POST GAME Round 1 - Broncos vs Eels

[theshed]

Didn't say he was a better defender , better rounded player was my words

Yeah I was disagreeing. I think Opacic is more rounded player. I think he’s equal to Copley in attack and far more reliable in defence.

 

[Brocko]

Just watched the game again because I am an idiot like that...

Anyways, I hate that this is how the game has gone but we could learn a thing from other teams milking penalties. There is a couple 'crushers' on us early 2nd half coming out of trouble and we just get up and play the ball.

Flip the coin and Fergo and Gutho both milked these for penalties coming out of trouble for similar or lesser contact.

I hate that the game has come to that but its literally a free pass out of trouble and we just don't do it.

 

[pagey]

Yeah I was disagreeing. I think Opacic is more rounded player. I think he’s equal to Copley in attack and far more reliable in defence.

I disagree about you disagreeing, Copley is much more of a threat .

 

[Midean]

After sleeping on it, and thinking more on the game, i am super happy with the performance the Broncos put in last night.
I loved Kevvies presser, and i get the feeling this Broncos team will build to something special in time.

The NRL needs to do something about the officiating as it is deciding games more than either team on the paddock.
All in all, it looks far more promising than last season.

 

[Foordy]

Effort effort... this is a professional sport with professional athletes. Players putting effort in is a bare minimum standard, not something to be amazed by. Pats on the back for having a go, lord almighty. What would Craig Bellamy say after conceding an 18 point lead, ‘Good effort, really appreciated it’? For whatever reason the guys fall to pieces defensively once the other team gets a foot in the door. Why is this happening? How’s can they fix it?

let's ask him ... because the Storm damn near blew a 22 point half time lead

 

[lynx000]

let's ask him ... because the Storm damn near blew a 22 point half time lead

And without the injury toll we had last night. Certain posters in here that are still being highly critical of the performance in the second half, I don't think are giving proper recognition to the impact the loss of three players will have on any team (let alone ours) particularly with the game being sped up.

We also did not get the rub of the green with a number of decisions and Parra pulled off at least one arsey try. Compared to last year it was light years ahead in terms of our performance and effort.

Plus for the first time in a while we looked to have some attacking and defence structure. A performance to build on in my eyes.

 

[Sproj]

Just watched the game again because I am an idiot like that...

Anyways, I hate that this is how the game has gone but we could learn a thing from other teams milking penalties. There is a couple 'crushers' on us early 2nd half coming out of trouble and we just get up and play the ball.

Flip the coin and Fergo and Gutho both milked these for penalties coming out of trouble for similar or lesser contact.

I hate that the game has come to that but its literally a free pass out of trouble and we just don't do it.

I actually think our boys did try to do it but of course, nothing resulted from it. I mean Mead got up with blood coming from his nose but nope, play on. Gutherson lost a strand of hair, PENALTY!

 

[hench2020]

I wonder if we had Seibold as coach and lost a game by going 0-24 in the 2nd half whether the comments would be so positive.

 

[ivanhungryjak]

It was at 17:30 to go.

I wonder if we had Seibold as coach and lost a game by going 0-24 in the 2nd half whether the comments would be so positive.

I just liked the fact that heads didn’t drop and they didn’t just give up.

 

[Allo]

I wonder if we had Seibold as coach and lost a game by going 0-24 in the 2nd half whether the comments would be so positive.

Like I said in a pre-season thread, it was the manner in which we were losing under Seibold. We didn't look like we knew each other or wanted to be there. So long as we improved our effort and 'look' in how we played, it would be an improvement.

Last night we were up for the fight and didn't crumble instantly. We were just out on our feet with only one player on the bench

 

[calsy]

And without the injury toll we had last night. Certain posters in here that are still being highly critical of the performance in the second half, I don't think are giving proper recognition to the impact the loss of three players will have on any team (let alone ours) particularly with the game being sped up.

We also did not get the rub of the green with a number of decisions and Parra pulled off at least one arsey try. Compared to last year it was light years ahead in terms of our performance and effort.

Plus for the first time in a while we looked to have some attacking and defence structure. A performance to build on in my eyes.

Injured players have substitutes. Rub of the green and fluke tries explain a 0-24 point collapse in 40 minutes? Last years train wreck is not a benchmark to highlight performance and effort against. Fix the defensive capitulations, win a game.

 

[BroncsFan]

I wonder if we had Seibold as coach and lost a game by going 0-24 in the 2nd half whether the comments would be so positive.

Well it's most likely the 0-24 2nd half would've been following on from a 0-30 first half... so probably not

 

[McHunt]

A couple of stats you mightn't have noticed:

Offloads
TPJ 7
Isaako 2
Milford 2
Niu 1
Mead 1
Riki 1

Tackle Breaks
Isaako 5
Mead 3
Farnworth 2
Riki 2
Carrigan 2
Bullemor 2
Milford 1
Croft 1
TPJ 1
Flegler 1
Te'o 1

 

[Foordy]

Injured players have substitutes. Rub of the green and fluke tries explain a 0-24 point collapse in 40 minutes? Last years train wreck is not a benchmark to highlight performance and effort against. Fix the defensive capitulations, win a game.

good to know that the Storm will struggle this year then ...

 

[Stix]

I liked a lot of what I saw last night from the Broncos. There is still lots of work to do but they already look 100 times better than the way they were last year. Hope Kevvie can build on this now.

 

[lynx000]

Injured players have substitutes. Rub of the green and fluke tries explain a 0-24 point collapse in 40 minutes? Last years train wreck is not a benchmark to highlight performance and effort against. Fix the defensive capitulations, win a game.

Sorry, but that is a completely crap response, and if you had any league knowledge you would know that. It is a 17 man game these days and if you are down to 14 players that will always have an impact particularly towards the end of the game. And yes, being down those players and the rub of the green and Parra having some luck and us getting some bad luck and dodgy calls very much explains the second half.

Farnsworth holds on to that intercept, no one was going to catch him, 6 points there. In my view Turpin scored, 6 points there and Parra probably are not in a position to score at the end.

 

[I bleed Maroon]

1. Isaako - He certainly wasn't terrible, stayed safe under the high ball, was typically awesome with the kicking tee and showed urgency to avoid getting caught in goal, but he still hasn't got a clue about what it takes to be an attacking fullback. Would love to keep him in the side on the wing, but he is definitely a stop gap at the back. 6
2. Mead - I loved what he brought to the side. Ran with intent, always looking for the ball and got himself a try to top it off. Perfectly happy to leave him where he is if nothing else but for his experience, but regardless I thought he was very good. 8
3. Farnworth - One of our best on ground. Always looked dangerous with ball in hand, combined well with his winger and didn't seem to give away much in defence. From this day forward, he is to be known as the magic Herb. 8
4. Niu - He wasn't bad, but he absolutely has a bit of a ball hog habit about him. He might just be still adjusting to the centre role but he needs to get his winger into space as much as possible, and with that brutal step he has there is no reason why he can't. 6
5. Coates - He's in for a big career this young man. Was flying until his injury and combined brilliantly with Milf to get his second. Should probably cut out the try scoring theatrics and I reckon he learned that lesson last night. The wing spot is his to lose. 7
6. Milford - Brilliant first half when everything was going his way, completely MIA when the tide turned. If someone ever wrote a book about Milf's career, the title would surely be "Tale of two halves". 40 minutes of great footy isn't worth a million dollars a year, and if I were Kev, I would be drilling that into his head for the whole year. 6
7. Croft - I'm not gonna shit on him. He played okay. Never had hands on hips despite blowing some opportunities, put in some good grubbers into the in goal which is what I wanted from him and defended decently. He really does need to learn to keep his head in pressure moments and be astute. Happy for him to get another run next week but Dearden hangs over him like a big shadow. 6
8. Pangai Jr - I love what he brings to the side, the problem is he just doesn't bring enough of it. Consistently being gassed after 15 minute stints is not going to be sustainable in the long term, especially with our diabolical injury toll. Hopefully Haas returns and frees up TPJ to play more liberally on the edge, but a long term Prop option he ain't. 7
9. Turpin - My personal MOTM. Stuck in for the full 80 minutes, great service from dummy half and looked to me like he was barking orders at times. A breath of fresh air. If I did have to force out a complaint, I would like to see him take some darts from dummy half more often when the markers are in a shambles. We need to be getting teams backpedaling more often and he is best placed to do that. 9
10. Lodge - I don't have much to say about his ability as a footballer, he always runs the ball back hard and does his best to put in, but sadly it's looking more and more obvious that his body is not up to it. He had something like 2 big hit ups last night before his hammy decided to give way in an innocuous moment. And frankly I don't think our medical/conditioning staff have it in them to get his body right either. Might be time to be getting in his head about homesickness. 5
11. Glenn - I can't recall any particular moment where he impressed me. Maybe he was off screen moving the chess pieces around but otherwise he was too quiet to warrant comment or praise. Can't help but shake the feeling he is just grinding his way to a modest retirement. 5
12. Riki - Considering the hype he saw in the off season, he had a relatively quiet night, which is fine I'm not hanging him for it, he's still young. Played almost a full game and defended well. I'd still like to see his half bring him into the attacking fold a bit better. Get his big frame turning Ash Taylor into smooth peanut butter. 6
13. Carrigan - Honestly not seeing the hype to be honest. Can be very lazy getting out of the ruck which cost us dearly last night and doesn't have much of an effective offload on him. Can totally see TPJ taking the 13 and Carrigan benched before the year is out. 5

14. Asiata - He did exactly what we were expecting him to do. Added a dimension to our attacking options so the other guys can do their own thing. Already looking like a very astute signing, and that is only with a 40 minute showing. If it weren't for his injury he would have been at least a seven. 6
15. Flegler - He remains a perfectly good bench prop option, but that's about it. Knows how to do a decent hit up but also knows how to be completely brain-dead discipline wise. I can see some desperate clubs that are weak up front coming after him with some absurd dollar figures thrown around and in that scenario, he's welcome to explore his options. 6
16. Bullemor - Only saw limited minutes but I liked what I saw. A big, mobile body is exactly what the doctor ordered with this dogshit 6 again rule seemingly not going away. Get him in there when TPJ is off for a spell and you basically lose nothing. 6
17. Te'o - His best performance since his return to the Broncs. He's looking fit, he had a bit of mongrel about him late in the game getting in Ferguson's face, and covered the centre well after the reshuffle. I'm so relieved the most experienced guys left in the side are leading by example. That's all we can ask of them under the circumstances. 7

 

[Morepudding]

I don't think a leader as you described would have helped much in offsetting that horrendous injury toll, however, in general, absolutely spot on.

I am starting to wonder if Asiata will fill that role. I felt we lost direction and a cohesion when he went off. I was impressed with him and feel he should be in the starting 17, at lock and Carrigan to the bench, or prop while Lodge recovers, if in fact he does. Lodge is a real worry. As others observed, I wonder if his body is just unsuited to the way the game is being played now.

Yeah Asiata was great when he was on. Definitely offers a lot more than cardigan. Hopefully without injuries cardigan plays less