Round 14 Discussion
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NRL referees boss Tony Archer has blamed senior bunker official Jared Maxwell for the refereeing howler that resulted in Akuila Uate's match-sealing try in Manly's win over Newcastle.
Uate was immediately awarded a critical try midway through the second half by referee Ashley Klein, despite his touch judge asking for the decision to be sent to the bunker on Friday.
Replays later showed that Uate had dropped the ball over the line, before the Sea Eagles held off a fast-finishing Knights to claim a closely-fought 18-14 win.
Late on Friday night, Archer revealed Maxwell had bizarrely bypassed the video review process and informed Klein that the grounding was good.
"Having reviewed the play and the process followed by the officials, it is clear that the touch judge requested that the decision should be referred," Archer said.
"Prior to the referee having the opportunity to refer the play, the senior review official intervened and advised that it was a try. Based on this advice, the referee then awarded the try.
"The actions of the senior review official to intervene are contrary to the current policy and also resulted in an incorrect decision."
The incident is certain to raise questions over how often referees are advised by the bunker before opting to send the decision to be reviewed.
Prior to Archer's explanation, Knights coach Nathan Brown was at a loss to explain why Klein had declined to ask for a replay.
"You watch the TV and you watch the touch judge. That's why he stood back, he didn't go to the tryline, he stood back and told him," Brown said.
"You watch him mouth it out, 'Just check the grounding'."
Sea Eagles coach Trent Barrett admitted his team were lucky to escape with the two points, but claimed Uate was incorrectly robbed of a separate try moments earlier.
The former Knights winger was denied a four-pointer after it was ruled he interfered with an airborne Brendan Elliot on a Blake Green kick that Uate chased down and scored.
"Look, we were lucky. Some weeks you get them," Barrett said.
"I thought the try before it, when he ruled Choc interfered with the catcher, I thought that was a fair try. And then the other one obviously he dropped it. In the end it was a bit even-stevens."
Uate insisted he should have been awarded both tries, including the matchwinner.
"I knew I couldn't get to the ball so I just went up for a contest. He touched it first, so I scored that try," he said of the first incident.
"I don't think it was a knock-on, the next one I scored. It looks loose, but I still had my hands on the ball. It was a try. I don't know what they're talking about."
Read more at http://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/06/10/03/32/archer-blames-bunker-for-uate-howler#eMUJFCl7s1qT3u46.99
Uate was immediately awarded a critical try midway through the second half by referee Ashley Klein, despite his touch judge asking for the decision to be sent to the bunker on Friday.
Replays later showed that Uate had dropped the ball over the line, before the Sea Eagles held off a fast-finishing Knights to claim a closely-fought 18-14 win.
Late on Friday night, Archer revealed Maxwell had bizarrely bypassed the video review process and informed Klein that the grounding was good.
"Having reviewed the play and the process followed by the officials, it is clear that the touch judge requested that the decision should be referred," Archer said.
"Prior to the referee having the opportunity to refer the play, the senior review official intervened and advised that it was a try. Based on this advice, the referee then awarded the try.
"The actions of the senior review official to intervene are contrary to the current policy and also resulted in an incorrect decision."
The incident is certain to raise questions over how often referees are advised by the bunker before opting to send the decision to be reviewed.
Prior to Archer's explanation, Knights coach Nathan Brown was at a loss to explain why Klein had declined to ask for a replay.
"You watch the TV and you watch the touch judge. That's why he stood back, he didn't go to the tryline, he stood back and told him," Brown said.
"You watch him mouth it out, 'Just check the grounding'."
Sea Eagles coach Trent Barrett admitted his team were lucky to escape with the two points, but claimed Uate was incorrectly robbed of a separate try moments earlier.
The former Knights winger was denied a four-pointer after it was ruled he interfered with an airborne Brendan Elliot on a Blake Green kick that Uate chased down and scored.
"Look, we were lucky. Some weeks you get them," Barrett said.
"I thought the try before it, when he ruled Choc interfered with the catcher, I thought that was a fair try. And then the other one obviously he dropped it. In the end it was a bit even-stevens."
Uate insisted he should have been awarded both tries, including the matchwinner.
"I knew I couldn't get to the ball so I just went up for a contest. He touched it first, so I scored that try," he said of the first incident.
"I don't think it was a knock-on, the next one I scored. It looks loose, but I still had my hands on the ball. It was a try. I don't know what they're talking about."
Read more at http://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/06/10/03/32/archer-blames-bunker-for-uate-howler#eMUJFCl7s1qT3u46.99
- Jan 25, 2014
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So the bunker intervened when it wasn't supposed to.. I wonder how much that actually happens.
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Well let's face it as if he was going to admit he knocked it on
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Haha you would think if it was inconclusive that would be the case but THIS is blatantly obvious for all and sundry. He should just laugh about it and move on.
Why is nothing ever actually The on-field refs fault according to Archer?
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Because "the process is correct."
Although in this case, the process wasn't correct as the bunker is not supposed to intervene. Klein should have followed the opinion of his touchie, which I think he is actually supposed to do (I'm pretty sure there is a rule in there that says that), and went upstairs.
But even if the refs **** up, Archer will do nothing.
There is absolutely no accountability in that department. Perhaps I should become a ref, I would love a job where I don't have to worry about fucking up and being sacked.
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Depends on which team you **** up against
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Can't really blame Klein if he gets advised from the bunker that the try is good, which is what he was going to refer to anyway.
Like Archer said, in this case Maxwell definitely screwed the pooch, but I really can't fathom why!
The knock on is pretty clear in the replays, and if he hadn't seen the replays, why did he intervene?
Like Archer said, in this case Maxwell definitely screwed the pooch, but I really can't fathom why!
The knock on is pretty clear in the replays, and if he hadn't seen the replays, why did he intervene?
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Unless your decision against the commentators.
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ABC grandstand said today that according to Archer, it is NOT the process for the video refs to intervene before the on field ref calls on them and as such Maxwell has been dropped.
having said that, it has apparantly been happening all season, and the only reason we know about it is due to the monumental **** up and not even Archer can try to spin that into being the correct decision (which is his usual MO)
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Titans wearing their old 2007 jerseys.
If that's happened then I want to know who was in the box when we got denied a fair try against Melbourne and when Manly scored of the blatant forward pass and when Moylan was given that try against us....
