POST GAME Round 21 - Cowboys vs Broncos

Jedhead

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So what happens if the ref says, “I’ve go no idea if it touched the ground” and the video doesn’t show it either? Try or No Try?
It's whatever the ref sent it up as. They must make that decision (and often they have no clue) when sending it to the bunker. Either making a 'T' with their arms or an 'x' across their chest.
 

johnyE

U18 Player
That was a pathetic performance but happy to beat the Cowgirls like that.

We were seriously disgraceful.
Yes Dee we win ugly , but the promise of these young forwards does excite me a little and gives me hope . Johns comments about no halves involvement ,no backing up supporting the ball carrier , standing flat ,is where Siebs needs to work on . Some 1/2s and 3/4 's would be nice to get a good running game going as well , but the standing around in a bunch with no apparent idea of what happens next which Joey eluded to , is about training that into them . A very talented roster ,very underdone . Turpin led by example at the death ,effort on effort , I only wish it was against Melbourne , but the Cowgirls at home was sweet.
 

I bleed Maroon

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Darius Boyd's stunning stats from last night.

80 minutes.
1 run
1 run metre
2 missed tackles
14 kick metres
I dunno if I can take much more of this shit. This is embarrassing to the club to have the captain dishing up this sort of trash and yet seems to be completely impervious to any action by the coaching staff whatsoever. One player seems to have a gun to the head of the whole club. Drop his fucking ass.
 

NSW stables

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It's ridiculous, who wants to watch wet sloppy footy. Fast, dry track is what people want.
Not necessarily drenching the field but tailoring to your teams game plan. I mean if any surface modification helped us beat the storm i would consider it.

Personally, yeah, i prefer a dry track, but if it was in your teams best interest and you needed the win, i can see why someone would
 

BroncsFan

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So what happens if the ref says, “I’ve go no idea if it touched the ground” and the video doesn’t show it either? Try or No Try?
But he would though... the ball is either on the ground or not by the time they blow the whistle.

So he would say I've got vision of the ball on the ground but check he's maintained it through to grounding.

OR

I've got the ball held up check if he's grounded that beforehand.

In last night's game I'm guessing he would've said check how it comes out and check he controls it through to grounding but I've got a try.

What happens
- Clifford has a hand on the ball which could constitute playing at it when it comes loose
- Shiba gets taken slightly high
- Wright juggles it and multiple camera angles show it potentially touches Opacic who's in front of him (accidental offside)

Gets sent up as a try they give it if it gets sent up as no try they don't give it.

There's so many times when they just blindly take the on field ref because he has to call try or no try.

The dragons last week got one when Widdop clearly knocked it on contesting the ball, but it was sent up a try so the bunker scrambles to come up with some ridiculous excuse to agree with the on field ref.

Even in origin McGuire's try was a massive double movement, but given a try on field we'll give it a try then.

The bunker only seems to overrule when it's absolutely blatant (Turps last night) or sometimes it appears to happen in order to keep the game tight (Maumalo being denied an obvious try a few weeks back as warriors starting running away with it)
 

ivanhungryjak

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I am 100% sure that at some stage since the introduction of the video ref and then the rule that he has to make an on field call, the ref hasn’t had a clue whether a ball has touched the ground or not but has had to guess because he has to make a call.
 

winslow_wong

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I dunno if I can take much more of this shit. This is embarrassing to the club to have the captain dishing up this sort of trash and yet seems to be completely impervious to any action by the coaching staff whatsoever. One player seems to have a gun to the head of the whole club. Drop his fucking ass.
Was his one run out from dummy half as well? Makes it all the more pathetic
 

Wolfie

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But he would though... the ball is either on the ground or not by the time they blow the whistle.

So he would say I've got vision of the ball on the ground but check he's maintained it through to grounding.

OR

I've got the ball held up check if he's grounded that beforehand.

In last night's game I'm guessing he would've said check how it comes out and check he controls it through to grounding but I've got a try.

What happens
- Clifford has a hand on the ball which could constitute playing at it when it comes loose
- Shiba gets taken slightly high
- Wright juggles it and multiple camera angles show it potentially touches Opacic who's in front of him (accidental offside)

Gets sent up as a try they give it if it gets sent up as no try they don't give it.

There's so many times when they just blindly take the on field ref because he has to call try or no try.

The dragons last week got one when Widdop clearly knocked it on contesting the ball, but it was sent up a try so the bunker scrambles to come up with some ridiculous excuse to agree with the on field ref.

Even in origin McGuire's try was a massive double movement, but given a try on field we'll give it a try then.

The bunker only seems to overrule when it's absolutely blatant (Turps last night) or sometimes it appears to happen in order to keep the game tight (Maumalo being denied an obvious try a few weeks back as warriors starting running away with it)
Just scrap the video ref. We still get plenty of errors with one, so lets just live with human error from the on field refs and get on with it.
 

pagey

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Not necessarily drenching the field but tailoring to your teams game plan. I mean if any surface modification helped us beat the storm i would consider it.

Personally, yeah, i prefer a dry track, but if it was in your teams best interest and you needed the win, i can see why someone would
I know what you're saying but it would just even out when you play away games. At least if you have the best conditions you get the best chance to watch exciting games, and the better team wins.
 

Super Freak

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I'll take the decision to the board.

Did Gela-Mosby also push Milford with his hands off the ball?
I've looked at it a million times and I just can't see a push from Gela-Mosby. He puts his hands on Milford but there was no pushing motion. He was just coming in to tackle Milford.

Some could probably argue he was holding Milford down after the first scramble for the ball, but I don't think so.
 

BroncsFan

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Just scrap the video ref. We still get plenty of errors with one, so lets just live with human error from the on field refs and get on with it.
It can't happen now... they would've given Turps his first try last night and there would've been chaos from the media.... Paul Green's head would explode at the first chance
 

Big Pete

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I've looked at it a million times and I just can't see a push from Gela-Mosby. He puts his hands on Milford but there was no pushing motion. He was just coming in to tackle Milford.

Some could probably argue he was holding Milford down after the first scramble for the ball, but I don't think so.
Alright I'll take your word for it.

When players are competing for the football, are they allowed to lay their hands on another player before they get possession? I thought they could only use their shoulders while maintaining a line to the ball.

I'm still not 100% sold on Gela-Mosby getting a touch on it after Milford, but Gavin Badger was standing right over it and had the best vantage point. I'd be happy to give the referees the benefit of the doubt there.
 

Maddy1to9

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What's with Locky writing an article in CM about the "Broncos hopes rest on Boyd"? Are you serious Locky? I know you're lenient and bias towards your mate, Boyd but it has to stop. He has become untouchable purely based on instructions from VERY few people like you. It (your loyalty and backing) alone, has got Boyd this far and he's literally screwing up the club.
If he's hanging around the club for next 2 seasons, believe me, he will greatly impact NEGATIVELY on the development, morale, attitude, leadership and every fuckin quality that the team should learn.

I still treat you as GOD Locky and I so wish you play forever for Broncos with no age factor. Please STOP writing this kind of articles about Boyd. He has become a laughing stock and has over stayed in this team for nearly 2 years. The worst part of it to yet to come is - he still have 2 more years. That's the worst nightmare and agony of Broncos loyals.

As a director of the club, please take the lead in convincing Boyd retire in the off-season and do us all a huge favor.
 

Xzei

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Problem with scrapping the video ref is nein and fox replaying every ref error and commentators getting on their soap boxes
 

Wolfie

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It can't happen now... they would've given Turps his first try last night and there would've been chaos from the media.... Paul Green's head would explode at the first chance
I'd actually rather see mistakes made by refs without the help of the bunker. All adds to the drama of the game. Plus anything that would make greens head explode can't be a bad thing.
 

Super Freak

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Alright I'll take your word for it.

When players are competing for the football, are they allowed to lay their hands on another player before they get possession? I thought they could only use their shoulders while maintaining a line to the ball.

I'm still not 100% sold on Gela-Mosby getting a touch on it after Milford, but Gavin Badger was standing right over it and had the best vantage point. I'd be happy to give the referees the benefit of the doubt there.
It's a bit of a 50/50 that one. They tend to be more willing to let it go in that situation if there is actually no push.

But I watched it again, and I was so focused on a push that I completely missed the jersey pull from Gela-Mosby. I don't think it had any impact on Milford's ability to get the ball as he was already falling onto the ball when Gela-Mosby started pulling at the jersey but technically, that is a penalty.
 

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