NRL bans shoulder charges

[Anonymous person]

yeh now its going to have a big grey area of 'did x amount of his arm touch the player' and does x amount constitute a tackle or not?

that shot, to me, is a shoulder charge every time. yes he might have touched him with his arm for a fraction of a second, but the intent and execution was charge up out of line and drop shoulder into the ball carrier. its a shoulder charge. next theyll change it to be like getting a foot on the ball in the play the ball - its ok if you dont touch it as long as you give it a good old college try. so shoulder charges will be allowed as long as you "tried" to get your arms around the player.

 

[ningnangnong]

See, if that's the kind of thing that's going to get penalised, then I give up. That was just a bloody good hit.

If they keep on introducing new rules, the game's going to become very similar to rugby, where there's an infringement every two minutes.

 

[Anonymous person]

If they keep on introducing new rules, the game's going to become very similar to rugby, where there's an infringement every two minutes.

the first quarter of the All Stars match seemed to play out like that anyway.

 

[Coxy]

See, if that's the kind of thing that's going to get penalised, then I give up. That was just a bloody good hit.

If they keep on introducing new rules, the game's going to become very similar to rugby, where there's an infringement every two minutes.

Well no, players will learn soon enough. If referees penalise where there's clearly no attempt to make a tackle, and leave the ones where it's questionable whether there was an attempt or not, then I think it's fine.

 

[ningnangnong]

Well no, players will learn soon enough. If referees penalise where there's clearly no attempt to make a tackle, and leave the ones where it's questionable whether there was an attempt or not, then I think it's fine.

Maybe so, but at the moment, there seems to be a number of rules where the referees are inconsistent in their decision making, and the players really have no idea if/when they cross the line.

I reckon it's just going to be another confusing rule.

 

[Porthoz]

Well no, players will learn soon enough. If referees penalise where there's clearly no attempt to make a tackle, and leave the ones where it's questionable whether there was an attempt or not, then I think it's fine.

Bullshit. Any good tackle in RL is made shoulder first. This is the kind of stuff that would make Yawnion proud.
Besides, if it's the shoulder charge impact that the NRL is worried about, Inglis tackle should be punished according to the new guidelines.

All the skirts that came to this decision and all the skirts that support it, are taking away a big part of the spectacle that is Rugby League, just because of a couple of incidents that went wrong and were addressed appropriately.

The focus needs to be put on player protection at the time an incident happens, making sure the player is taken off the field and doesn't return to it until he is completely recovered from a concussion!

I am willing to bet that there will be as many concussion episodes this season as there were before this ridiculous rule was put in place!

 

[Coxy]

Clearly I'm too mature to watch rugby league because I get enjoyment out of the skill of attack and defence, not meatheads turning to their side and hitting with their shoulders.

Which is what George Rose did. Which is what Inglis did last year. Which is what Te'o did. Arms at their side, shoulder into the ball runner. That's not a tackle.
This is a tackle (3:35):
[video=youtube_share;hlBnQtyTGCs]http://youtu.be/hlBnQtyTGCs?t=3m35s[/video]

 

[m1c]

No problems with officiating it in rugby union. The IC made the right call.

 

[Anonymous person]

Arms at their side, shoulder into the ball runner. That's not a tackle.

its not a tackle. its a shoulder charge, and shoulder charges are awesome. the NRL obviously thought they were awesome too, what with at LEAST 50% of every highlight reel being made up of them for the last 2 decades.

 

[Porthoz]

Now I understand the bike. It's to make sure you can wear your skirt to work Coxy! :001_rolleyes:

 

[Coxy]

It's funny how insecure you are with your own masculinity to impose it on others, porthoz :winky:

 

[Browny]

IMO the Inglis tackle in the All Stars game had more potential for damage if it goes wrong compared to Rose's. It will be too inconsistent to enforce properly

 

[Viti]

No problems with officiating it in rugby union. The IC made the right call.

The problem with it in Union is what they classify a shoulder charge as, some of the tackles that get pulled up are absolutely ridiculous and that was the reason I didn't want the NRL to bring this in.

 

[Twiztid]

I thought the Inglis tackle was fine because he had his arms around the player ready to complete the tackle but the player went down too quick. It was different to the Rose one which was your traditional shoulder charge, arms by side. If this was Union they probably would have called "arms" and because Inglis didn't grab him before he hit the deck, it would have been called as a shoulder charge. I hope we don't go down that path.

 

[Coxy]

I thought the Inglis tackle was fine because he had his arms around the player ready to complete the tackle but the player went down too quick. It was different to the Rose one which was your traditional shoulder charge, arms by side. If this was Union they probably would have called "arms" and because Inglis didn't grab him before he hit the deck, it would have been called as a shoulder charge. I hope we don't go down that path.

This. So long as the player is positioning to make a legit tackle, it should be fine. Only when no attempt is made other than to hit with shoulder should it be penalised.

 

[Porthoz]

It's funny how insecure you are with your own masculinity to impose it on others, porthoz :winky:

Whatever makes you feel better about yourself mate. You're the mature one after all. :laugh:

 

[m1c]

The problem with it in Union is what they classify a shoulder charge as, some of the tackles that get pulled up are absolutely ridiculous and that was the reason I didn't want the NRL to bring this in.

There's barely a penalty a round for a shoulder charge. It's a non-issue, really; and a small price to pay for improved protection of players.

 

[Viti]

There's barely a penalty a round for a shoulder charge. It's a non-issue, really; and a small price to pay for improved protection of players.

It doesn't make it any less frustrating when they pull up a perfectly fine tackle because it is classified as a shoulder charge. I don't want to see a hit like the one that Ben Matulino put on Sam Thaiday last year penalised.