State of Origin Game III - Live Discussion

The thing that annoys me about players like hunt and morgan (in the past, not so much now due to the reason it also annoys me in the first place. It becomes clear soon) continuously get selected is that we are continuously selecting them over amd over again to “develop” and “grow” their game. Give any nrl level number 6 or 7 the amount of opportunity that these 2 have had to “grow” and they will have 1 or 2 highlights surrounded by mediocrity as well. Its both the law of averages and also the fact they have had so many chances to grow their game with better players. Why suffer until they provide SOMETHING?

The players we had filling that role off the bench before them were class IN THAT ROLE, or showed enough to guarantee they were the future. Ponga showed this the other night, that role isnt cover, its meant to be an IMPACT player. Hunt wont be our long term number 7 or our long term number 9 so why keep a spot for him when the job he did could be done by any speedy hooker (granville, segeyaro). We are weak in the forwards, why not a 4 forward bench? Why not a proper impact hooker? Before morgan we had k hunt and cronk filling that spot, bowen was another a few years further back.... owe how far we have fallen. Morgan has finally grown into the role a bit, AFTER 10 games! 3 series it has taken him! We arent good enough now to wait for that again, the bench is an important part to winning games..
 
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Lockysillegitimatechild said:
Haha wallace needs to go, people blaming mcguire obviously havent played footy... who was wallace lined up against? Additionally, even IF mcguire was to blame wallcae has runs on the board at this level. Wallace has flops
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Have you ever played footy?

Wallace wasn't even lined up on Tedesco. He was lined up on Sims, that was his man. Tedesco was McGuire's. Tedesco ran through the hole that McGuire created by coming in on Cook when there was absolutely no need.

That try was COMPLETELY McGuire's fault.

It would be ridiculous to even blame Wallace in the slightest. He's a prop forward, he doesn't have the speed to cover that hole before Tedesco can run through it.

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Super Freak said:
Have you ever played footy?

Wallace wasn't even lined up on Tedesco. He was lined up on Sims, that was his man. Tedesco was McGuire's. Tedesco ran through the hole that McGuire created by coming in on Cook when there was absolutely no need.

That try was COMPLETELY McGuire's fault.

It would be ridiculous to even blame Wallace in the slightest. He's a prop forward, he doesn't have the speed to cover that hole before Tedesco can run through it.

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The old still photo haha... You could take a still photo of any moment in the game and milk it. Welcome to the media... Cook 1 metre from the line with his speed on kafusi would have been over the try line 9.9/10. What this this doesnt show is that cook wasnt flat footed on kafusi. And look at he amgle of this photo, watch when tedesco actually gets through sims is way outside wallace on a front on angle lol. And who do you cover. The beach sprinting champion hooker 1 metre from the line and one of the fastest fb in the game or a second rowerr who is another 5 metres back and requires a precision flat ball across an advancing defensive line to get the ball? Lol unfortunately for us the game isnt played in still photos, it moves....

Have you ever played the game?
 
Lockysillegitimatechild said:
The old still photo haha... You could take a still photo of any moment in the game and milk it. Welcome to the media... Cook 1 metre from the line with his speed on kafusi would have been over the try line 9.9/10. What this this doesnt show is that cook wasnt flat footed on kafusi. And look at he amgle of this photo, watch when tedesco actually gets through sims is way outside wallace on a front on angle lol. And who do you cover. The beach sprinting champion hooker 1 metre from the line and one of the fastest fb in the game or a second rowerr who is another 5 metres back and requires a precision flat ball across an advancing defensive line to get the ball? Lol unfortunately for us the game isnt played in still photos, it moves....

Have you ever played the game?
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I have and still do play the game, Kaufusi playing passively on the line instead of attacking Cook forced McGuire's hands. If Kaufusi gets back to his mark and gets up on Cook McGuire can stay out on Tedesco.
 
turning my attention to next years series ... this is how i would go (assuming all players healthy and in decent form):

1. Ponga
2. Holmes
3. Munster
4. Inglis (c)
5. Gagai
6. Milford
7. Cherry-Evans (last night earned him another shot)
8. Arrow
9. McCullough
10. Papalli
11. Su'a
12. Gillett
13. McGuire

14. Oates (utility as can play forwards and backs)
15. Ofahengue
16. Hess
17. Napa

18. Rhyse Martin
 
Super Freak said:
Have you ever played footy?

Wallace wasn't even lined up on Tedesco. He was lined up on Sims, that was his man. Tedesco was McGuire's. Tedesco ran through the hole that McGuire created by coming in on Cook when there was absolutely no need.

That try was COMPLETELY McGuire's fault.

It would be ridiculous to even blame Wallace in the slightest. He's a prop forward, he doesn't have the speed to cover that hole before Tedesco can run through it.

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I take back my blame of Wallace in this instance ...

however, my thinking that he is shit and should be dropped STANDS :P
 
Foordy said:
turning my attention to next years series ... this is how i would go (assuming all players healthy and in decent form):

1. Ponga
2. Holmes
3. Munster
4. Inglis (c)
5. Gagai
6. Milford
7. Cherry-Evans (last night earned him another shot)
8. Arrow
9. McCullough
10. Papalli
11. Su'a
12. Gillett
13. McGuire

14. Oates (utility as can play forwards and backs)
15. Ofahengue
16. Hess
17. Napa

18. Rhyse Martin
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So glad we can agree now that you were absolutely, categorically wrong about them picking DCE for this game
 
Foordy said:
turning my attention to next years series ... this is how i would go (assuming all players healthy and in decent form):

1. Ponga
2. Holmes
3. Munster
4. Inglis (c)
5. Gagai
6. Milford
7. Cherry-Evans (last night earned him another shot)
8. Arrow
9. McCullough
10. Papalli
11. Su'a
12. Gillett
13. McGuire

14. Oates (utility as can play forwards and backs)
15. Ofahengue
16. Hess
17. Napa

18. Rhyse Martin
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I like it, no Chambers and Kaufusi doesn’t do it for me. An injury to Macca and DCE to hooker, Milford/Munster halves. Me likey.
 
Old Mate said:
Well ya stats can be shoved up ya ass because they’re wrong, he put Oates through a gap for one until Oates dropped it and put in a ripper long kick that nearly got us a drop out.
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The long kick was macca if you're thinking of the one that ended up with Turbo on the 1m line
 
Foordy said:
turning my attention to next years series ... this is how i would go (assuming all players healthy and in decent form):

1. Ponga
2. Holmes
3. Munster
4. Inglis (c)
5. Gagai
6. Milford
7. Cherry-Evans (last night earned him another shot)
8. Arrow
9. McCullough
10. Papalli
11. Su'a
12. Gillett
13. McGuire

14. Oates (utility as can play forwards and backs)
15. Ofahengue
16. Hess
17. Napa

18. Rhyse Martin
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Good side.

Only thing I’d do differently is put Su’a on the bench, Kaufusi at 11 and drop Hess (aside from 1, maybe 2 runs last night he’s just too soft. It must be close to 6 games now without making any real impact when his job is impact forward - IMO he does nothing Oates or Su’a couldn’t do in the same role).

Maybe Morgan at 3 and Munster at 6. I believe Morgan has always performed in every position asked of him, including centre, and deserves a spot. And don’t get be wrong, I really want Milf to succeed at Origin level, but I can’t find a reason to move Munster and break a winning halves combination. On last nights performance, DCE was exactly what we missed in games 1 and 2 (one can only wonder do we win game 2 with last nights DCE at halfback in the final 10mins against 12 men? You’d have to think so - shame).

But I wouldn’t be upset if the team you named got selected.

Except Hess haha. He just isn’t delivering for mine.
 
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There isn't a lot between these sides bar ref decisions, bad errors or an individual bit of brilliance but if DCE plays from game 1 we win the series.
This team was crying out for a true organiser and this was one selection that was obvious from the start IMO.

Overall we did well given the disruptions.
 
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