The old dogs hating on Bennett

[Fighting Irish]

I can be 100% sure he will not get a look in if BENNETT is in charge - i have just posted a possible backline of
boyd - hoffman - hodges - copley - gagai/vidot - milford - hunt with barba on the bench - where does reed fit in - at Ipswich

 

[Foordy]

I can be 100% sure he will not get a look in if BENNETT is in charge - i have just posted a possible backline of
boyd - hoffman - hodges - copley - gagai/vidot - milford - hunt with barba on the bench - where does reed fit in - at Ipswich

I'm 100% sure Reed will get a look in.

Hoffman wont stay around to play wing.

Hodges usually spends half the season injured or on rep duty. Hopefully the Bulldogs do us a massive favour (since our own board wont) and sign Boyd quick smart. and i'm not really a fan of Gagai.

you've just made massive signing speculation based on who you THINK will follow Bennett out of the Knight and assuming Brisbane want (or can afford) these players.

 

[Porthoz]

I don't know why people want Gagai back.

They want Reed gone because of his defense. And yet they want a player to replace him who is 3 times as bad defensively.

Sounds good.

People don't want Reed gone because of his defense, which is generally pretty good, but because of his attack and lack of speed.

 

[broncos4life]

Massive mistake ....

i will say this through ... if they have signed him to return, then the board had better ALREADY have the succession plan in place, not wait 3 fucking years to think of one.

IMO, this is the statement the board has just made to the rugby league world, (if it is correct that Bennett is returning):

"The Brisbane Broncos CAN NOT win a premiership unless Wayne Bennett is the head coach"

idiots

I think the more important statement they have made is

"The Brisbane Broncoe CAN NOT win a premiership with Anthony Griffin as head coach"

Why do you care what the rest of the nrl think. I want a premiership, I don't want to waste this premiership window we have over the next 2 to 3 years.

Results are all that matter, not people's perceptions. No one is going to give us a pat on the back for achieving nothing, but sticking with it just to prove a point

 

[broncos4life]

well then forgive me when i'm on hand with an "i told you so" when things start going wrong (either during his tenure or after he leaves and we go backwards again)

I also have no faith in this board to have any succession plan in place for his eventual retirement

Well if bringing back and a legend of the club that has 7 premierships to his name same how manages to avoid being the dooms day you are predicting, And even heaven forbid we win a premiership, I'll try not to be so petty and say I told you so

 

[Foordy]

I think the more important statement they have made is

"The Brisbane Broncoe CAN NOT win a premiership with Anthony Griffin as head coach"

Why do you care what the rest of the nrl think. I want a premiership, I don't want to waste this premiership window we have over the next 2 to 3 years.

Results are all that matter, not people's perceptions. No one is going to give us a pat on the back for achieving nothing, but sticking with it just to prove a point

I couldn't give a shit what the rest of the NRL thinks. What concerns me us the mindset of the board. And it is obvious that they don't think that they can win a premiership without Bennett.

If they don't think they can win over some with Griffin, then fair enough, I think they would be right. But sack him and look for a coach that can. I'm sure there us another coach out there somewhere that can get us our 7th premiership. If not the future isn't looking bright.

What are the chances now of Griffin not seeing out the year and Kearney becoming caretaker coach.

 

[broncos4life]

I couldn't give a shit what the rest of the NRL thinks. What concerns me us the mindset of the board. And it is obvious that they don't think that they can win a premiership without Bennett.

If they don't think they can win over some with Griffin, then fair enough, I think they would be right. But sack him and look for a coach that can. I'm sure there us another coach out there somewhere that can get us our 7th premiership. If not the future isn't looking bright.

What are the chances now of Griffin not seeing out the year and Kearney becoming caretaker coach.

I think griffin would see out the year personally. For everything I criticize him about you can't fault his convictions, and I think he would want to see the year out

You obviously don't like Bennett, and that's fine. But what I think, and what I'm guessing the board thinks is that we have the next 3 years to win a premiership or this window with this current group is closed. It's been 8 years since our last and rightfully they aren't keen to roll over and let this window pass.

It's easy to say "we need to win without Bennett etc etc" but where are these other coaches that we can win with.

I think it's worth noting that in all this pages of people saying we need a new coach, not one possibility has been flighted.

So do you really want to take a punt on an unknown and risk missing this opportunity, and is there really anything that bad about someone that has proven results for a few years (as long as you have a succession plan)?

 

[Rabbir]

You want Anthony Griffin to remain coach?

Tell the team to not give away 18 point leads against the Sharks at home.

 

[Foordy]

You want Anthony Griffin to remain coach?

Tell the team to not give away 18 point leads against the Sharks at home.

no one is saying they want Griffin to remain head coach ... some of us just don't want Bennett...

and if that is proviso to get a coach sacked ... Trent Robinson should also be sacked

 

[ScoreCube]

I have just read this entire thread and am having a chuckle to myself about some of the comments - mainly about Bennett is not for us - he is too old - has left clubs he has coached in a bad way etc
Firstly a bloke who has won 8 premierships in 23 odd years must know a thing or 2 about coaching and man management and weather he is over 60 or not has no relevance to anything.
Secondly we all know that Hook really has no idea about a game plan, how to manage the interchange and from what I can see how to motivate a team and the greater majority of fans want him gone - like now or at worst the end of the season.
Thirdly if we want Hook gone and we do not want Bennett then who is REALLY out there capable of coaching our team to a premiership - I do not hear any suggestions and frankly there is NO one available to do so - so where do we go??????
Fourthly - and here it is folks - bring Bennett back next year as he is by far and away the most credentialed coach available right now - am i correct or not - if I am not then tell me who is our coach next year??????
Remember HENJACKASS - he was appointed by the board to succeed Bennett and what a dismal failure that was
Remember Price was appointed by the dragons board as the successor to Bennett and he failed - not Bennetts fault
Remember in 4 years time a bloke named Bellamy will be leaving the storm and coming home to Brisbane and while he says he wil be retiring I am sure if he was dangled a carrott as Bennetts successor he would grab it in both hands
So IMO for heavens sake get Bennett back in charge - sort the mess out and lets start winning games
Also he will have a very good young but experienced squad next year brimming with talent and he can only make them better
I reckon Boyd will not come back with hime but if he does he will fit in at 5/8th very well me thinks with Milford at Fullback Hoffman on the wing and barba on the bench and for good luck I reckon he will bring GAGAI with him as well - wow what a back line
These are my thoughts

YEah I agree, he has heaps of experience, and given that it probably will be his last run, he will be probably be giving it his all! Pretty excited to see how the next season plays out.

 

[Big Pete]

More thoughts on Wayne...

I completely see both sides of the argument.

Different people are going to have different criteria in terms of what defines the best coach. If you're like me, it comes down to premiership tallies, and in the history of the competition, there is no greater coach than Bennett.

However, some would point out that some very good coaches such as Graham Murray and Brian Smith never won a premiership yet coaches like Hagan & Stuart were lucky to win one, does that make them better coaches? In my view no but different story for another time.

Then you have fans who judge in terms of the style and tactics they introduce, others in terms of how many players improved under their tenure etc etc.

Basically whatever criteria you have, just roll with it. It's cool but don't go ahead and shove it down another persons throat because it gets boring if we all agree.

Now that I've got that kum-by-ya sentiment out of the way.

Wayne certainly is guilty of a lot of things that have been levelled at Hook. I've seen people say Bennett would never sign a player like Lowrie. Were these same people watching in 2001 when a player by the name of Darren Burns played the majority of the games? Heck, some of our best players started off as plodders - Kevin Campion, Harvey Howard anyone? Heck, for those who only know of the thread, you do realise Paul Carige spent a fair time at Brisbane too, right?

As for his tenures at other clubs post Brisbane...

Dragons - Was great. Took a complacent side stuck in a transitional phase and turned them into the most consistent club for three seasons. The gameplan seemed tailored made and played around their strengths which included the second man play from Boyd and Soward's magnificent kicking game.

Knights - Took his gameplan and tried to fit it on the Knights and it just never worked for any extended period of time. For me, he brought in Boyd, so that was half his offence covered, decided Mullen was his Soward, Kidley was his Hornby, Buderus was his Priddis, Snowden was his Weyman and when he couldn't create a Scott or Smith, he just bought them over and picked up whatever scraps he could get his hands on.

2014 was a rough year and it's obviously hurt the side, but his stint was a failure and I believe all the excuses being made are just that. Brisbane had their share of bad fortune too, yet you don't see many people rushing to Hook's aid.

In saying that, I hope he takes Brisbane to their 7th premiership. I look forward to see what he makes of the roster and hope we can get some more closure on Hook's tenure. I'm sure we'll hear more about it in the coming weeks but in the mean time, I'd love to see Hook go out on a high. As we all saw today, the guy has plenty of class and he's never done anything to disgrace this club.

 

[Splinter]

Mullen has talent but lacks brains. Keeps getting caught in the wrong places in offence especially at kicking time

 

[Steve Renouf]

Whether Griffin is our man remains to be seen.

He just got told his services are not required next year. Sacked!

I reckon Boyd will not come back with hime but if he does he will fit in at 5/8th very well me thinks with Milford at Fullback Hoffman on the wing and barba on the bench and for good luck I reckon he will bring GAGAI with him as well - wow what a back line
These are my thoughts

Hell yeah, put Boydy at 5/8th he would carve them up.

 

[Super Freak]

Milford is more talented and a much better option than Boyd at 5/8. Boyd is not even a 5/8's asshole.

 

[Anonymous person]

Oh goody, another "lets take a fullback out of his best and preferred position and try turn him into a five eighth because reason!" Situation lol.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Worked with inglis
and hayne
and gasnier

































oh wait.

 

[Foordy]

[MENTION=1771]QUEENSLANDER[/MENTION] ....you can add Hoffman to that list

 

[Foordy]

apparently Phil Murphy (20% owner) is pissed off with the way things went down. although it may just be that he wasn't informed some direct quotes from him:

“A lot of the players have been very loyal to Hook and he’s been loyal to them,” Murphy told The Courier-Mail.“You don’t know how their minds are going to be now. If they are ten per cent off in their heads, you can’t win games.
“I like Hook. He’s a real good bloke.
“I don’t know what they think they are doing.
“This is very disappointing and that is putting it mildly.
“I’m pretty disgusted that I had no knowledge of this.

“I had no knowledge of what went on with Andrew Gee. No knowledge of Wayne coming, which is a huge decision for the club.
“I own almost 20 per cent. I would have loved to have known (about Wayne).
“What is the point, when you own nearly 20 per cent but don’t have a voice?”

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