NRL bans shoulder charges

[QUEENSLANDER]

it makes me sad to think we will never see a prop running full speed 1 on 1 into another prop with the pure intention to flatten him. mark carrol vs the chief is one i wont forget. i saw a stat that shoulder charges made up 0.5% of tackles in 2012, and then, only 4% of those were high. how fucking dumb to ban it

 

[Twiztid]

Everyone has been paying attention to the dangerous shoulder charges.

What about the ones that happen near the touchline or try line. Usually performed by that last player who hasn't got the time to get his arms ready to tackle and basically goes for a push or shoulder bump to take the player out.

We are going to see even more tries scored out wide or more penalties as fullbacks like Slater who do this a lot will have an even harder time defending a player who has made break. We are going to see players pull out of try saving tackles with fear they will either concede a 8 point try or get penalised for failing to tackle with the arms and thus get penalised and possibly give up a try anyways.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Thats absolutely ridiculous... not all shoulder charges are cheap shots and to say people who do use the shoulder charge are too soft to make a proper hit is fucking retarded

No.......what's retarded is guys like you think the SC is a "big hit" made by tough guys.

Even little "Arnold.....what you talkin 'bout Mr D" Sandow can pull off a shoulder charge, sometimes

and he's a fucken turnstile.

 

[noisetheory]

Everyone has been paying attention to the dangerous shoulder charges.

What about the ones that happen near the touchline or try line. Usually performed by that last player who hasn't got the time to get his arms ready to tackle and basically goes for a push or shoulder bump to take the player out.

We are going to see even more tries scored out wide or more penalties as fullbacks like Slater who do this a lot will have an even harder time defending a player who has made break. We are going to see players pull out of try saving tackles with fear they will either concede a 8 point try or get penalised for failing to tackle with the arms and thus get penalised and possibly give up a try anyways.

this is a good point. anyone got any answers?

 

[Viti]

No.......what's retarded is guys like you think the SC is a "big hit" made by tough guys.

Even little "Arnold.....what you talkin 'bout Mr D" Sandow can pull off a shoulder charge, sometimes

and he's a ****en turnstile.

What's retarded is you saying all shoulder charges are cheap shots perfromed by people to soft to make a real tackle. What about Ben Matulino who has to be one of the biggest hitters in the game, he rarely blindsides people. How was SBW's shot on Clinton a cheap shot, one of the most famous shoulder charges ever?

 

[broncos4life]

The bit highlighted above? Garbage. Of course you can still use your shoulder in a tackle. A traditional tackle, where you drive your shoulder under their rib cage, wrap them up and drive them back.

You CAN'T use your shoulder if you're not also using your arms to wrap them up. That's what a shoulder charge is.

hahaha one of my favourite things to read is when people lose there head and rant about something they dont understand, absolute gold

 

[broncos4life]

But what if in said tackle the player gets a broken rib? Match review panel check every tackle where there is in an injury. Would the player get charged for a shoulder charge as the first point of contact was the shoulder?

It adds another rule open for misinterpretation by the refs, video ref and judiciary.

It would be good for the commission to fix the broken rules instead of adding one more

It's not about whether your shoulder makes contact, you can't do a proper tackle without using your shoulder to make contact. It's about whether they attempt a proper tackle i.e. wrapping there arms around

 

[Twiztid]

I am worried that the NRL is going to start binning players for things like this (the first thing he gets binned for)
[video=youtube_share;QBnpliFRanI]http://youtu.be/QBnpliFRanI[/video]

 

[fredie]

Shoulder charges should not make contact with head or neck , easy

 

[Je$ter]

Shoulder charges should not make contact with head or neck , easy

Exactly. It doesn't get much more black and white than that.

Head on head: no penalty. Shoulder to head: charged.

 

[fredie]

Exactly. It doesn't get much more black and white than that.

Head on head: no penalty. Shoulder to head: charged.

Thats what happens in origin . head on head . but its very dangerous . should outlawed sorry

 

[Big Pete]

Everyone has been paying attention to the dangerous shoulder charges.

What about the ones that happen near the touchline or try line. Usually performed by that last player who hasn't got the time to get his arms ready to tackle and basically goes for a push or shoulder bump to take the player out.

We are going to see even more tries scored out wide or more penalties as fullbacks like Slater who do this a lot will have an even harder time defending a player who has made break. We are going to see players pull out of try saving tackles with fear they will either concede a 8 point try or get penalised for failing to tackle with the arms and thus get penalised and possibly give up a try anyways.

This rule won't prevent players from leading with their arms to push or tackle the players over the sideline which is the appropriate course of action.

Yes, it may result in more tries (glass half-full: that's a good thing) but so does preventing players sliding in with their foot.

 

[Twiztid]

So this video above. If performed was next year. You would be happy for it to be deemed a shoulder charge and worth sin binning a player for?

 

[Big Pete]

It should be treated like a high tackle or a spear. Penalty would be sufficient.

Slater didn't even have to go for a shoulder charge there so it's not really a good example. Although, it's another reason why Slater is a human highlight reel and why Tahu was one of the most overrated jokes in the game.

 

[Je$ter]

Thats what happens in origin . head on head . but its very dangerous . should outlawed sorry

So you are saying head on head collisions should be charged?

 

[Coxy]

So you are saying head on head collisions should be charged?

If it's because the tackler led with his head, then yes. But then the tackler should just be penalised for being a dickhead

 

[fredie]

Touching the head or neck is banned . it should be enforced very harshly . dont matter what you use to attack the head or neck. shoulder,head,little pinkie,forearm,elbow,knee, that area is out of bounds . NRL can be a brutal blood sport sometimes but most rugby league players are juniors with concerned parents

 

[fredie]

If it's because the tackler led with his head, then yes. But then the tackler should just be penalised for being a dickhead

Just what MYLES did . lead with his massive forehead and smashed into FARRER's head in origin . concussed him