The Ashes 2013/14

Bucking Beads said:
He captains NSW in the shield when he plays for them and he captained the Sixers to the title when he was 22. He has leadership qualities that almost none of the batsmen in his age bracket have.
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Fair enough, I guess my point is that it's very different captaining shield to captaining Australia. It doesn't matter how good your leadership is, if your not putting runs in the board there is only so long before your team will stop listening. Currently he can't do that with any kind of consistency.

He may be a great leader but he has a lot of work to do on his game and his technique before he could be a successful captain.

In saying that he may be the next Australian captain because currently looking at the ones coming through none of them fill me with confidence.

My point is, if smith doesn't change his batting dramatically and he is deemed to be our best, or one of our best batters in years to come, we're fucked
 
No doubt he needs runs at test level. His technique has improved a lot. He was one of our better batsmen in England and India. He is 24 so still learning his game and finding his feet at test level .
 
Bucking Beads said:
The proof will be in the pudding. Just be patient and you'll see. Only 2 tests ago Smith hit 138 not out by the way. He showed on the tour of England he is up to test cricket.
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Smith's tour of England: 53, 17, 2, 1, 89, 19, 17, 2, 138*, 7

And this summer so far: 31, 0, 6

I don't see proof, or a pudding ... just a steaming pile of erratic turd sandwich
 
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Does anyone answer the KFC trivia's? I got that one right.
 
Pup with a ton. Haddin has his 50 as well great first session for us.
 
Bucking Beads said:
Pup with a ton. Haddin has his 50 as well great first session for us.
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Absolutely. Gotta feel a little sorry for stokes... Well not really, just thought I should say that lol
 
broncos4life said:
Absolutely. Gotta feel a little sorry for stokes... Well not really, just thought I should say that lol
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Stokes is a kiwi playing for England. It's ok to never feel sorry for him.
 
Awesome session Clarke and Haddin are in fantastic form. Very good test cricket as well. Good batting against good bowling and fielding.
 
reluctant to say anything for fear of a massive jinx but this series thus far has been a mirror image (ie the opposite) of the last couple - ie England with the unsuccessful reviews, having wickets overturned for no-balls and just generally not coming up big in the critical junctures of these one-and-a-bit games to date.
 
On the point of Smith, Amla and Ponting both had mediocre records through their first twenty to thirty tests. Cook was decent but not near his current level. Hayden also was mediocre. The reality is, most batsmen hit their prime between 26-33 years of age. If we stick with Smith and Warner (provided he pulls his finger out because he has the potential to be an all-time great) and also Hughes after Rogers is gone, we will have the making of a world-class team to match our myriad of pacies and spinners coming through.

We need to keep the older blokes in there for now while the younger blokes hit their mid to late twenties and Bob will most certainly be your aunty.
 
Sproj said:
On the point of Smith, Amla and Ponting both had mediocre records through their first twenty to thirty tests. Cook was decent but not near his current level. Hayden also was mediocre. The reality is, most batsmen hit their prime between 26-33 years of age. If we stick with Smith and Warner (provided he pulls his finger out because he has the potential to be an all-time great) and also Hughes after Rogers is gone, we will have the making of a world-class team to match our myriad of pacies and spinners coming through.

We need to keep the older blokes in there for now while the younger blokes hit their mid to late twenties and Bob will most certainly be your aunty.
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Cook reached 5000 Test runs by 26 he was second youngest to ever do that and he is also the youngest to 7000 Test runs.
 
Hence I said he was decent but it wasn't until he was about 25 when he started going on that prolific run.
 
I'm not sure that any of our young batsmen coming through are of the Clarke/Cook quality. Only time will tell. Patience is needed. No good chopping and changing
 
Yep and that's my point. You look at Hughes FC record, there is no doubt he is good enough to be a high quality Test bat but the powers that be in CA have screwed his mind over.
 
Sproj said:
Hence I said he was decent but it wasn't until he was about 25 when he started going on that prolific run.
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5000 Test runs quicker than anyone bar Tendulkar is just decent?

The figures completely disagree with your point.
 
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