PRE-GAME Round 11 - Roosters vs Broncos

[Skyblues87]

Just because we got toweled up last week doesn't make him a shit winger, Corey Oates would be a first choice winger for a lot of clubs in the NRL

He has played origins, scored tries in bucket loads at times, made some big carries, some big defensive plays, he does everything you'd want a top quality winger to do, spare me this bullshit about being shit for the last 3 years. We have many of players who have been shit, he ain't one of them

The problem is his ball security.

 

[BroncosFever]

Can't see Milford coming back to the Broncs now, dropped twice in the final year of his contract

 

[Fitzy]

Just because we got toweled up last week doesn't make him a shit winger, Corey Oates would be a first choice winger for a lot of clubs in the NRL

He has played origins, scored tries in bucket loads at times, made some big carries, some big defensive plays, he does everything you'd want a top quality winger to do, spare me this bullshit about being shit for the last 3 years. We have many of players who have been shit, he ain't one of them

First choice my ass:
Coates
To'o
Staines
Tupou
Morris
Addo-Carr
Feldt
Thompson
Don
Maumalo
Edrick
Ravalawa
Ramsey
Rapan
Valemi
Simmonson
Ferguson
Sivo
Mansour
Paulo
Johnston
Gagai (predominantly centre but still better winger)
Graham (predominantly centre but still better winger)
Saab
Garrick
Nofaluma
Talau (50/50 but he has youth on his side)
Hymel Hunt (50/50)
Mulitalo

Only team he's making first choice is bloody Bulldogs and he has a couple teams in the bottom 6 he could possibly make. Look at that list and tell me why we should be sticking with him long term considering he was playing origin a couple years back

 

[Huge]

Can't see Milford coming back to the Broncs now, dropped twice in the final year of his contract

I agree especially in light of the KW comments about Brisbane's lack of nrl quality in the halves since, well a long time ago.

 

[Wolfie]

Where has this Vunivalu crap come from? He’s on 7-800k in Union, we wouldn’t be offering half that.

He wont be coming here. We have bigger problems to fix than paying 600k+ on a winger.

 

[scobie]

I think just how he plays and what he brings is more suited to coming off the bench tbh. Him coming on with his speed and footwork against tired players if we use him right could be devastating.

I agree but the issue then is we're normally down by 20+ when he gets on the field and the game is basically over.

 

[WASSHHH]

Like I seriously don’t see why people are complaining about Hynes like **** me dead not understanding that... same with Vunivalu complaining about his character like **** me we need to win footy games a just cause he drunkenly got at it with a male security (better than some of the drop kicks we got doing it to females) and one flying leg which was brain snap you want to say **** quality players... this is the best we are gonna do and you guys continually whinge like genuinely **** me dead... we are coming second last and you reckon Reynolds and Brenko is gonna fix this... even if we get Hynes we still got a shithouse winger in Oates to replace

Mate, I mean this is the nicest way possible, but you need to relax or you’ll give yourself an aneurysm. I can see the steam coming out your ears from here.

As fans we are all hurting, but there is literally nothing we can do to change it, so it’s hardly worth getting all worked up about

Peace.

 

[Super Freak]

Sign Levi who could have actually been a good cheapy signing.
Give him **** all minutes and barely use him.
Drop him after 4 games.

Nice one. Not only that, but dropping Oates as well. Does Kevvie even have a fucking plan? It doesn't look like it.

 

[broncsgoat]

Sign Levi who could have actually been a good cheapy signing.
Give him **** all minutes and barely use him.
Drop him after 4 games.

Nice one. Not only that, but dropping Oates as well. Does Kevvie even have a fucking plan? It doesn't look like it.

It’s a weird one. Keep Turpin off to give Levi some minutes last week.
Who for? His fucking ISC team? It’s getting a bit fucking weird

 

[Fitzy]

Mate, I mean this is the nicest way possible, but you need to relax or you’ll give yourself an aneurysm. I can see the steam coming out your ears from here.

As fans we are all hurting, but there is literally nothing we can do to change it, so it’s hardly worth getting all worked up about

Peace.

There’s a lot we can do about it... what’s getting me pissed off is everyone who reckons we shouldn’t... like are we not sick of losing and we got people freaking out about nicho Hynes and Suliasi Vunivalu possibly joining

 

[McHunt]

Sign Levi who could have actually been a good cheapy signing.
Give him **** all minutes and barely use him.
Drop him after 4 games.

Nice one. Not only that, but dropping Oates as well. Does Kevvie even have a fucking plan? It doesn't look like it.

He seems to be trying everyone out. He brought Levi on early last week for some mysterious reason, and left him on for some other mysterious reason he wouldn't answer in the presser. Whatever the reason, and whatever he uncovered about Levi, he saw enough to flick him back to the reserves.

I get the impression Kevvie is doing a test drive of everyone on the roster to see who he can turf out.

Yet Xavier Coates who had a deadset shocker against Manly - and who he doesn't need to test drive - keeps his place.

 

[theshed]

He seems to be trying everyone out. He brought Levi on early last week for some mysterious reason, and left him on for some other mysterious reason he wouldn't answer in the presser. Whatever the reason, and whatever he uncovered about Levi, he saw enough to flick him back to the reserves.

I get the impression Kevvie is doing a test drive of everyone on the roster to see who he can turf out.

Yet Xavier Coates who had a deadset shocker against Manly - and who he doesn't need to test drive - keeps his place.

Yeah Kev looks like a guy who has never coached a season of NRL before. He’s using an origin approach to team lists. Picks who he thinks will win this week, instead of building combinations and foundations as the season progresses.

 

[winslow_wong]

It’s a weird one. Keep Turpin off to give Levi some minutes last week.
Who for? His fucking ISC team? It’s getting a bit fucking weird

Yeah turpin as captain got hooked after 30 minutes. I guess because he wasn’t on the field, he can’t be blamed for the massacre that occurred? Makes no sense to me either.

 

[Harry Sack]

I just don't understand dropping Oates tbh.

 

[Huge]

Yeah Kev looks like a guy who has never coached a season of NRL before. He’s using an origin approach to team lists. Picks who he thinks will win this week, instead of building combinations and foundations as the season progresses.

I admit it looks like that on the surface but what if the plan IS to do this ?
Realistically KW started with the costliest player first, he gave Milford a fair chance and Milford absolutely had no doubt or confusion whatsoever about the opportunity. He knew he was being tested and graded. He knew it was all on the line to get a contract somewhere.

He gave him 5 games.
He moved on to Croft and Dearden. Tried them out. They largely failed too. Milford begged(I believe, don't know) for another chance and went okay in ISC and got one more chance. Failed again. So Dearden is out the door and I'd say KW was aware he was long odds on to leave. So he's got Croft left. Okay, KW figures, nothing left to test in these three, let's start testing the next lot.

Croft is now out injured so Gamble stays because he probably listens and values his chance. He's in the test bed stage still. Next test subject Kelly, let's see what's left in the tank. If he fails I don't see KW turning to Dearden or Milford again so if this pairing perish then I think KW has been give permission to keep on testing.

I think the club identified that this year was like Boca Chica, a testing ground. KW was probably more optimistic than the club I think. He probably thought he could turn the club around to at least 8th but I think the bosses knew better yet hoped KW might fluke it.

I will not be surprised if we see a few surprise guest test subjects over the next 13/14 weeks. I hope Isaako gets a shot just so I can be King Toldyaso from the Shire Of Ipswich

 

[Dexter]

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Just seems a bit harsh to me. He got dropped, showed a great attitude and has put the effort in and been solid in the games he's played.

Is he worth 500k though.
No doubt his effort has been there but he still makes the mistake of jamming in at exactly the wrong time and he is slow as ****. Mead was doing a good job of making metres before he was dropped I thought.
Also, every half in the comp would have noted how easy it is to get his winger away because Oates can't turn and accelerate. I can see why Kev dropped him.

 

[Mightybroncs2k17]

If we are going to be honest a halves pairing of Gamble and Kelly is absolutely terrifying and realistically a combination we should have never seen in first grade.

However in saying that, I'm a massive fan of picking players on form and Kelly appears to be the form halfback in ISC with 12 try assist and i think 6 line break assits. He does also bring some experience, the question is can he continue his ISC form at NRL level.

Both he and gamble will likely show more heart than any other halves on our books. Gamble seems to organise well and kelly hopefully bring more a running/attacking threat then milf.

What's Kellys kicking game like can anyone offer any insight?

 

[theshed]

I admit it looks like that on the surface but what if the plan IS to do this ?
Realistically KW started with the costliest player first, he gave Milford a fair chance and Milford absolutely had no doubt or confusion whatsoever about the opportunity. He knew he was being tested and graded. He knew it was all on the line to get a contract somewhere.

He gave him 5 games.
He moved on to Croft and Dearden. Tried them out. They largely failed too. Milford begged(I believe, don't know) for another chance and went okay in ISC and got one more chance. Failed again. So Dearden is out the door and I'd say KW was aware he was long odds on to leave. So he's got Croft left. Okay, KW figures, nothing left to test in these three, let's start testing the next lot.

Croft is now out injured so Gamble stays because he probably listens and values his chance. He's in the test bed stage still. Next test subject Kelly, let's see what's left in the tank. If he fails I don't see KW turning to Dearden or Milford again so if this pairing perish then I think KW has been give permission to keep on testing.

I think the club identified that this year was like Boca Chica, a testing ground. KW was probably more optimistic than the club I think. He probably thought he could turn the club around to at least 8th but I think the bosses knew better yet hoped KW might fluke it.

I will not be surprised if we see a few surprise guest test subjects over the next 13/14 weeks. I hope Isaako gets a shot just so I can be King Toldyaso from the Shire Of Ipswich

I think you’re right to an extent. I think Kev is throwing shit at a wall and hoping at least one of these duds shows some ability before Staggs returns so they can partner him for the rest of the season. Might have been why he gave Levi 55 minutes. He’s trying to find the best spine to drop Staggs into for this season.

That’s my guess anyway.