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Croft and Milford obviously thought "if you don't put your hand on the player, it doesn't count as a miss. Thank you Boyd-sensei".
Poor Boyd, more then a year on and still trying too hard.
I thought I'd see how many missed tackles Croft and Milford had and it wasn't a huge amount between them after 80 mins, only 4 with Milford 1 and Croft 3. For comparison Harry Grant played 64 minutes at hooker and missed 4. Another interesting fail was Oates who also missed 3 but the bloke you should be looking at is Isaac Luke, he missed 6!!!Milford and Croft’s defence was absolutely disgusting last night. The storm are going to tear us to pieces if we run out with both of them. You can’t afford to have halves who are passengers in defence anymore. Dearden and Paix have both shown themselves to be good defenders. I agree that it would be unfair on them to put them both in at the same time, but I think you need to drop one of Milford or Croft. We might be able to cover 1 liability in defence instead of 2.
I thought I'd see how many missed tackles Croft and Milford had and it wasn't a huge amount between them after 80 mins, only 4 with Milford 1 and Croft 3. For comparison Harry Grant played 64 minutes at hooker and missed 4. Another interesting fail was Oates who also missed 3 but the bloke you should be looking at is Isaac Luke, he missed 6!!!
It's no surprise that small halves are going to miss tackles, especially in the rain. It's the lack of leadership and creativity that's much more of a problem and they didn't do that last night. At 22 Croft is still learning but Milford doesn't have that excuse. There's plenty of blame to go round. The combined missed tackles were 30 to the Tigers 19.
Yeah? Well I'm tired of fake claims. When people have agendas or want to single out a player/s and ignore others they often make shit up so I just want some balance. If you( collective you ) are going to talk about missed tackles and poor defence you should mention all the players with poor stats.I’m a bit sick of seeing you rely only on stats when talking about player performance. Croft missed one key tackle on Leilua that led to a try, and made another poor defensive decision that led to Walters putting Leilua over.
Milford was lazy at marker and let Harry Grant basically walk it over. Haas was also responsible here.
Stats are completely useless if you don’t take into account the context of the game.
Even if you just throw out the defensive side of the argument, throw out the halves, throw out the coaching.
What the **** has happened to our forward pack? Like, I know we've got key injuries, but this forward pack loses every week, regardless of who's there. Not only do they lose the grind, they get absolutely spanked. Flegler has gone from a possible Origin candidate to someone who wouldn't make a first grade side at any other club. Haas has gone from the greatest prop in the NRL and a future immortal to a defensive liability that struggles to make any impact with or without the ball. Glenn was a complete shadow of himself prior to his injury. Ofahengaue has gone from an origin incumbent to someone pretty much all of us can't wait to see the back of. Lodge (after his injury) was making Martin Kennedy's impact look not-so-bad.
The only forwards who haven't completely disrespected the club in the last 8 weeks are Carrigan & Pangai Jr. I thank them for their continued efforts and genuinely wish the rest of these kids had as much will to win as those 2 do every week.
Look, I can't agree about Haas, no way. Well, not that he's a defensive liability!! You say you watch every game and never miss a thing weel, how on earth can you claim that about Haas. He made 59 tackles and only missed two on a wet night in a team flogged 48 nil!!!!!!!!!! How many other props play 80 minutes? Add to that he made more metres than TPJ from three fewer runs. I know he wasn't and hasn't been as good this year but, be fair!Even if you just throw out the defensive side of the argument, throw out the halves, throw out the coaching.
What the **** has happened to our forward pack? Like, I know we've got key injuries, but this forward pack loses every week, regardless of who's there. Not only do they lose the grind, they get absolutely spanked. Flegler has gone from a possible Origin candidate to someone who wouldn't make a first grade side at any other club. Haas has gone from the greatest prop in the NRL and a future immortal to a defensive liability that struggles to make any impact with or without the ball. Glenn was a complete shadow of himself prior to his injury. Ofahengaue has gone from an origin incumbent to someone pretty much all of us can't wait to see the back of. Lodge (after his injury) was making Martin Kennedy's impact look not-so-bad.
The only forwards who haven't completely disrespected the club in the last 8 weeks are Carrigan & Pangai Jr. I thank them for their continued efforts and genuinely wish the rest of these kids had as much will to win as those 2 do every week.
I stopped tipping altogether just so I didn’t have to tip against us. Also because I’ve stopped caring about 80% of the games. The rules have almost killed it for meI may tip against us for the first time ever
Huh?He played 80 minutes last night! Reduced his minutes? What, from overused to a level that matches the competitions longest playing front rowers? Jesus, you just can't be wrong about anything can you?You can tell which people don't pay a whole lot of attention to games, heh.
Haas has been a liability defensively at stages for quite a while, do you guys not remember his defensive errors costing us multiple games last season? I certainly do.
I'm quite sure that's why Seibold has reduced his minutes over the last month or so. I'm not sure whether the defensive mistakes are due to fatigue, coaching, or some other variable, but, they've cost us points numerous times over the last 18 months.
As I've said at other times though, he's one of the only forwards willing to put his hand up for a run in most sets, so it's hard to blame him too much. If you look at how many runs guys like Ofahengaue & Flegler take each game it's genuinely sad. I can't explain what's happened to them.
Huh?He played 80 minutes last night! Reduced his minutes? What, from overused to a level that matches the competitions longest playing front rowers? Jesus, you just can't be wrong about anything can you?
Yes, it is amazing how someone can be so wrong yet so certain they're right. That's you @Unbreakable, just for clarity.You can tell which people don't pay a whole lot of attention to games, heh.
Haas has been a liability defensively at stages for quite a while, do you guys not remember his defensive errors costing us multiple games last season? I certainly do.
I'm quite sure that's why Seibold has reduced his minutes over the last month or so. I'm not sure whether the defensive mistakes are due to fatigue, coaching, or some other variable, but, they've cost us points numerous times over the last 18 months.
As I've said at other times though, he's one of the only forwards willing to put his hand up for a run in most sets, so it's hard to blame him too much. If you look at how many runs guys like Ofahengaue & Flegler take each game it's genuinely sad. I can't explain what's happened to them.
And once again, WRONG. Jesus, you are so narcissistic!!He only played 80 last night because our starting edge back rowers played 90 minutes combined. That's unheard of.
If you look at his minutes over the prior month he didn't even get close to 80 minutes once. Just need to open your eyes and have a look big fella. Not difficult.
Also, not my stat. Take it up with the compiler. You are clearly wrong and as soon as it's exposed you attack my age. Sad, narcissist.The guy who vehemently argued that Boyd is the 2nd best centre defensively in the NRL because he doesn't miss many tackles is now doing the same with Haas using literally the same method, lmao.
I thought old people were good at learning from their mistakes.