The great Seibold cleanout

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Well, if it doesn't suit your presupposition...obviously don't mean you!
You are surely joking? You just gave the greatest example of confirmation bias I have ever seen on this forum. I gave you OBJECTIVE points to my argument, he DID turn into the australian and nsw hooker, playing 80 mins and won the dally m all in the year seibold coached him. You have floated an article where cook says he likes and credits his current boss-groundbreaking stuff! And used it as some type of confirmation to yourself that Bennett deserves just as much credit for cooks form as seibold does.
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Cook is playing better this year by the way. I'm not saying it's on Bennett but he's gone to another level with his kicking and try assists and if he credits Bennett who are you to disagree?
You didn't watch him last year? People were saying it's the best year they remember a dummy half having, the same era we have had the greatest dummy half of all time playing! You think he didn't play like that last year? You are kidding yourself! It's his current boss, would you say to your current boss "I credit my former boss for all my good work" when your current boss is known to be pissed off with your former one?

2017: not Australian, NSW hooker, not dally m hooker of the year, lucky to play 40 mins off the bench, even played fullback at the age of 26

2018: dally m hooker, Australian and nsw hooker, played 80 mins every game at hooker...

When did Bennett come into the picture again, 2018 off season did they have phone contact?
 
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Look this is just fucking moronic.

Cook is playing even slightly better than last year with try assists and overall confidence being higher, this is most likely to Bennett as this is what he does. Clearly though the overall change in Cook's game came last year under Seibold, I don't even think that can be disputed.

What is ridiculous in all this is taking a cliched response from a player as some sort of evidence to a point or agenda. Coming on here saying "Player X credits current coach for improvement in game" is akin to crediting a coach for his game plan and man management because in a post match interview a player said "Full credit to the boys and we are just taking it one week at a time".
 
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Look this is just fucking moronic.

Cook is playing even slightly better than last year with try assists and overall confidence being higher, this is most likely to Bennett as this is what he does. Clearly though the overall change in Cook's game came last year under Seibold, I don't even think that can be disputed.

What is ridiculous in all this is taking a cliched response from a player as some sort of evidence to a point or agenda. Coming on here saying "Player X credits current coach for improvement in game" is akin to crediting a coach for his game plan and man management because in a post match interview a player said "Full credit to the boys and we are just taking it one week at a time".
Perfectly said. Seems people with an agenda to confirm their own "non-bias" opinions will latch onto the slightest thing to show us they are "right".
It's funny watching these same people belittle other people's comments by saying they are looking at things with blinkers on though.. The irony is amazing to witness....
 

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Cook is playing better than last year ainec. Whether that’s just a natural progression or Wayne actually can coach could be debated forever. I’ll probably just get confirmation from his superior stats and his quotes crediting Wayne though.

Seibold definitely has a positive effect on him last year as well though.
 
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You are surely joking? You just gave the greatest example of confirmation bias I have ever seen on this forum. I gave you OBJECTIVE points to my argument, he DID turn into the australian and nsw hooker, playing 80 mins and won the dally m all in the year seibold coached him. You have floated an article where cook says he likes and credits his current boss-groundbreaking stuff! And used it as some type of confirmation to yourself that Bennett deserves just as much credit for cooks form as seibold does.
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You didn't watch him last year? People were saying it's the best year they remember a dummy half having, the same era we have had the greatest dummy half of all time playing! You think he didn't play like that last year? You are kidding yourself! It's his current boss, would you say to your current boss "I credit my former boss for all my good work" when your current boss is known to be pissed off with your former one?

2017: not Australian, NSW hooker, not dally m hooker of the year, lucky to play 40 mins off the bench, even played fullback at the age of 26

2018: dally m hooker, Australian and nsw hooker, played 80 mins every game at hooker...

When did Bennett come into the picture again, 2018 off season did they have phone contact?
Nobody said he wasn’t really good last year. What I said, and you’ll notice this if you just read it properly, is that he’s playing better than he did last year. He already has the same amount of try assists and he’s improved his kicking game exponentionally. I also didn’t say it was because of Bennett, but if he says it you can’t really argue that it’s not the case. It’s simple really
 
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Cook is playing better than last year ainec. Whether that’s just a natural progression or Wayne actually can coach could be debated forever. I’ll probably just get confirmation from his superior stats and his quotes crediting Wayne though.

Seibold definitely has a positive effect on him last year as well though.
Ye those stats over 9 games and a quote saying he likes his current boss are great evidence. I will just use his elevation from bench 40 mimte hooker at 26 years old, to an 80 minute hooker who won dally m hooker over the greatest hooker ever seen, and became the australian and nsw hooker as my evidence thanks. Theres only about 4 people, and they are all on this forum, that are making a debate about whether Wayne Bennett deserves just as muhh credit as seibold for cooks current status. Have fun debating...
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Nobody said he wasn’t really good last year. What I said, and you’ll notice this if you just read it properly, is that he’s playing better than he did last year. He already has the same amount of try assists and he’s improved his kicking game exponentionally. I also didn’t say it was because of Bennett, but if he says it you can’t really argue that it’s not the case. It’s simple really
And if you read my post you would see that I said, did you watch him last year? Do you not remember people saying it was the greatest year a hooker has had in recent memory? All in the same era that Cameron Smith plays. He had multiple games like he did last night last year, his role was just different. It's simple really...
 
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Ye those stats over 9 games and a quote saying he likes his current boss are great evidence. I will just use his elevation from bench 40 mimte hooker at 26 years old, to an 80 minute hooker who won dally m hooker over the greatest hooker ever seen, and became the australian and nsw hooker as my evidence thanks. Theres only about 4 people, and they are all on this forum, that are making a debate about whether Wayne Bennett deserves just as muhh credit as seibold for cooks current status. Have fun debating...
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And if you read my post you would see that I said, did you watch him last year? Do you not remember people saying it was the greatest year a hooker has had in recent memory? All in the same era that Cameron Smith plays. He had multiple games like he did last night last year, his role was just different. It's simple really...
But he’s better this year. Can’t wait for your response
 

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Ye those stats over 9 games and a quote saying he likes his current boss are great evidence. I will just use his elevation from bench 40 mimte hooker at 26 years old, to an 80 minute hooker who won dally m hooker over the greatest hooker ever seen, and became the australian and nsw hooker as my evidence thanks. Theres only about 4 people, and they are all on this forum, that are making a debate about whether Wayne Bennett deserves just as muhh credit as seibold for cooks current status. Have fun debating...
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And if you read my post you would see that I said, did you watch him last year? Do you not remember people saying it was the greatest year a hooker has had in recent memory? All in the same era that Cameron Smith plays. He had multiple games like he did last night last year, his role was just different. It's simple really...
Why are you so butt hurt about this?

Cook was good last year, he’s just better this year.
 

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"He had multiple games like he did last night last year"

Multiple means more than one...
Yeah without the try assists and kicking game that has gotten better. I don’t really know how to explain this any further. He’s added to his already really good game which has made him better this year.
 
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Why are you so butt hurt about this?

Cook was good last year, he’s just better this year.
Great response, well thought out. I watched last year, and this year. He isn't better. He has been unreal the last month, that's 4 weeks. He was at that level ALL YEAR last year. His role has changed in the 20 metres zone where he provides the last pass much more often as teams are worried about his running game. His kicking game has improved but he wasn't doing a lot of kicking last year.
 

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Great response, well thought out. I watched last year, and this year. He isn't better. He has been unreal the last month, that's 4 weeks. He was at that level ALL YEAR last year. His role has changed in the 20 metres zone where he provides the last pass much more often as teams are worried about his running game. His kicking game has improved but he wasn't doing a lot of kicking last year.
So he’s gotten better? Glad we agree
 

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You are surely joking? You just gave the greatest example of confirmation bias I have ever seen on this forum. I gave you OBJECTIVE points to my argument, he DID turn into the australian and nsw hooker, playing 80 mins and won the dally m all in the year seibold coached him. You have floated an article where cook says he likes and credits his current boss-groundbreaking stuff! And used it as some type of confirmation to yourself that Bennett deserves just as much credit for cooks form as seibold does.
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You didn't watch him last year? People were saying it's the best year they remember a dummy half having, the same era we have had the greatest dummy half of all time playing! You think he didn't play like that last year? You are kidding yourself! It's his current boss, would you say to your current boss "I credit my former boss for all my good work" when your current boss is known to be pissed off with your former one?

2017: not Australian, NSW hooker, not dally m hooker of the year, lucky to play 40 mins off the bench, even played fullback at the age of 26

2018: dally m hooker, Australian and nsw hooker, played 80 mins every game at hooker...

When did Bennett come into the picture again, 2018 off season did they have phone contact?
Yeah? Nahh! Confirmation bias, nope. I merely pointed to the article and reiterated what Cook was reported to have said. I don't believe I made any claims. I certainly didn't say Cook didn't improve last year. If you have issues with COOK'S claims, contact Cook. You go off on tangents, conflating other arguments and opinions not stated. Basically irrational and disordered thinking.
 

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So he’s gotten better? Glad we agree
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Great response, well thought out. I watched last year, and this year. He isn't better. He has been unreal the last month, that's 4 weeks. He was at that level ALL YEAR last year. His role has changed in the 20 metres zone where he provides the last pass much more often as teams are worried about his running game. His kicking game has improved but he wasn't doing a lot of kicking last year.
Any response anyone gives you just sends you off an a massive incoherent wall of text rant.
 
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Yeah? Nahh! Confirmation bias, nope. I merely pointed to the article and reiterated what Cook was reported to have said. I don't believe I made any claims. I certainly didn't say Cook didn't improve last year. If you have issues with COOK'S claims, contact Cook. You go off on tangents, conflating other arguments and opinions not stated. Basically irrational and disordered thinking.
So what was the aim of your original comment? There was no agenda to it? And you are saying that a players comments should be believed as fact now, that they have no reason to make comments that would not be true or that suit their own agenda/situation? I will remember that next time a player compliments seibold, will be interesting to get your view.
Irrational and disordered thinking? Here you go again. The self proclaimed only "non-bias" thinker on BHQ.
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Any response anyone gives you just sends you off an a massive incoherent wall of text rant.
Again, great response. Well though out..
 
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So what was the aim of your original comment? There was no agenda to it? And you are saying that a players comments should be believed as fact now, that they have no reason to make comments that would not be true or that suit their own agenda/situation? I will remember that next time a player compliments seibold, will be interesting to get your view.
Irrational and disordered thinking? Here you go again. The self proclaimed only "non-bias" thinker on BHQ.
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Again, great response. Well though out..
The players have commented on seibold. No one quoted to say he’s improved their game, lots of, he’s going alright’s though.
 

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So what was the aim of your original comment? There was no agenda to it? And you are saying that a players comments should be believed as fact now, that they have no reason to make comments that would not be true or that suit their own agenda/situation? I will remember that next time a player compliments seibold, will be interesting to get your view.
Irrational and disordered thinking? Here you go again. The self proclaimed only "non-bias" thinker on BHQ.
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Again, great response. Well though out..
See, right there's the problem. You add stuff, strawman arguments etc. Perfect example is your drivel about
"you are saying that a players comments should be believed as fact now, that they have no reason to make comments that would not be true or that suit their own agenda/situation"
Like where did anyone say that ?
That's what I mean, disordered thinking, off on tangents.
 

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Oh, how could I have missed this one?

"The self proclaimed ONLY NON BIAS THINKER ON BHQ"

Right, looking forward to you providing the quote that supports that accusation.
 

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