The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

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So is the old fella going to the Cowboys or what ?
 
Wayne Bennett showed he still has a few tricks up his sleeve, the way he really schooled Bellyache.

You can try to find any excuses you want... burnout, fatigue, lack of motivation; Fact is that despite having clearly the lesser roster, Newcastle taught the Storm a lesson in finals footy imo.
 
So did Trent Robinson "school" Bennett last night.......?
 
Maybe, he certainly has been schooling pretty much everyone this season. Your point being?
 
Porthoz said:
Wayne Bennett showed he still has a few tricks up his sleeve, the way he really schooled Bellyache.

You can try to find any excuses you want... burnout, fatigue, lack of motivation; Fact is that despite having clearly the lesser roster, Newcastle taught the Storm a lesson in finals footy imo.
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i keep seeing people say that Bennett outcoached bellamy,had some sort of brilliant game plan, and "schooled him"....yet noone has actually given any example of how or what he supposedly did tomake you make these claims?

There was no super game plan, no schooling. They didn't blow them off the park and win by 50 nor did they shut the storm out. They won by 2 points over a team who had been playing averagely for months, and they might not have even won had the refs do their job and award Melbourne the score levelling penalty goal that they deserved.

So can someone please tell me exactly how Bennett supposedly schooled Bellamy in finals football? If he schooled Bellamy in a 2 point win, what did the roosters coach just do to Bennett with his teams emphatic 26 point victory? University'd him? Masters degree'd him? Phd'd him?
 
The Storm were on the back foot all night, despite only losing by 2 points. The Knights came out with a game plan played through their forwards and utilising their outside backs more than they have. They didn't try and beat Melbourne at their own game (ie slow play the balls, winning the wrestle), which so many teams have tried and failed.

It was a different style of play to what the Knights have produced all season, so you would imagine the coach had a fair bit to do with that. The Knights players certainly seemed to think so.

And if you wanna talk about the refs - let's talk about the bullshit McKinnon 'high tackle' penalty that gifted the Storm 6 tackles inside the Knights' 30m which resulted in a try.
 
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The Storm were on the back foot all night, despite only losing by 2 points. The Knights came out with a game plan played through their forwards and utilising their outside backs more than they have. They didn't try and beat Melbourne at their own game (ie slow play the balls, winning the wrestle), which so many teams have tried and failed.

It was a different style of play to what the Knights have produced all season, so you would imagine the coach had a fair bit to do with that. The Knights players certainly seemed to think so.

And if you wanna talk about the refs - let's talk about the bull**** McKinnon 'high tackle' penalty that gifted the Storm 6 tackles inside the Knights' 30m which resulted in a try.
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oh you mean that tackle that hit the storm player in the head, the type that is penalised every single game of every single week throughout the year? That tackle that was correctly penalised?

The rule is rubbish, but its the rule and it was a correct ruling. There is no if, but or maybe - he made contact with the head of the ball carrier so its a penalty.

And gee, a game played through the forwards and then giving the ball to the backs to chance their arm on 4th/5th tackle? Wow, i have literally never seen a game plan like that. Ever. Noone has ever thought to do that in the 100 years of rugby league. Amazing. Its not like that's precisely what most teams do every single week, no, not at all..... Lol
 
The season is over AP, what are you still doing here? Oh right, someone mentioned the Storm... :001_rolleyes:
 
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oh you mean that tackle that hit the storm player in the head, the type that is penalised every single game of every single week throughout the year? That tackle that was correctly penalised?

The rule is rubbish, but its the rule and it was a correct ruling. There is no if, but or maybe - he made contact with the head of the ball carrier so its a penalty.

And gee, a game played through the forwards and then giving the ball to the backs to chance their arm on 4th/5th tackle? Wow, i have literally never seen a game plan like that. Ever. Noone has ever thought to do that in the 100 years of rugby league. Amazing. Its not like that's precisely what most teams do every single week, no, not at all..... Lol
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Oh please. He fell into the tackle, McKinnon didn't even raise his arm. Seen plenty of them let go and not penalised and rightly so.

And where did I say it was this massively game plan that nobody has used before? All I said was that it was different to what the Knights usually play and played specifically to beat Melbourne. Maybe if a certain other coach north of the border would change things up every now and then there might be some happier fans around these parts. And besides, the outside backs were getting the ball before the 4th/5th tackle.
 
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i keep seeing people say that Bennett outcoached bellamy,had some sort of brilliant game plan, and "schooled him"....yet noone has actually given any example of how or what he supposedly did tomake you make these claims?
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I think Bennett's plan against Melbourne has been commented on quite a bit.

Newcastle went into the game with a clear plan to spread the ball wide and use their outside backs. The Knights spread the ball off kick returns and early in the tackle count a lot more than they normally do. I think that was a clear strategy aimed at avoiding a battle in the middle (where Melbourne would obviously have the advantage). instead Bennett focussed on Newcastle's strengths (the speed and skill of their centres and wingers) and targeted Melbourne's weaknesses (some dodgy defence in the outside backs, particularly on Bob Blair's side).

Newcastle played quite differently from what they have for most of the season and it worked very well. that counts as a good change in strategy in my opinion.

edit: appears Jeba beat me to it.
 
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Slater (I think it was) falls into a player's arm, gets a high tackle penalty.
Meanwhile JWH runs with a raised elbow, ends Buderus' season, no penalty.

Which one was the right call?
 
the Slater penalty was wrong. Neither McKinnon or JWH did anything illegal. contact sports can be brutal and sometimes bad hits happen and it isn't due to malicious or careless play, just bad luck
 
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Slater (I think it was) falls into a player's arm, gets a high tackle penalty.
Meanwhile JWH runs with a raised elbow, ends Buderus' season, no penalty.

Which one was the right call?
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Slater one was wrong, he should have been penalised for being on the field.
 
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If he schooled Bellamy in a 2 point win, what did the roosters coach just do to Bennett with his teams emphatic 26 point victory? University'd him? Masters degree'd him? Phd'd him?
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:laugh:
 
Re: Grand Final Memories

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last years grand final was just awesome to watch. it was a legitimate brilliant coach showdown, and bellamy gave hasler a masterclass on coaching against an individual team.
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To reply in the same fashion as you did to me, what was the 40-0 Manly put on the Storm... A Nobel prize worth lesson? :001_tt2:
 
Re: Grand Final Memories

Porthoz said:
To reply in the same fashion as you did to me, what was the 40-0 Manly put on the Storm... A Nobel prize worth lesson? :001_tt2:
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that was the storm without Cameron smith, the most valuable player in the entire league for the last 5+ years. It wasn't any fantastic coaching, it was a great team in great form just steamrolling a team missing their best player.

What the storm did to the bulldogs last year was based upon a great game plan first and foremost designed to shut down barba, the dogs forwards ball movement, and inu/morris. Manly just straight up ran over the top of the storm with sheer force.
 
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