POST GAME [Round 1, 2024] Broncos vs Roosters

[Galah]

We should have known this wouldn't pass without Mundine sticking his nose in ... Surprisingly, Mundine claims this isn't racism and Ezra should "toughen up" ... This coming from a man who has accused every man and his dog in rugby league of racism, hell Mundine even thought it was racism when he missed selection where another indigenous player was selected instead.

Mundine said

“I just wanted to put my 2c piece about the Ezra Mam controversy, about racism,” Mundine said.

“I mean, it ain’t racism.

“When two brothers are brown or black fellas, you can slur each other, you call them a ‘black c’ or this and that, that’s what they are.

“It’s like African-American and another African-American calling each other the n-word.

“I think they outta toughen up in that sense. It’s not racism.”

I’m not touching this with a ten foot pole!

 

[Harry Sack]

We should have known this wouldn't pass without Mundine sticking his nose in ... Surprisingly, Mundine claims this isn't racism and Ezra should "toughen up" ... This coming from a man who has accused every man and his dog in rugby league of racism, hell Mundine even thought it was racism when he missed selection where another indigenous player was selected instead.

Mundine said

“I just wanted to put my 2c piece about the Ezra Mam controversy, about racism,” Mundine said.

“I mean, it ain’t racism.

“When two brothers are brown or black fellas, you can slur each other, you call them a ‘black c’ or this and that, that’s what they are.

“It’s like African-American and another African-American calling each other the n-word.

“I think they outta toughen up in that sense. It’s not racism.”

I guarantee this is exactly how Spencer and a number of other players think. TBH, I get it...but it's not the point. If you want to stamp racism out of the game and society in general, you just can't have this kind of view.

 

[broncos4life]

I guarantee this is exactly how Spencer and a number of other players think. TBH, I get it...but it's not the point. If you want to stamp racism out of the game and society in general, you just can't have this kind of view.

It's not even a reasonable view. History is full of racism and discrimination between different ethnicities where both have brown skin. It is such a shit take but it's hardly surprising.

 

[Harry Sack]

It's not even a reasonable view. History is full of racism and discrimination between different ethnicities where both have brown skin. It is such a shit take but it's hardly surprising.

I've also never understood how guys in America can refer to each other by the N word...a word that has been used to denigrate them forever. Boggles the mind

 

[Xzei]

I've also never understood how guys in America can refer to each other by the N word...a word that has been used to denigrate them forever. Boggles the mind

I mean they are in awe of the australian use of 'c#$t' its not that dissimilar

 

[Super Freak]

So what if an Indigenous person called another Indigenous person a monkey, but the person that said it was a white Indigenous person.

Would Mundine still say that's not racism? They're both Indigenous people.

 

[Harry Sack]

So what if an Indigenous person called another Indigenous person a monkey, but the person that said it was a white Indigenous person.

Would Mundine still say that's not racism? They're both Indigenous people.

Live shots of Mundine.

 

[MrTickyMcG]

Mundine makes it simple; brown skin people can be racist to all other brown skin people regardless of ethnicity.

 

[Sproj]

Yeah the Hutus and Tutsis were both black and isn't that a good thing, imagine the hatred that would have accurred if they took each others' insults seriously.

The guy is a moron.

 

[Nashy]

Well it's always good to hear from Mundine. Very smart man.

 

[lynx000]

I am up to page 44, but the plea of guilty was not a surprise to me. Whether there was audio or not, or the vision of him mouthing the words, I thought he was gone for all money in any event. The plea of guilty is a damage minimisation exercise to reduce the length of the suspension.

I have sat on over 100 judiciary/disciplinary tribunals including probably more than half as chair. The evidence from Mam combined with his very fresh complaint would have been compelling evidence. That it was supported by two or more players who on video are in close proximity would strengthen the case. Add on to that the contemporaenous reactions of outrage from his team mates in close proximity and it was pretty much a compelling case at that stage.

Then you add in Leniu's comments post game. Any prosecutor worth his weight would absolutely hammer him in cross-examination about those comments `all fun and games'. He is given an early opportunity to deny the allegations in the strongest terms and in my view makes a de facto admission to saying something.

Listening to him speak, he would have been a shocking witness and under cross-examination would have shot himself in the foot.

I would be really interested to know the details of the charge. In a judiciary hearing last year we found a player who invited opposition players to meet him in the car park to be guilty of contrary conduct for that allegation alone. The thing that may save him is that it was said to a reporter and not to an opposition player.

The incident in the hotel, if he instigated it as alleged would constitute a further act of contrary conduct.

Over time you will see that offences of this nature are getting more heavily punished. Gallen got him with a limp lettuce leaf, Montoya got four weeks. I regard this allegation to be more serious than that of Montoya, and then you throw in the aggravating features of the opening game of the season on the Las Vegas junket. Without a plea of guilty I thought he would have been looking at 10-16 weeks (the latter end if the hotel incident is thrown in).

The early plea and apology will get him about a 25% discount, so I would say somewhere between 7-12 weeks.

 

[Mr Fourex]

The early plea and apology will get him about a 25% discount, so I would say somewhere between 7-12 weeks.

Let's put a carton of piss on it.....?

I'll go 6& below + 13& above....you have your 7-12.

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[Old Mate]

Let's put a carton of piss on it.....?

I'll go 6& below + 13& above....you have your 7-12.

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I think you’re right, six or less. But I can also see them not wanting him to play the broncos again.

 

[broncsgoat]

It’s just a shame public executions are a thing of the past because what he did deserves the noose

 

[Johnny92]

Mitchell has hit back at the Mundine comments.

 

[lynx000]

Let's put a carton of piss on it.....?

I'll go 6& below + 13& above....you have your 7-12.

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If I knew how the charge was particularised I would probably take the bet, but there are too many variables.

 

[mstreet]

Never really got the argument that a black on black racial slurs isn't a racist slur.

I don't get the all insults are equal as one poster stated. That's a bit like saying all crimes are equal, because it's a crime..

He did the right thing by pleading guilty. He would have been a pariah otherwise. A number of people heard it. Everyone within the immediate NRL knew it. Lying about it would have been a massive character fail. I don't think his credibility would have recovered.

Bummed about no game this weekend.

 

[Mustafur]

Never really got the argument that a black on black racial slurs isn't a racist slur.

Especially when they are completely different races and cultures involved.