Salary cap cheating.

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Rugby league's dirty secret: confessions of an NRL bagman

They are known as "the money men" and they are rugby league's dirty secret.

Every club has them, said one businessman, and he should know because over the years he has both collected "the folding stuff" and put in his own money to try to buy an advantage for his team.

The money men are club diehards whose loyalty to their team is being exploited by club officials who are organising for cash payments to be made directly to players or their managers.

They know they are part of an underhand scheme to deliberately subvert the salary cap. But the money men don't care. Every club does it, they say – especially the wealthier clubs.

Clubs like Parramatta, which are run by non-businessmen, are at a disadvantage.

"The stronger clubs have got more hangers-on willing to pay. People with clout tend to hang round people with clout," the bagman said.

Clubs like Parramatta, which are run by non-businessmen, are at a disadvantage, he said. "The smart clubs, which are run by professionals, they are the ones who don't get caught."

"If you honestly believe the [names successful club] players fit under the salary cap, you need rocks in your head," the bagman said.

"The top 17 players at the [names club] – every one of those players gets a brown paper bag full of the folding stuff," he said.

He goes on to name a prominent official at this club who collects hundreds of thousands of dollars a year by "putting the squeeze on business people who want to be part of the inner sanctum".

In 2010 the self-confessed bagman was called upon to pay almost $100,000 in cash to a one-time Queensland State of Origin star to sweeten the deal for the famous player to sign with a new club.

Such was the interest in the player, his signing delivered more than 10,000 "bums on seats" at the home games, the bagman told Fairfax Media.

The bagman said some clubs didn't want to know how it was done. They just say that player X needs a certain amount of money, can you sort it out?

At other clubs the bagman said the first thing a coach wanted to know when he came to a club was: Who are the money men?

"They [club officials] organise a dinner, a barbecue or a cruise and they invite all the people who "help out". The coach meets people and then with the CEO they work out a plan of attack, who can do what, who they want to buy and then they approach the money men to see if they can help out.

After the "plan of attack" is worked out, sometimes the money men are dispatched to collect payments from the "so-called third party sponsor".

"We are told: 'Go and see Joe Blow at SpareParts.com.

"I say, 'I am here to see you about your player, can you help out?'

"He's already been told, so he says, 'Yeah mate'. And then he goes to the safe and hands over the money. I say, 'If you want the player to come and do some promo work, just let us know'."

In return, the "donors" are given access to the dressing rooms, they and their mates are given tickets, they go on trips with players, their kids get to be ball boys, and they feel part of the inner sanctum.

"Anyone who helps out 'in folding' [money] gets access to anywhere they like. They get looked after," the bagman said.

At the heart of the scheme are the player managers, some of whom siphon off a cut of the money, he said. One player manager lost several high-profile clients after he was caught pocketing cash payments that were meant for his players.
"The player managers orchestrate it. They don't care if the payments to their players are on the books, legitimate TPAs [third party agreements] or a brown paper bag," he said.

He said in the past players were paid outside the salary cap through cars or apartments. The apartments were commonly in brand new developments. The player sold the apartment upon completion but before the land title was officially registered.

That way, it was difficult to trace that they had ever had an interest in the building in question.

The bagman named a club official saying, he is "far too clever to do cars or units or anything like that. [The club official] says it is all in brown paper bags and it gets left on a table for the player manager to pick it up."

Peter Grimshaw, the media spokesman for the NRL, said he would wait to see the allegations before making any comment.

Rugby league's dirty secret: confessions of an NRL bagman


It's as though Queensland teams are dominating the NRL. No prizes for guessing who the unnamed club is.
 
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Couldn't be us in 2010 to get a player to sign with us.
That has Inglis written all over it. Only person we signed that year was Hannant.
And what they are harping on about isn't illegal. Its in the rules so clubs take advantage of it
 
So this guy is going to the media and naming clubs that are rorting the cap..

I hope he has some solid evidence to back up his claims when the clubs start suing him.

Wouldn't surprise me if clubs are doing this, though.
 
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Let's just keep dragging all clubs through the mud with vague acquisitions and dirty up the whole sport.

Honestly I'm sick of this bullshit, put up or shut up.
 
I'll take it seriously when they actually name a club. Until then it's a load of shit.
 
Scrap the cap. We don't need it.

You're right, WE don't but the struggling, useless Sydney clubs that are pathetically managed do and that is for some ludicrous and unknown reason, the NRL's target market.
 
Sounds like a butt hurt NSW club fanboy. Just because our club is run by competent business people, is turning profit and is highly successful is not our fault.

If your s#{^ club can't even run an NRL club, then go merge and stop asking richer clubs to pay your way!
 
Scrap the cap. We don't need it.

Nah we need the cap. NRL would become very boring if only the same 3-4 teams could win it every year and the others would just be whipping boys.
Just force the Sydney clubs to either start adapting to the market or relocate where there is a better market to go to like Perth or Ipswich
 
Only about 3-5 teams have a realistic chance of winning it, anyway.

The rest of the comp are just making up the numbers.
 
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How many sporting codes don't have a Salary Cap??
 
We need it gone more than we need it. All it's there to do is protect those terribly run clubs who can't afford to compete with the clubs who look after their financial interests.

Isn't the NBA cap around $70 Million? And what's ours? Pathetic really.

Why should the good teams have to be disadvantaged because the NRL don't have the balls to bring in rules where they can legally remove teams who can't stay afloat or don't have enough money to compete. The NRL isn't a charity.
 
In 2010 the self-confessed bagman was called upon to pay almost $100,000 in cash to a one-time Queensland State of Origin star to sweeten the deal for the famous player to sign with a new club.
 
Couldn't be us in 2010 to get a player to sign with us.
That has Inglis written all over it. Only person we signed that year was Hannant.
And what they are harping on about isn't illegal. Its in the rules so clubs take advantage of it

It's illegal if not declared to the NRL.
 
Nah we need the cap. NRL would become very boring if only the same 3-4 teams could win it every year and the others would just be whipping boys.
Just force the Sydney clubs to either start adapting to the market or relocate where there is a better market to go to like Perth or Ipswich

Yep, it would become just like the EPL and we all know that the NRL doesn't think that model will ever work. *Rolls eyes*

Only three or four given teams can win it every year anyway, plus if the glamour clubs start struggling, they just buy in new talent anyway. The salary cap does nothing other than force some of the elite to either play in rubbish teams or go to other codes to get the money they want.
 
Yep, it would become just like the EPL and we all know that the NRL doesn't think that model will ever work. *Rolls eyes*

Only three or four given teams can win it every year anyway, plus if the glamour clubs start struggling, they just buy in new talent anyway. The salary cap does nothing other than force some of the elite to either play in rubbish teams or go to other codes to get the money they want.

You normally have 3-4 clubs that can win it every year but its normally a mixture of clubs year to year because the salary cap levels the playing field with how much player talent a team can accrue. (every club has its ups and downs and the good clubs make sure their downs aren't that bad) The EPL model doesn't work. They got lucky this year with Leicester, but normally its either the Manchester clubs, Chelsea or Arsenal winning it with a couple of other clubs like Tottenham and Liverpool challenging in some years. The reason why it has actually become popular this year is because the big clubs have fallen over and a minnow has actually won it for a change. It wont happen again for another 100 years though. Plus on any given day, any team in the NRL can beat anyone and it regularly does happen too. Cant really say that in most other competitions in the world.
 
You normally have 3-4 clubs that can win it every year but its normally a mixture of clubs year to year because the salary cap levels the playing field with how much player talent a team can accrue. (every club has its ups and downs and the good clubs make sure their downs aren't that bad) The EPL model doesn't work. They got lucky this year with Leicester, but normally its either the Manchester clubs, Chelsea or Arsenal winning it with a couple of other clubs like Tottenham and Liverpool challenging in some years. The reason why it has actually become popular this year is because the big clubs have fallen over and a minnow has actually won it for a change. It wont happen again for another 100 years though. Plus on any given day, any team in the NRL can beat anyone and it regularly does happen too. Cant really say that in most other competitions in the world.
Not sure if serious... there isn't a more popular comp in the world me thinks.
 

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