Round 1 Lineup

Yep. My thoughts exactly. The playing on the edge would usually be assumed to mean 2nd row. The fact he went on to mention Oates would come in and spend some time playing up the middle due to his large size and making hit ups is intriguing. I think we can safely assume Oates definitely won’t be playing prop.So you could take Kev’s comments about Oates sometimes playing in the middle to mean he will sometimes play a second rowers role, and that the ‘edge’ he was referring too was the actual edge of the field, not the edge of the ruck - ie at wing.

On top of this, Kev and Herbie have confirmed Herbie will be playing centre. Copley hasn’t played wing in years, Isaako has been earmarked for first shot at fullback, Niu has been training in the centres. The only real option left for that vacant wing spot is Mead. It’s possible but Kev has also implied Mead is just around the club to guide the youngsters.

Finally, if you name our best forward rotation and have Macca and Turpin in the team (Kev has said this will be the case, unless of course Macca leaves before round 1), one of Glenn, Oates, or Riki miss out.

I’ve said this before but the only 4 real question marks regarding our round 1 team (barring further injuries) are as follows:

1. Who is Captain?
2. Which forward misses out (likely candidates: Glenn, Oates, Riki)?
2. Who plays left wing?
4. Who fills in for Staggs?

1. Will most likely be Glenn. This means question 2 is narrowed down to either Riki or Oates

2. Oates for all his flaws is an origin player at his best, one of the most experienced players in the team, and can be a key figure if motivated - however he has been a winger most his professional career and is a risk as a second rower. Riki has huge potential, power and class but is green.

3. Farnworth is confirmed at centre, and Isaako likely fullback. This leaves Copley (centre), Kenner (centre), Mead (Kev has mentioned he was brought for depth and mentoring), and Oates. I think the most likely of the options is Mead or Oates. I personally never wanted to see Oates on the wing again but it solves the problem in question #2, and leaves our most experience back in his most familiar position. I think Oates will be “on an edge” as Kev.

4. without being privy to training line ups, I think Niu has been training there and Copley would do a serviceable job.


Round 1 based on the pinboard and strings I’ve fashioned together in my lounge room:

1. Isaako
2. Oates
3. Farnworth
4. Niu
5. Coates
6. Milford
7. Dearden
8. Lodge
9. Macca
10. Haas
11. Glenn (C)
12. TPJ
13. Asiata

14. Turpin
15. Riki
16. Carrigan
17. Flegler

18. Pepe Silvia

Haas and Carrigan will play 50-60 minutes each at prop, with Lodge, Flegler, and TPJ providing rotation. Riki will cover TPJ when he goes to prop / lock. Glenn will play 80. Turpin to provide impact off the bench.

I’ll dig this list up for round 1. Pending unforeseen injuries, suspensions, or transfers I am very confident this will be the round 1 team.
Yep mate you’ve ruled down well... I reckon they will go with Arthars on the wing and keep Oates playing back row. However in saying that just cause you are an experienced winger doesn’t mean you are a good enough second rower to make the 17 so I have Riki over him. Apart from that I have a couple tweaking between starters and bench players in the forward pack

By reports and by a bit of prediction for Arthars this will be the side:
1. Isaako
2. Arthars
3. Farnworth
4. Niu
5. Coates
6. Milford
7. Dearden
8. Carrigan
9. McCullough
10. Haas
11. Glenn
12. Riki
13. Pangai Jnr
14. Turpin
15. Asiata
16. Lodge
17. Flegler
 
I know we have all talked about Asiata at 13 but what if it was:

8. Lodge
9. Turpin (for us to release Macca I think we need more depth here)
10. Haas
11. Glen
12. Pangai/Riki
13. Carrigan/Pangai

14. Fleg
15. Riki/Carrigan
16. Asiata
17. Paix/Macca

ok so hear me out, If pangai started first 20odd on an edge, then shifted to 13 allowing Riki to come on and play out the rest on the edge, Asiata is said to have come because he wanted a start but the cows hwere just as bad last year and couldn't crack the side. Carrigan plays less min.
Asiata wants a start at lock he couldn’t do that at the cows because Taumalolo was in front of him
 
Yep mate you’ve ruled down well... I reckon they will go with Arthars on the wing and keep Oates playing back row. However in saying that just cause you are an experienced winger doesn’t mean you are a good enough second rower to make the 17 so I have Riki over him. Apart from that I have a couple tweaking between starters and bench players in the forward pack

By reports and by a bit of prediction for Arthars this will be the side:
1. Isaako
2. Arthars
3. Farnworth
4. Niu
5. Coates
6. Milford
7. Dearden
8. Carrigan
9. McCullough
10. Haas
11. Glenn
12. Riki
13. Pangai Jnr
14. Turpin
15. Asiata
16. Lodge
17. Flegler
Definitely possible. A few things though is that I don’t think Haas and Carrigan both start if Carrigan is shifted to prop. Both of their strengths is their ability to play big minutes and get through a lot of work so to take advantage they need to be given fairly big stints. This would mean you wouldn’t need to bring on Lodge or Flegler until the 50+ minute mark. Lodge and Flegler are shorter stint impact props. To me it makes sense to have one of each type start.

I really don’t think Oates misses out. He’s just too experienced. Much like Milford, I think Kev will see Oates ceiling and think it’s the coaches job to make him play better. though that very well may be in the forwards.

Asiata came to be a starter. Though I definitely wouldn’t be against TPJ starting at lock with Asiata coming on around 20 minutes in.

That’s just my thinking though, interesting to see what happens.
 
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TPJ will be better for bench, he is definitely way too skilled to be considered a bench player but the way our forwards are he would be a deadly option to have against a tired pack.

I think a 50/50 Lodge Carrigan rotation would work well and Flegs can rest Haas.
 
Anyone been at training and seen how our forwards have been lining up?
There's so many different scenarios in our forwards. not great edge depth but our middle rotation would have to be the best in the league if you forgot last season and went on their talent alone. Move a middle to the edge and our edge looks a lot better. Carrigan anyone? Can play 80, great defensively, and has same late footwork..
Just an inkling that teo will be a lot more involved then people think...
 
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So outs from last season that are basically confirmed are: Boyd, Staggs, Fifita, Haas, Joffa, Milford, etc. I'd argue we are looking at:

1. Isaako
2. Farnworth
3. Arthars
4. Niu
5. Coates
6. Croft
7. Dearden
8. Lodge
9. McCullough (c)
10. Carrigan
11. Glenn
12. Riki
13. Asiata

14. Turpin
15. Flegler
16. TPJ
17. Oates
 
So outs from last season that are basically confirmed are: Boyd, Staggs, Fifita, Haas, Joffa, Milford, etc. I'd argue we are looking at:

1. Isaako
2. Farnworth
3. Arthars
4. Niu
5. Coates
6. Croft
7. Dearden
8. Lodge
9. McCullough (c)
10. Carrigan
11. Glenn
12. Riki
13. Asiata

14. Turpin
15. Flegler
16. TPJ
17. Oates

i'm pretty sure Farnworth has been training exclusively at center, so, i'd expect him to play there with wing between, Mead, Kennar and Arthars

I also expect Milf to be right for round 1.
 
Croft would be favourite to take 6 if Milf isn't fit, but we could go with Asiata. He did play a bit there for the Cows, and we got plenty of Lock/Middle options if need be.
I could be wrong but I don't think KW believes Croft is the worst player to ever play NRL.
 
i'm pretty sure Farnworth has been training exclusively at center, so, i'd expect him to play there with wing between, Mead, Kennar and Arthars

I also expect Milf to be right for round 1.
Mmmm, don't know about Milford being right to go although if they amputated his arms it would only slightly drop his tackling efficiency. I was hoping Kennedy would make the bench.
 
I'm not trying to discredit anyone's attempt at a round 1 lineup, but the fact that a once proud club has has descended into these sort of players is just maddening.
 
I think we've got pretty decent players. I believe they'll surprise.

I reckon they will go better than last year too, for five reasons:

1. They can't do any worse
2. They should never have been so bad, they aren't the worst roster in the league
3. An inanimate carbon rod would have been better than the idiot masquerading as a coach last year BUT that moron has been replaced by a very likable bloke with a squad of excellent assistants, they all actually have a clue
4. Milf is playing for a new contract
5. Some of the deadwood has been cut out already and moved on
 
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1. Isaako
2. Mead
3. Farnworth
4. Niu
5. Coates
6. Croft
7. Dearden
8. Lodge
9. Turpin
10. Flegler
11. Glenn
12. Oates
13. TPJ

14. Paix
15. Carrigan
16. Asiata
17. Riki
 
Or.....

1. Arthars
2. Isaako
3. Niu
4. Farnworth
5. Coates
6. Paix
7. Dearden (C)
8. Carrigan
9. Turpin
10. Flegler
11. Bullemor
12. Riki
13. Oates

14. Croft
15. Lodge
16. Asiata
17. TPJ
 
1. Isaako
2. Mead
3. Farnworth
4. Niu
5. Coates
6. Croft
7. Dearden
8. Lodge
9. Turpin
10. Flegler
11. Glenn
12. Oates
13. TPJ

14. Paix
15. Carrigan
16. Asiata
17. Riki
Isaako - Captain most of the best captains have been goal kickers.
 
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