculating on this the exact same time last year but I don't remember drawing any conclusions.

The only conclusion I came to is that we clearly care more about this than the NRL.