PRE-GAME Round 7 - Broncos vs Sharks

Jedhead said: said:

Maybe we might night need to give them a full season playing NRL together before they finally click


Well said - nail on the head. As soon as we all accept this our stress levels will drop, have something to look forward to and we'll be kind to each other again.

The only problem with this is they are being paid full freight now as NRL players. If they need a 'settling in season' as it were they shouldn't be on full NRL rates.
 
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Get the pitch fork and torches ready @Wolfie

https://www.broncos.com.au/news/201...1lZXAW28K3ip-KAiAK-ZXwfBir2JFfbl7TL2RbMpF7diM


ANTHONY Seibold will bring Matt Lodge straight back into the Broncos’ starting side for tomorrow night’s match against the Sharks in Brisbane.
Lodge was cleared to return from a throat injury by a specialist this week and Seibold will inject him immediately.
Pat Carrigan will be the casualty, the young forward set to have a rest after two good opening games to his NRL career.
But Seibold said Carrigan would likely be needed again as soon as next week, with the Broncos to have their third game in just 11 days next Thursday against the Rabbitohs.
“It was great news from the specialist to have ‘Lodgey’ back,” said Seibold.
“He has probably been one of our best forwards when he has played.
“It is good news so he will start tomorrow night.
“Pat Carrigan won’t play tomorrow.
“He has been really good in the first two games, but we won’t play him in Queensland Cup either as we have three games in 11 days in that period.
“We need some fresh bodies - we play tomorrow night and then we have a short turnaround again.”

He is dead to me.
 
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Sooo the article says straight back in to the starting side and Carrigan dropping out, but doesn't say who's getting benched out of Haas, TPJ & Ofa.

Hmm..
 
Sooo the article says straight back in to the starting side and Carrigan dropping out, but doesn't say who's getting benched out of Haas, TPJ & Ofa.

Hmm..
Better not be Haas, I sacrificed Friend's 76 SC points for him.
 
He's got freak-like endurance but I wouldn't mind Haas being used as an impact player for a while.
Particularly at this stage of his career and with TPJ and Lodge back in the starting side.
 
He's got freak-like endurance but I wouldn't mind Haas being used as an impact player for a while.
Particularly at this stage of his career and with TPJ and Lodge back in the starting side.
Having a prop who can play 80 minutes is a massive advantage. If he can keep producing solid error free football then I would leave him out there and tell TPJ, Lodge and Offa they will each have a few less minutes so go nuts and make an impact.
 
Having a prop who can play 80 minutes is a massive advantage. If he can keep producing solid error free football then I would leave him out there and tell TPJ, Lodge and Offa they will each have a few less minutes so go nuts and make an impact.

He's made 2 bad defensive decisions late in the game resulting in tries that cost us the game.
You can't expect a rookie to play big minutes and be error free , so I think bench impact would be a good idea atm
 
The only problem with this is they are being paid full freight now as NRL players. If they need a 'settling in season' as it were they shouldn't be on full NRL rates.
Those who control such things needed the foresight to ensure this situation didn’t happen. They didn’t. We got what we got and they are left to rue their errors. I for one hope a valuable lesson is learnt as it will take time to fix. We don’t want to be going through this again.
 
Having a prop who can play 80 minutes is a massive advantage. If he can keep producing solid error free football then I would leave him out there and tell TPJ, Lodge and Offa they will each have a few less minutes so go nuts and make an impact.

Why do we need props that can play the full 80? That's what the bench is for.
 
https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/04/26/seibold-we-need-payne-haas-starting-each-week/

Seibold: We need Haas starting each week

Broncos coach Anthony Seibold has highlighted the importance of 19-year-old prop Payne Haas to the side after insisting he is now a must in the starting line-up.
Haas, who played 80 minutes against Canberra last week in his just his second game as a starter, will start against the Cronulla Sharks on Saturday night despite the return of Matt Lodge from injury and Tevita Pangai jnr from suspension.
Haas and Lodge will line up in the front-row and Pangai will start at lock. Joe Ofahengaue reverts to the bench alongside Kotoni Staggs, David Fifita and Thomas Flegler.
It is a sign of Haas's meteoric rise that Seibold said he did not see him as a bench player even with all his first-choice forwards available for the first time.
"Payne has been outstanding the last two weeks. He's won the coach's award and the players' player two weeks in a row," Seibold said.
"Payno is a player that needs to start the game and he is a player that can play long minutes. He has an extraordinary ability to work hard and repeat his efforts. We need him out there. I don't think he needs to play 80 minutes every week but last week we were down a little bit in experience.
"He is only 19, so I am not saying he's experienced, but last week we needed all hands on deck. Payno is a starting player for me."
The fly in the ointment for the Broncos, and the one glitch in Haas's game as well, has been missed one-one tackles for Brisbane under fatigue.
"At times we have missed crucial one-on-ones," Seibold said.
"Payne missed one tackle all game [against Canberra] but it was for a try when Bateman went through him close to the line. The week before he missed [two] but one was the one on Chee Kam to lose the game. The missed tackles we are making are costly."
Seibold said the Broncos made five line breaks against the Raiders and that 22 points should have been enough to win. It was defensive lapses that cost the side, not issues with the attack or spine.
"There were too many one-on-one misses. It is not system errors," Seibold said.
"That is where we need to find our improvement. It is an individual focus we need to be better with our one-on-one contact."
Half Kodi Nikorima left training several minutes early on Thursday with a bump on a cork he sustained against Canberra but moved freely in the captain's run on Friday.
Teenage half Tom Dearden is in the extended squad but Seibold said Nikorima would be right to play the Sharks
"We named Tom Dearden in our 21-man squad so if there are any dramas Tom will come in but we don't envisage that," Seibold said.
"Tom has been outstanding for Wynnum and it is a good reward for him.
"We had to have a check on Macca [Andrew McCullough] earlier in the week. He had a bit of a facial injury so I had to have some coverage there if he didn't play but he got cleared."
Pat Carrigan drops out of the 17 that played Canberra but he won't play Intrust Super Cup this weekend. Seibold will keep him fresh ahead of a gruelling 11-day period for the Broncos from last Sunday's clash with Canberra through to next Thursday's away blockbuster against Souths.
"We've got three games in 11 days so we need to make sure we keep a couple of fresh bodies," Seibold said.
"It is great to have everyone available after a disrupted start with our middles.
"It was great news from the specialist on Wednesday morning to have Lodgey back, who I think was probably one of our best forwards in the earlier rounds when he's played. He will start tomorrow night.
"We thought we made some good strides the last couple of weeks and we'll get a good indication of where we are at against Cronulla."
 
He's made 2 bad defensive decisions late in the game resulting in tries that cost us the game.
You can't expect a rookie to play big minutes and be error free , so I think bench impact would be a good idea atm
I would still start him and play 70 at least. Lodge hands the ball to the opposition every 15 minutes lately and TPJ is hardly mister consistency so I wouldn’t be starting either of them over Haas on current form.
 
I would still start him and play 70 at least. Lodge hands the ball to the opposition every 15 minutes lately and TPJ is hardly mister consistency so I wouldn’t be starting either of them over Haas on current form.
Lodge has had at most 4 errors all season (I say at most because that's as low as the NRL stats table goes, and he's not on it), and one of those was from a shocking pass.
 
Stupid coach.

I know it sucks for PattyC, but big, reliable minutes from a prop is a huge advantage. Everything about the game is fatigue, and if it means the others can be rotated before they become a liability, all the better.

I also agree with others about Haas making some costly mistakes, but he's 19 and it was, what, his 5th NRL game? He'll most certainly learn from it.
 

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