PRE-GAME Round 18 - Broncos vs Warriors

[Morkel]

We’re in a position to let Isaako have time off to heal properly.

 

[pagey]

If Isaako is injured, I’d love to see:

1. Boyd
2. Oates
3. Roberts
4. Staggs
5. Kahu
6. Milford
7. KNik (he’s starting to show something)
8. Lodge
9. Macca
10. Thaiday
11. TPJ
12. Su’A
13. Joffa

14. Turpin
15. McGuire
16. Sims
17. Glenn

He showed he can backup well but that's about it imo he is struggling to take that next step.

 

[Sproj]

He showed he can backup well but that's about it imo he is struggling to take that next step.

You mean KNik? Yeah he is absolutely struggling to take that next step, no doubt about that. He’s been woeful as a halfback at times but there are just some signs starting to show that the improvement, although slow, is there.

The team has been winning ugly and yesterday finally clicked, hopefully this helps that improvement speed up.

I also do think crisp service from the dummy half certainly helped these guys be that little bit more slick as well.

 

[Foordy]

You mean KNik? Yeah he is absolutely struggling to take that next step, no doubt about that. He’s been woeful as a halfback at times but there are just some signs starting to show that the improvement, although slow, is there.

The team has been winning ugly and yesterday finally clicked, hopefully this helps that improvement speed up.

I also do think crisp service from the dummy half certainly helped these guys be that little bit more slick as well.

I'd be holding off on thinking he is showing improvement until he does something against a team that wasn't woeful ... like the Titans were yesterday

 

[ZTop]

Pearson instead of Kahu and Glenn starting over TPJ and I'm on board. (Staggs can kick goals, don't need Kahu)

Kahu can kick goals too.

 

[Nashy]

Kahu can kick goals too.

He literally covered that in his post.

 

[ZTop]

He literally covered that in his post.

Where

 

[Foordy]

Where

last 7 words

 

[Renegade]

It does happen a fair bit with the younger guys. They start well and all of a sudden we can dump proven players. I'm astounded this year the amount of people that want to offload Glenn. He has been consistently good all year.

I'm on board with you there - Glenn is everything you want in a player, fairly consistent, low maintenance, relatively cheap. Has experience but isn't the wrong side of 30.

Having said that, in the next couple of years we will need to make tough decisions with regards to phasing out some players in order to keep the ones we've got coming through, assuming the ones coming through continue to develop. Glenn may be in that bracket. Gillett I think too.

 

[Foordy]

I'm on board with you there - Glenn is everything you want in a player, fairly consistent, low maintenance, relatively cheap. Has experience but isn't the wrong side of 30.

Having said that, in the next couple of years we will need to make tough decisions with regards to phasing out some players in order to keep the ones we've got coming through, assuming the ones coming through continue to develop. Glenn may be in that bracket. Gillett I think too.

true ... but they're not there yet ... if we keep them for the next couple of season's, the young brigade (assuming we keep them) will be ready to take over.

 

[Renegade]

true ... but they're not there yet ... if we keep them for the next couple of season's, the young brigade (assuming we keep them) will be ready to take over.

By the end of 2020, again assuming the players continue to develop, I don't see a place for the two aforementioned. Gillett perhaps even moreso than Glenn, as I don't think we've really missed a beat without him.

 

[ZTop]

last 7 words

"Staggs can kick goals, don't need Kahu"
Does not technically state that Kahu kicks goals

 

[Renegade]

"Staggs can kick goals, don't need Kahu"
Does not technically state that Kahu kicks goals

what? kahu was kicking before he got injured. wouldn't that be enough proof lol

 

[Battler]

Isn’t Su’a a left side player playing on the right? I reckon we’re missing a bit with Gillett, primarily because we’ve had to play TPJ on an edge. He’s playing extremely well there, but just imagine our middle with TPJ in the rotation and no Mago, who has been good but not great. His experience and leadership would be valuable as well as his combo with Niko which was good last season.

 

[Foordy]

"Staggs can kick goals, don't need Kahu"
Does not technically state that Kahu kicks goals

clearly that was the intention of that statement, especially given that Kahu was the number 1 kicker last year and this year before his injury

 

[Renegade]

Isn’t Su’a a left side player playing on the right? I reckon we’re missing a bit with Gillett, primarily because we’ve had to play TPJ on an edge. He’s playing extremely well there, but just imagine our middle with TPJ in the rotation and no Mago, who has been good but not great. His experience and leadership would be valuable as well as his combo with Niko which was good last season.

I think Mago might be an ese'ese, hangs around for a year or two and plays ok and then gets a decent contract elsewhere. Good for him if so, but there's still a logjam. Not downplaying Gilletts ability at all, just that if you lose a player for the best part of a year and his spot is taken by a young gun that renders his lose minimal, perhaps you need to think of the future.

Lodge
Mcguire
TPJ
Glenn
Gillett
Haas
Fifita
Sims
Mago
Ofa
Sua
Carrigan

Three of those forwards won't make the bench next year. Suppose you can easily say well, Mago, Sims and Carrigan. Then you've gotta take into account players like Staggs who've basically done everything asked of them and more in their short time. Are people like S'ua going to be happy playing off the bench for another 2 years when they've got clubs like Souths after them for money and a starting spot? conversely, are players like Glenn and Gillett going to be happy playing off the bench when they're internationals in their prime? maybe glenn, but would gillett?

 

[mrslong]

FFS, talking about getting rid of Gillett is like Souths fans talking about getting rid of SBurgess when he gets injured.
When healthy he's the best player in his position, how bout we keep him.

 

[Socnorb]

You mean KNik? Yeah he is absolutely struggling to take that next step, no doubt about that. He’s been woeful as a halfback at times but there are just some signs starting to show that the improvement, although slow, is there.

The team has been winning ugly and yesterday finally clicked, hopefully this helps that improvement speed up.

I also do think crisp service from the dummy half certainly helped these guys be that little bit more slick as well.

and the fact that our forward pack was an unstoppable rolling juggernaut.