Peter Wallace!!!

[QUEENSLANDER]

Are you lot seriously going to have a dig at Wallce again? What's the point? So long as you have a go at the other shithouse 16 players on the field too then fine.

So many plays break down when he gets the ball, yet hes the one that should be creating them! it shouldnt be up to gillet to create all the options

 

[Jeba]

Plays broke down when they got to Lockyer and Hoffman as well tonight. Apart from the purple patch in the middle of the second half all the playmakers were ordinary.

 

[Coxy]

Agreed Jeb. But one thing Wal does that really annoys me is he holds up the pass too long and even if the defence doesn't open the hole he's hoping for he passes ayway, with his runner under pressure. Cost us a length of the field 6 pointer tonight.

But yes, entire team was shit for all but 20 mins so I'm not singling out Wallace specifically. His form is still not good enough though.

 

[gUt]

I think we lapse into this flat style too often. If the second man isn't sweeping around the playmaker tends to just shovel it onto a guy who's in the process of being smashed, eg Wallace to Gillett. It wasn't that bad a pass except Gillett was already under pressure.

 

[Jeba]

Agree that he has to improve on tonight's game but just making sure he isn't the one to cop all the blame this time [icon_wink

 

[Donny]

Agree that he has to improve on tonight's game but just making sure he isn't the one to cop all the blame this time [icon_wink

I agree to.

He does need to improve but once again he wasnt the only one.

Folau, Lockyer and Thaiday were the best AGAIN!! Parker was awsome and his goal kicking was great!

Besides them four the rest of the team played shit. Gillet had his moments but twice pushed a pass which resulted in a knock on. Im not going to bag him though, he is a talent and i dont want him to stop what hes doing.

Lot of improvement is needed

 

[ningnangnong]

I think we lapse into this flat style too often. If the second man isn't sweeping around the playmaker tends to just shovel it onto a guy who's in the process of being smashed

Yep, it really pisses me off when we do this.

Lockyer was doing this a lot at the start of the season, trying to force the pass rather than holding it. It's something our players need to cut out.

 

[Big Pete]

We'll learn a lot in the next three weeks.

I don't think Wallace rates a mention tonight, which I spose you could construe as a criticism but for mine what really hurt us was our front row. Kenny and Tronc didn't set up a stable platform for the rest of the side to work off of and that's where we were beaten.

Hard to be too critical of them given we're getting the most out of what we paid for but still.

 

[Jeba]

Agree that he has to improve on tonight's game but just making sure he isn't the one to cop all the blame this time [icon_wink

I agree to.

He does need to improve but once again he wasnt the only one.

Folau, Lockyer and Thaiday were the best AGAIN!! Parker was awsome and his goal kicking was great!

Besides them four the rest of the team played shit. Gillet had his moments but twice pushed a pass which resulted in a knock on. Im not going to bag him though, he is a talent and i dont want him to stop what hes doing.

Lot of improvement is needed

I actually thought Locky was a bit disappointing. Nowhere near his best form tonight.

I thought McCullough had an improved game, we looked a lot better with him on the field than Hunt. Thaiday, Tronc and Kenny played well also, apart from that it was pretty darn ordinary.

 

[Coxy]

Not wanting to harp on about it, but gUt, this is one of my frustrations. "wasn't that bad a pass"...yet "Gillett was already under pressure". Passing 101 in rugby league is don't pass the ball to a player in a worse position than you. A halfback should not throw those kinds of passes.

It's poor fundamental stuff like that, and his kick up Kenny's fat butt that is the reason I am critical of him. Yet people make excuses for it.

Drives me mental!

And yes, Locky took some terrible options tonight too, as did Macca and Hunt.

 

[Bannermania]

doesn't help when you defense is a collinder.

 

[Porthoz]

I agree Coxy that Wallace's timing was very poor last night. Everytime he got the ball he seemed to actually be in a very good position to create something, but once we passed, nothing was on. He had the momentum but not the execution.

Lockyer was just as bad. He had the time, but then he'd do some stupid predictable inside ball to Thaiday. Annoyed the shit out of me. Either that or he'd throw some pressure passes onto the chest of our back rowers and they'd get absolutely smashed in the tackle.

I disagree they had time, except for those crazy 15-20 minutes, they had to play behind a beaten pack. The Roosters had all the time in the world to reposition themselves and were quick off the line everytime!

 

[tkday]

Wallace was all over the shop last night, but the fact that Locky had problems as well probably shows that our forward pack were probably not helping the cause for Wallace.

 

[Porthoz]

[quote="The Rock":2anbx1mk]I agree Coxy that Wallace's timing was very poor last night. Everytime he got the ball he seemed to actually be in a very good position to create something, but once we passed, nothing was on. He had the momentum but not the execution.

Lockyer was just as bad. He had the time, but then he'd do some stupid predictable inside ball to Thaiday. Annoyed the shit out of me. Either that or he'd throw some pressure passes onto the chest of our back rowers and they'd get absolutely smashed in the tackle.

I disagree they had time, except for those crazy 15-20 minutes, they had to play behind a beaten pack. The Roosters had all the time in the world to reposition themselves and were quick off the line everytime!

Yeah that's what I mean mate, WHEN they had the time their execution was poor. Pressure passes, delayed passes, poor timing etc.[/quote:2anbx1mk]
When they had time, we scored 4 tries... Imagine if their passes and timing had been good! [icon_wink
Fact is that both Locky and Wallace spent at least 60 minutes of the game trying to pull miracles because the platform laid by our forwards was absolute crap.
Playing against a well positioned defense that gets off the line quick as the Roosters did most of the night will make any halve's job really tough. I wish we had done that to Carney!
They came with their lesson well studied...

 

[Coxy]

audragon: Is Wallace capable of having a bad game without it being someone else's fault? I'm not saying the forwards weren't shit, but there were bad things Wallace did that were entirely his fault - the two of note, kicking it into Kenny's arse and the shithouse pass for Gillett.

Yes, Lockyer had some shockers too, and Macca, and Hunt. All the playmakers were off their game, and SOME of it was attributable to the poor go forward. Not all of it though.

The entire team was flat for 52 minutes of that game. Wallace doesn't deserve to be singled out, but he doesn't deserve to be excused because everyone else fucked up.

 

[Porthoz]

audragon: Is Wallace capable of having a bad game without it being someone else's fault? I'm not saying the forwards weren't shit, but there were bad things Wallace did that were entirely his fault - the two of note, kicking it into Kenny's arse and the shithouse pass for Gillett.

Yes, Lockyer had some shockers too, and Macca, and Hunt. All the playmakers were off their game, and SOME of it was attributable to the poor go forward. Not all of it though.

The entire team was flat for 52 minutes of that game. Wallace doesn't deserve to be singled out, but he doesn't deserve to be excused because everyone else **** up.

Where do you see me excuse him? I agree with what everything you say in this post, although I would argue that MOST of it had to with the poor go forward and slow play the ball. Look at how he and Locky suddenly found the holes and timing when we rolled forward yesterday.

I have a problem with people singling him out when things don't go well.
For example the Tigers game. He took a few wrong options, was unlucky to have a kick intercepted that resulted in a try against us, but he tackled, scored a try and assisted another from memory, and was IMO one of our best on the park. Still, he was bagged!
As I said previously, it's like people expect him to play at the level of a Thurston and he will never be good enough... [icon_shru

 

[Porthoz]

For anyone interested:

http://www.nrl.com/news/news/newsar...with-peter-wallace-this-thursday/default.aspx

 

[Kimlo]

For anyone interested:

http://www.nrl.com/news/news/newsar...with-peter-wallace-this-thursday/default.aspx

No doubt Coxy was one of the first to sign up.

I signed up btw, it will be worth it purely to witness the trolls who will inevitably join in.