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Huge

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He did leave for money, otherwise it wouldn't have taken 3 or 4 separate attempts bidding against your own self to sign him.
He's got all the potential in the world though, amazing balance for his strength and size, great acceleration etc. Titans definitely look the better team than the Broncs this year on paper.
When it's your job and you've competing suitors in a bidding war AND your role is basically unchanged most are likely to take the higher wage. In his case the wage hike was truly massive and he gets to live in the same place as he always has (if he chooses to) it's totally understandable. I'm sure I'd have done exactly the same thing.

I kind of did myself on a much smaller scale although I did have to move house. I received a chance to double my previous years wage and eagerly took it with both hands. Like Fifita it turned out to be even more than double my previous p/a.

In Fifita's case he doubtless took the cash but the chance to train in a ultra modern environment, go for a surf or swim, watch magnificent half naked women and play under an exciting young coach who is hitting all the right notes made his decision so so much easier.

I wish him well except for when he plays the Broncos.
 

McHunt

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Maori All Stars coach David Kidwell says Issac Luke has been called into his squad following the Victoria lockdown:

"It’s an opportunity to impress his new coach Kevin Walters. We’re going to have to rely on his experience and darts out of dummy half. We need the best version of Issac Luke to come into camp in North Queensland and give it his best shot. I know how much this jersey means to Issac and he loves representing his people back home as a proud indigenous Maori.”

McHunt
 
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McHunt

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Didn't mean to derail the thread with a massive barney over David Fifita. Let me just sum up everyone's feelings so we can move on:

1. Smart money says David Fifta is the brightest forward talent in the NRL, emerging or otherwise, but disgruntled fans of his previous club disagree.
2. Everything’s all rosy at the broncs, 2021 is our year for sure. (credit tommy tommy ).
 
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pagey

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Didn't mean to derail the thread with a massive barney over David Fifita. Let me just sum up everyone's feelings so we can move on:

1. Smart money says David Fifta is the brightest forward talent in the NRL, emerging or otherwise, but disgruntled fans of his previous club disagree.
2. Everything’s all rosy at the broncs, 2021 is our year for sure. (credit Tommy).
Nah, more like:
1. David Fifita is a huge talent but can he live up to his ridiculous price tag.
2. Broncos had worst season in their history because of a number of issues including huge injury list. Now moving forward after signing one of the best CEO's in the game and a club legend as coach who is implementing structures of the broncos of old. Also moving on some dead wood and building a war chest for a big play in the market of 2022.
 
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Finbar

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The only way we go as bad as we did last year is if Kevvie is even worse at coaching these guys than Seibold was and we have another shocking year with regards to injuries. But I think a team of Kevin Walters, Terry Matterson and John Cartwright seems more formidable than Anthony Seibold, Ben Cross and Peter Gentle. Cartwright even got the Titans to the finals twice, a feat that may never be repeated!
 

I bleed Maroon

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Apr 17, 2013
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The only way we go as bad as we did last year is if Kevvie is even worse at coaching these guys than Seibold was and we have another shocking year with regards to injuries. But I think a team of Kevin Walters, Terry Matterson and John Cartwright seems more formidable than Anthony Seibold, Ben Cross and Peter Gentle. Cartwright even got the Titans to the finals twice, a feat that may never be repeated!

I like the optimism, and yes the coaching team is far, far better now, but the state of the squad and our cap is a big monkey on our backs.
 
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Gaz

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Didn't mean to derail the thread with a massive barney over David Fifita. Let me just sum up everyone's feelings so we can move on:

1. Smart money says David Fifta is the brightest forward talent in the NRL, emerging or otherwise, but disgruntled fans of his previous club disagree.
2. Everything’s all rosy at the broncs, 2021 is our year for sure. (credit Tommy).
He is a beauty and I didn’t want to see him leave us. My hope is that he returns when at his peak.

We need to regain our status to ensure our best players want to stay regardless of what’s being offered elsewhere.

Always trouble for spooners to entice their best to stay when shit clubs are offering top rung of the ladder money when the player is yet to reach that level.

We need our administration to be putting as much effort into our players and on field performance as they have done with our shareholders. Trusting this process starts with our new CEO.
 

Foordy

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We need to regain our status to ensure our best players want to stay regardless of what’s being offered elsewhere.

if we want to go back to those days, we'll need to invent a time machine first ... because in 2021 no player turns down an extra 500k a season
 

McHunt

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if we want to go back to those days, we'll need to invent a time machine first ... because in 2021 no player turns down an extra 500k a season
Speaking of which, in Bennett's day: could the "unders" we were paying have possibly been located "under the table?"
 
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Jason Simmons

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if we want to go back to those days, we'll need to invent a time machine first ... because in 2021 no player turns down an extra 500k a season
Hopefully some better cap management than players like Bird on $975k, (that we didn’t need) $1m on Milford who has never delivered for that money, $800k on Boyd who shouldn’t have even been playing over the last 2 years and ridiculous overs for journeymen like McCullough, Offa, Kahu and so on, means that we could actually match some of the big offers on actual “superstars” and not have to rely on hope that they accept unders to stay with us...

We have the same money to spend officially under the cap as any other club, we just spend it like drunken sailors...

Stupidly.
 

Gaz

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if we want to go back to those days, we'll need to invent a time machine first ... because in 2021 no player turns down an extra 500k a season
'Every man has his price' happened well before the Broncs came about ( try the 1700’s ). But yes being ridiculous has its rewards and also it’s downfalls.
 

PNG Broncos fan88

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Speaking of which, in Bennett's day: could the "unders" we were paying have possibly been located "under the table?"
The fucking board and their fucking coach swap shenanigans - **** them, they will always be responsible for this. Seriously it is going to be extremely difficult to get off bottom place from here on.
Trying my best to be optimistic but just can't see anything but our rookies being rag dolled again this year.
 

Jason Simmons

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The fucking board and their fucking coach swap shenanigans - **** them, they will always be responsible for this. Seriously it is going to be extremely difficult to get off bottom place from here on.
Trying my best to be optimistic but just can't see anything but our rookies being rag dolled again this year.
Yep. Our squad has gone backwards from last year, IMHO...

Hopefully the coaching / conditioning / medical staff can somehow do an astronomically better job than the previous incumbents, or it is looking like another long year to me too...
 

Foordy

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The fucking board and their fucking coach swap shenanigans - **** them, they will always be responsible for this. Seriously it is going to be extremely difficult to get off bottom place from here on.
Trying my best to be optimistic but just can't see anything but our rookies being rag dolled again this year.

Moving on from Bennett was the correct call ... hiring Seibold as his replacement was the wrong call ... although IMO, it may have been beneficial for Kevvie in the long run as following Bennett has always been a poisoned chalice
 

Foordy

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Hopefully some better cap management than players like Bird on $975k, (that we didn’t need) $1m on Milford who has never delivered for that money, $800k on Boyd who shouldn’t have even been playing over the last 2 years and ridiculous overs for journeymen like McCullough, Offa, Kahu and so on, means that we could actually match some of the big offers on actual “superstars” and not have to rely on hope that they accept unders to stay with us...

We have the same money to spend officially under the cap as any other club, we just spend it like drunken sailors...

Stupidly.

matching offers for "superstars" is fine, sometimes ... but matching the offer for Fifita in particular, would have been the same level stupid as the other contracts you mentioned
 

Jason Simmons

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matching offers for "superstars" is fine, sometimes ... but matching the offer for Fifita in particular, would have been the same level stupid as the other contracts you mentioned
I’m not sure matching the Titans offer would have been a good idea either, but I don’t think we’d have had to. If we could have got near the $1m mark, adding $150k a year on top of our reported existing $850k offer, I think that would have been enough to retain him.

If not, well at least we’d have had $1m to throw at other players to boost our overall squad, but due to cap miss-managment we apparently do not have that money, so ifs and buts is all this discussion will remain.
 
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Foordy

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I’m not sure matching the Titans offer would have been a good idea either, but I don’t think we’d have had to. If we could have got near the $1m mark, adding $150k a year on top of our reported existing $850k offer, I think that would have been enough to retain him.

If not, well at least we’d have had $1m to throw at other players to boost our overall squad, but due to cap miss-managment we apparently do not have that money, so ifs and buts is all this discussion will remain.

it probably would have ... but IMO this was not something the club got wrong. the offer we reportedly made him was a fair offer, maybe even slight overs ... getting in to a bidding war with the Titans would have been bad for us (especially if we ended up winning it). any more than we offered would have been that stupid spending you talked about.

on of cap management, knowing the NRL and logic, suggests that we do have cap space available, 2021 was just one of those seasons where there isn't much value in the free agency market. I firmly believe the club are doing the same thing all clubs do when talking about their cap position, crying poor ... i don't recall a single club talk about having heaps of room to move under the cap, it is always a "tight" cap position or "no money", probably because they are weary of those vultures called "Agents"
 

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