Sack Seibold Now!
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I bleed Maroon
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Seriously, he can't be any worse. And he actually has some history with the club.
Slippin Jimmy
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Not long now.
_wwong
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I think it needs to be Kevvie just to rebuild a bit of the culture. These players seem broken and need to enjoy football again. I think Kevvie can do that.
- Jul 28, 2016
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They don't know what they're doing on the field so I don't think it will matter who comes in
Mum-the-meatloaf
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We had a crack at Bellyache. Would have loved that to eventuate.
I thinks siebs has something to offer, as the game changes more and more, I think the old heads will be found out.
I like the idea of an educator there as the team is so young.
Time will tell.
Mum-the-meatloaf
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Just trying to protect his players.
Hopefully behind closed doors he has given them an almighty spray.
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Big Pete
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What I don't understand is that under Seibold a lot of Souths attack was based around the work of their edge forwards. They would usually hit Crichton or Sutton and that would give them an option of playing down short-sides, or going back through the middle and getting a quick play the ball to play off of.
At the Broncos, EVERYTHING is through the middle. Just when you think they're about to go wide, the half will pass it back inside or take a run through the middle.
The problem is that Seibs has assessed the squad and determined their DNA is to play through Payne Haas. Haas is a great player, but even the greatest middle forward, Jason Taumalolo can't carry his team into the Top 8. They need to get over that middle and they need to trust Alex Glenn more to take some rucks up that left edge.
4 runs from the captain is entirely unacceptable. This was even worse than the type of output Thaiday would put out and would get criticised over. Glenn has to triple that, under this system.
It's where the Broncos really miss having Fifita because they'd have no excuse for not giving him enough quality ball. The loss of Turpin and Staggs has also really hurt the team, they've been among the Broncos best in recent times.
Seibs needs to get them back doing the basics. Working on their defensive technique and how to effectively get numbers in the tackle and shut down offloads. He also has to bring his left-side into the game, again, just pretend Alex Glenn is Dave Fifita and work over that edge. It should at least give the team a different point of attack.
They just need to make slight adjustments and they need their senior players to step up. I'd be working over-time with Croft, Milford, Glenn, Pangai Jr, Lodge, Carrigan, Haas etc. to get this right.
At the Broncos, EVERYTHING is through the middle. Just when you think they're about to go wide, the half will pass it back inside or take a run through the middle.
The problem is that Seibs has assessed the squad and determined their DNA is to play through Payne Haas. Haas is a great player, but even the greatest middle forward, Jason Taumalolo can't carry his team into the Top 8. They need to get over that middle and they need to trust Alex Glenn more to take some rucks up that left edge.
4 runs from the captain is entirely unacceptable. This was even worse than the type of output Thaiday would put out and would get criticised over. Glenn has to triple that, under this system.
It's where the Broncos really miss having Fifita because they'd have no excuse for not giving him enough quality ball. The loss of Turpin and Staggs has also really hurt the team, they've been among the Broncos best in recent times.
Seibs needs to get them back doing the basics. Working on their defensive technique and how to effectively get numbers in the tackle and shut down offloads. He also has to bring his left-side into the game, again, just pretend Alex Glenn is Dave Fifita and work over that edge. It should at least give the team a different point of attack.
They just need to make slight adjustments and they need their senior players to step up. I'd be working over-time with Croft, Milford, Glenn, Pangai Jr, Lodge, Carrigan, Haas etc. to get this right.
- Mar 5, 2008
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Says it all. Seibold persists with this dead play despite the results of edge plays being so bleeding obvious.
We saw what we can do with the edge play at the start of the Titans game where a try was bombed by Niu's inexperience - he throws the dummy and scores - that play with Luke - Croft - TPJ - Niu through the hole thanks to the TPJ offload with Herbie and Coates in support. It was beautiful to watch. The dopamine was flowing. But that was about it. Didn't happen much after that.
Time for Luke to start organizing those plays on BOTH sides, as you say, with Glenn on the other side
In fact, time for Luke to start organising the middle period. In fact, I do wonder of Seibs has those plays in the repertoire only the failure of an organiser in the middle ses us revert to the middle because it is easy when nobody bothers to call the plays.
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heartly87
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A lot of good thoughts here mate. We tend to forget what we have out with injury. Luck has not been on our side this year and I think the media have jumped on the blood in the water trying to pull Fifi and others out of our side.
Seibs must get the boys playing better. Nobody should be shirking responsibility here. Glenn should be demanding the ball and Milf should be getting it to him. They just need to go back to basic support footy.
- Jul 28, 2016
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What makes it more baffling is that our two biggest weapons are the two edge forwards in Fifi and TPJ.
To me they should be setting up to sweep to one side and hit Fifi or TPJ... have them focussing on a quick play the ball and sweep back to the other second rower.
A long sweeping play from one sideline to the other and looking to get the big physical and skillful second rowers isolated on the opposition half should lead to half breaks if not full breaks, offloads and quick ptb's.
Eventually the opposition will load up on the second rowers, but over compensating would leave the sweep open with attack like Staggs and Coates ready for the overlaps
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And before that, someone has to call the plays. It's been our problem for years. The dummy half shovels the ball to the nearest forward one or two out and they take up a hit up, fall over and it stops there.
This time we have a quality dummy half and it's up to Seibs to get him, Croft and Milford together to create the connections, with Niu following as he did in the excellent play I referred to v Titans. Niu has the instincts, as did Slater and as does Tedesco, constantly hanging out the back waiting for the pass or offload. I actually think Niu has the making s of a great full back. He has the footy smarts, just needs the polish which comes with experience.
We have everything we need except the organisation to make it happen
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- Mar 7, 2008
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I don't put the hitup numbers for Glenn down to him not being ready to do the work. He really put in and I think was trying hard to direct things and finding it as difficult as did Boyd in the same role.
