The BHQ Honesty session

[Sproj]

Pacific islanders very often mature much quicker and put weight on and slow down much sooner.

Based on what research?

 

[Reyter]

Based on what research?

I'm not willing to go to the trouble of finding specific research data for you. Sorry. Regardless, I'm not a specialist in epidemiology. Doubtful I could understand it even if such research where right in front of me.

Do you disagree? If so, will you provide the research data to prove your point?

 

[Sproj]

I'm not willing to go to the trouble of finding specific research data for you. Sorry. Regardless, I'm not a specialist in epidemiology. Doubtful I could understand it even if such research where right in front of me.

Do you disagree? If so, will you provide the research data to prove your point?

I don't need to. Do not come on here and make unsubstantiated racial claims. Consider this your warning.

 

[Reyter]

I don't need to. Do not come on here and make unsubstantiated racial claims. Consider this your warning.

So you disagree?

 

[bb_gun]

So you disagree?

Just stop mate.

 

[ivanhungryjak]

So you disagree?

Wow

 

[Reyter]

Just stop mate.

No. I didn't disparage him (Milford) or Pacific Islanders in any way whatsoever! I'm not sure what race they are (is Polynesian a race or ethnic group). All I did was state the widely held belief that as athletes they "generally" mature earlier and age faster. That doesn't mean Milford will never be as good as he was 2 years ago. Thurston was never big or fast or had very good footwork.

I simply believe Milford likely reached his peak as an athlete, as measured by speed and agility at 21-22, rather than 24-25. Maybe the increased power that goes with increased weight will make up for it. Or maybe he will work very hard and buck the trend. Or as I said about his ball playing and game management. I find it insulting for anyone to pretend I made a racially vilifying remark and to "warn" me for it!!!

 

[Nashy]

No. I didn't disparage him (Milford) or Pacific Islanders in any way whatsoever! I'm not sure what race they are (is Polynesian a race or ethnic group). All I did was state the widely held belief that as athletes they "generally" mature earlier and age faster. That doesn't mean Milford will never be as good as he was 2 years ago. Thurston was never big or fast or had very good footwork.

I simply believe Milford likely reached his peak as an athlete, as measured by speed and agility at 21-22, rather than 24-25. Maybe the increased power that goes with increased weight will make up for it. Or maybe he will work very hard and buck the trend. Or as I said about his ball playing and game management. I find it insulting for anyone to pretend I made a racially vilifying remark and to "warn" me for it!!!

What players do you believe have shaped this into a theory for you?

 

[Super Freak]

Hunt. He's comparable to Henjak and Hook because he bent us over in the 2015 GF by not only dropping the ball and choking like a dog in the last ten mins of regular time, but also going MIA throughout the game as Milford produced a heroic performance that really deserved a CCM. He then ruined us by playing like a spud in '16 and '17 as he coped with being broken mentally, and cost us a real shot at the comp in those years, but still Bennett got behind him until it was clear that he wasn't coming good. If he had taken the cash and run before the club staked its entire future on him we would be in a far better position today. It would've been impossible to know this back then though, so I don't blame Wayne.

You really need to learn what "going missing" means.

 

[Reyter]

What players do you believe have shaped this into a theory for you?

A few things. Firstly I said "ethnicity and body shape". If you are talking about pro RL players there are many variables. Injuries, application to training and what the team requires being the most obvious. But off the top of my head, Isaac Luke, Benji and Milford himself. Still very good players. Just Milford not justifying his price tag.

 

[holdzy]

You really need to learn what "going missing" means.

It means not doing what is required and expected of you, so Hunt's performance in the GF fits that description.

 

[Nashy]

A few things. Firstly I said "ethnicity and body shape". If you are talking about pro RL players there are many variables. Injuries, application to training and what the team requires being the most obvious. But off the top of my head, Isaac Luke, Benji and Milford himself. Still very good players. Just Milford not justifying his price tag.

Don't read more into my question than I asked. There must be more players, you can't make a theory like that based on two 30+ year olds who managed to make a decent career out of this. Luke is looking pretty good for the Warriors too just out of interest.

 

[Super Freak]

It means not doing what is required and expected of you, so Hunt's performance in the GF fits that description.

Stinking it up and going missing are two different things.

Going missing is not trying, not getting involved. Which doesn't describe Hunt's performance at all.

Besides, in that second half, he did what he was told to do.

 

[broncos4life]

Stinking it up and going missing are two different things.

Going missing is not trying, not getting involved. Which doesn't describe Hunt's performance at all.

I would have preferred he had done missing, we would have won if he did.

 

[Marty Deutschmann]

Ok
I’ll start with an important one
Our Fans - once were strong believers but now just follow the media and act like sheep. They are quick to turn on every single player for one **** up with the coach included but always the first to bask in glory when the broncos win. Seem to blame all and sundry for an ordinary performance and want to sack the coach at the first instance even though he is the one who set such a high standard in the first place. What they fail to realise is that we compete year in year out and we are always close enough at the end of the year to give the title a tilt. Oh and never seem to realise we live in the age of a salary cap and fail to realise just because a kid dominates their own age group doesn’t mean he is just going to do the same immediately in first grade

You sir. Are a bloody legend

 

[holdzy]

Stinking it up and going missing are two different things.

Going missing is not trying, not getting involved. Which doesn't describe Hunt's performance at all.

Besides, in that second half, he did what he was told to do.

What he was told to do? Wow, Wayne has some interesting tactics then. **** up a whole bunch, give away stupid penalties and drop the most important kick he'll ever have to take.

 

[Lockysillegitimatechild]

A few things. Firstly I said "ethnicity and body shape". If you are talking about pro RL players there are many variables. Injuries, application to training and what the team requires being the most obvious. But off the top of my head, Isaac Luke, Benji and Milford himself. Still very good players. Just Milford not justifying his price tag.

Hahahaha first off you've picked 3 players, 2 of which are over 30. You do realise that Pacific Islanders make up around 50% (?) of the nrl these days? And you've picked 3 very very poor examples. Jack bird is a Caucasian Australian, he had a great 2016 but not a great year last year-all Caucasian Australians peak at 21 years old! Thurston and Thaiday are of aboriginal background-all aboriginals drop form dramatically in the final season they decide to play! It's a fact! I don't want to be rude mate but your "evidence" is like reading a 3rd graders assignment...
Also, a drop in form doesn't mean you peaked before the drop in form. Are you seriously implying Milford, in the next 10 years, won't have another period of good form? Seriously haha I'm guessing you have come on here to stir the pot on because some of the points you have made are a good laugh, you're entertaining I'll give you that.

 

[holdzy]

I don't need to. Do not come on here and make unsubstantiated racial claims. Consider this your warning.

I'm just going to be cheeky and make one: White men can't jump :wink: