POST GAME Round 9 - Broncos vs Panthers

[Big Pete]

I think it does because if it wasnt near the line it wouldve been a 2 man strip and a penalty, imo.

I see what you're saying, however there is a deliberate motion when you're trying to strip somebody of the football. If you can target the football and knock it out in the course of effecting a tackle it's fair game.

 

[Huge]

I reckon they were ripped off as the ball is never knocked on no matter how many people want to claim it was . If Wallace was upright and running forward and a tackler ran at him, punching the ball out of his hands towards the attacking teams try line then if an attacking player regained it, it would be ruled six again, if a defender regained it, it would be a knock on. Shouldn't matter anytime as the ball is never, at any stage going forward.

Happy we got the rub though !!!!

 

[Morkel]

And, er, we saw nothing.

You didn't see him lose possession? What, did he misplace possession? "Oh, I still have possession, I just can't find it right now". It worked for Jamie Lyon I guess. "See, it was just on my torso this whole time".

 

[BroncsFan]

I'd have to see a replay because it seemed like Thaiday was in the process of picking up the football before Moylan led in with the boot forcing a knock on.

I was surprised that Moylan's play wasn't considered dangerous.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Sammy may have wanted to dive on the ball however Moylan coming in the way he did may have forced him to pick it up instead of getting his head kicked in.

If Moylan does that in a try scoring position it would've been an 8 point try rules shouldn't change based on the position of the field

 

[Porthoz]

The only reason it came out is because McGuires arm came around and knocked it out. Intentional or not. If it went forward or Wallace was in the process of dropping it into McGuire fine but it was not dropped into McGuire which is the rule. When any player is reaching out to score a try it is always going to be in a loose hold. No issue if it went forward when McGuires arm came around but it went straight out the back and was picked up. I have never seen that before in my life ruled as a no try.

Bullshit, McGuire knocked the ball out in the process of making a tackle, and BECAUSE it was a loose carry, it's rightfully called a knock on, and has been for ages.

 

[holdzy]

You didn't see him lose possession? What, did he misplace possession? "Oh, I still have possession, I just can't find it right now". It worked for Jamie Lyon I guess. "See, it was just on my torso this whole time".

Yes I saw him lose possession...after McGuire knocked the ball out. I honestly don't care what the ruling is from there. But he was in the act of scoring a try, and if McGuire doesn't smack the ball out, he scores. Was not a 'loose carry' at all, imo. Don't care about the 'controversy' though. Broncos were dudded several times in the first six rounds, so **** the haters.

 

[broncos4life]

Maybe. Or maybe he didn't strike it sweetly because he was distracted.

Who distracted him the other times he has done it?

 

[Porthoz]

4 of my mates who are supporters said it was lucky. Apart from a few on fox I have heard all day and seen across all social media that it was a dud call. Can come out with the whole bronco hater spiel but I hate to tell ya but not everybody would have said it was a dud call because they are a "bronco hater". Bit of a objectivity never hurt anyone

Just come out and say who you really support. It's ok, we don't ban people for being from other clubs.
We do however have rules for trolling...

Most NRL players admitted it was a knock-on, even on the footy show, when the idiots were having a whinge.
If a player runs full steam, and hits an opposition player with the ball, resulting in it being dislodged, it doesn't matter how securely it was being held, it is still a knock-on... every single time!

 

[Morkel]

Yes I saw him lose possession...after McGuire knocked the ball out. I honestly don't care what the ruling is from there. But he was in the act of scoring a try, and if McGuire doesn't smack the ball out, he scores. Was not a 'loose carry' at all, imo. Don't care about the 'controversy' though. Broncos were dudded several times in the first six rounds, so **** the haters.

Had the ball come off McGuire's shoulder, or back, or functioning eyeball, or winkie, to the same effect, it's a knock-on. Had it come off the goal post like that, it's a knock on. The ball was travelling forward and only goes backwards because it rebounds. That's physics. If he is holding it securely, it doesn't come loose.

 

[holdzy]

Had the ball come off McGuire's shoulder, or back, or functioning eyeball, or winkie, to the same effect, it's a knock-on. Had it come off the goal post like that, it's a knock on. The ball was travelling forward and only goes backwards because it rebounds. That's physics. If he is holding it securely, it doesn't come loose.

But that would be different from smacking the ball out directly, no? It wasn't a 'tackle'. If it comes off his eyeball, it's not a knock on via McGuire.

Wrong person to put this to, obviously, but it's not worth pages of argument.

 

[broncos4life]

4 of my mates who are supporters said it was lucky. Apart from a few on fox I have heard all day and seen across all social media that it was a dud call. Can come out with the whole bronco hater spiel but I hate to tell ya but not everybody would have said it was a dud call because they are a "bronco hater". Bit of a objectivity never hurt anyone

The point is you aren't objective. You only have an issue with things that go in favour of 'your team' and only celebrate things that go against 'your team'.

I agree that this should have been a try and in this case think we were very lucky, difference is I'm not spending pages whinging about it...

Stop treating us like idiots, it is the least you can do.

 

[Porthoz]

But that would be different from smacking the ball out directly, no? It wasn't a 'tackle'. If it comes off his eyeball, it's not a knock on via McGuire.

Wrong person to put this to, obviously, but it's not worth pages of argument.

Like he admitted himself, it's an obvious tactic while effecting a tackle.
That is the core of the matter here, did he play at the ball, or was effecting a tackle...? The vision is conclusive enough to say his primary concern was to tackle Wallace, not to dislodge the ball.

 

[holdzy]

Like he admitted himself, it's an obvious tactic while effecting a tackle.
That is the core of the matter here, did he play at the ball, or was effecting a tackle...? The vision is conclusive enough to say his primary concern was to tackle Wallace, not to dislodge the ball.

It's a call, given the consistency of the NRL, that could go either way in any game. I'm glad it went our way.

 

[GCBRONCO]

Personally I thought there was no knock on and it was a try and a tough call on Penrith but it's a bit rich for those complaining about it to claim it cost them the match.

 

[Socnorb]

Interesting thing is how easily Kahu keeps up... being the slowest NRL player and all, at least according to certain people.

Jordy the jet

 

[Foordy]

Personally I thought there was no knock on and it was a try and a tough call on Penrith but it's a bit rich for those complaining about it to claim it cost them the match.

of course it cost them the match, don't be silly.

that 1 call at the start of the game caused them to miss 31 tackles and make 17 errors ... in fact we should just give them the 2 points. they deserve it

 

[rnabokov]

Like he admitted himself, it's an obvious tactic while effecting a tackle.
That is the core of the matter here, did he play at the ball, or was effecting a tackle...? The vision is conclusive enough to say his primary concern was to tackle Wallace, not to dislodge the ball.

I have nothing to do atm so I'll throw in my 5c worth.

The above is what I agree with. For mine, Wallace was moving forward while holding the ball so it was moving forward too, and as it struck McGuire's arm, Wallace lost possession moving forward into McGuire's arm in the 1st instance and is therefore a knock on.

The fact Moose'e arm was there at the same time as the ball is just plain bad luck for Wallace. He is experienced enough to know the importance of ball security. Hitting McGuire's arm with the ball is no different to hitting the turf with an arm holding the ball. The difference is that Moose's arm was there, between the ball and the in-goal turf hence the rule for a knock on applies.

Ta da.

As for that call losing the match, cobblers. The Panthers were simply outplayed by a far better side. The only impressive thing I saw about the Panthers was Moylan's very good 4th and 5th tackle options - he can be deadly.

 

[BroncsFan]

Manly currently copping the same treatment we got last night for the horrendous crime of flogging an opposing NRL team. Penalty count currently 5-1 Souths including a phantom offside after a drop ball inside the 10m line

Also hearing crickets after hymel took half an hour to put the ball down yet milf was CLEARLY held last week