The Wayne Bennett Super thread!

[Big Pete]

Hehehehehehe pwn.

In reality, Kidley means about as much to Newcastle as Mini means to Sydney. Once upon a time, he was their star player but nowadays he's just another vet, who if anything is kind of getting in the way of other talent.

Losing Bedsy mid-match was huge but it looked like Newcastle had already won their grand final last week.

 

[Rabbir]

Re: Sack Griffin? How about sack Thaiday

Dads army has been just as ordinary as we have the last couple of seasons.

Didn't they make a prelim?

 

[Anonymous person]

Re: Sack Griffin? How about sack Thaiday

Didn't they make a prelim?

if you just look at the result you might think they did well, but if you look at HOW they got there it doesnt paint a fantastic picture.

- scrape into finals on 50% win rate
- beat easily the worst team in the finals, who at the time were just pathetic, having just been beaten by the 12th placed broncos and lost their best player to injury during the game. the way the bulldogs played youd almost put money on some of their players having money on the knights.
- undeniably got the rub of the green from the refs to beat an obviously "on their last legs" and out of form storm.
- got absolutely smashed in the preliminary final.

looking at their season and saying it was a success because they made the prelim is like looking at the broncos in 1999 and saying it was a success because they made the finals. the knights couldnt possibly get an easier run to the prelim than they got this year. they had an easy draw all year, barely playing the top teams (and every time they did they lost), yet still only scraped in to the finals because a few other teams like the broncos/titans/warriors were just useless when it came down to crunch time. they beat the easy beats, then the ragged old former champions, then got blown off the park by the first real challenge. had they played ANY other team in round 1 of the finals they wouldve been eliminated there and then.

 

[Dexter]

Well maybe they still would have beaten the poor worn out Storm in rnd 1 but only if the refs helped.:rolleyes:

Was the Storms season a success in any way?

 

[Anonymous person]

Was the Storms season a success in any way?

probably not, no.

made the finals on the back of a poor second half of the year by their standards (and not even a great second half by anyones standards) and then were bundled out of the finals with successive losses.

getting that far as defending premiers could be looked at as a success i suppose, as these days its nearly impossible to go back to back, so getting to the penultimate game takes a mighty effort. the only reason they got there though was because of their unbelievably good first half of the year and the fact that there were so many dud teams at the end of the year that noone seemed capable of moving up the ladder cause they couldnt get successive wins.

so on its own - no.
in context of being the reigning premiers, maybe.

 

[1910]

Re: youth policy

lols

david stagg over dave taylor
mick ryan over luke priddis
steve michaels over ANYONE
stu kelly over ANYONE

keeping mediocre fringe first graders and giving them a spot in the team for life was one of wayne bennetts biggest faults! he had a 'good bloke over good football player' philosophy.

That's not true, he didn't choose Mick Ryan over Priddis. Ryan could have had a long NRL career he did his knee twice and never got back.

Priddie was let go because his asking price was so huge.

 

[broncos4life]

So im going out on a limb here AP, but I'm beginning to think you don't like Wayne Bennett?

 

[Anonymous person]

Re: youth policy

That's not true, he didn't choose Mick Ryan over Priddis. Ryan could have had a long NRL career he did his knee twice and never got back.

Priddie was let go because his asking price was so huge.

not what was said at the time. bennett said mick ryan is the future of the hooker position for the broncos and as such we let priddis go.

nek minit ryan retires and priddis single handedly wins his team a grand final.

 

[Broncoman]

Re: youth policy

not what was said at the time. bennett said mick ryan is the future of the hooker position for the broncos and as such we let priddis go.

nek minit ryan retires and priddis single handedly wins his team a grand final.

And Wayne admits it was a mistake and he now regrets it. I think you mean Peter Ryan.

 

[Anonymous person]

Re: youth policy

And Wayne admits it was a mistake and he now regrets it. I think you mean Peter Ryan.

what does peter ryan have to do with it? your first sentence backs up what im saying, then you pull some BS out for your second sentence. what are you on about?

 

[Broncoman]

Re: youth policy

what does peter ryan have to do with it? your first sentence backs up what im saying, then you pull some BS out for your second sentence. what are you on about?

I've never heard of Mick Ryan and I thought you we're meaning Peter Ryan as he was a hooker as well but went to play Super Rugby for the Brumbies the time Priddis left.

Who's Mick Ryan?

 

[Aldo]

Peter Ryan wasn't a hooker

 

[Anonymous person]

Re: youth policy

I've never heard of Mick Ryan and I thought you we're meaning Peter Ryan as he was a hooker as well but went to play Super Rugby for the Brumbies the time Priddis left.

Who's Mick Ryan?

lolz

mick ryan was the next big thing, much like mccullough. bennett let priddis go because he thought ryan was the clubs future star hooker. he retired after playing like a dozen games, if that.

and peter ryan wasnt a hooker. he was a second rower/lock.

in future maybe refrain from "correcting" me when you dont even know who or what is being discussed.

 

[1910]

Re: youth policy

Hard for you to argue it at all Ap. I mean, I agree with you 100% regarding the style of footy he coaches, it's boring as bat**** but his worth as a coach can't be disputed. You can't argue that he keeps mediocre players and he's a bad coach but has delivered 7 premierships since 1988.

You can't argue that WB is a bad coach and only won because he had superior players but then argue how good Bellamy is when he hasn't been tested without his big 3.

I think CB is a brilliant coach but the fact remains the only time he has been tested as a coach without the big 3 was SoO and whilst that is unfair to judge him on that alone his arse is still glowing from the smacking it got.

I don't want to reignite the WB thing again I'm just pointing out I find it hard to understand how you can't give credit where it's due regardless what you think of his style.

That's not right, Bellamy has been tested with out Slater, Cronk and Smith- when he took them from Norths. They didn't come into the side as the players they're now.


Bellamy is the only coach they have ever had at NRL level and he took a Norths winger (Slater), fullback (Cronk) and second rower (Smith). They'd missed the finals two years in a row, lost a CEO and took a rookie coach and some Norths kids. That's pretty testing.

 

[Anonymous person]

Re: youth policy

That's not right, Bellamy has been tested with out Slater, Cronk and Smith- when he took them from Norths. They didn't come into the side as the players they're now.


Bellamy is the only coach they have ever had at NRL level and he took a Norths winger (Slater), fullback (Cronk) and second rower (Smith). They'd missed the finals two years in a row, lost a CEO and took a rookie coach and some Norths kids. That's pretty testing.

no 1910, they were the 3 best players in the NRL from the moment they made their debut. they were also the best players running around in the lower grades, thats why the broncos passed up on at least 2 of them. the broncos were too scared of how good they were. bellamy played no part in how good theyve become.

or something along those lines im sure.

 

[1910]

Re: youth policy

lolz

mick ryan was the next big thing, much like mccullough. bennett let priddis go because he thought ryan was the clubs future star hooker. he retired after playing like a dozen games, if that.

and peter ryan wasnt a hooker. he was a second rower/lock.

in future maybe refrain from "correcting" me when you dont even know who or what is being discussed.

Same could be said for you.

 

[1910]

Re: youth policy

no 1910, they were the 3 best players in the NRL from the moment they made their debut. they were also the best players running around in the lower grades, thats why the broncos passed up on at least 2 of them. the broncos were too scared of how good they were. bellamy played no part in how good theyve become.

or something along those lines im sure.

Let's not forget Slater fell into their lap, sent to Norths by another Qld Cup team, Cronk no one wanted not even the Storm when he went down to a pre-season they sent him back to Norths saying he won't cut it. Things could of easily gone differently. Storm had some luck in keeping them and in Slater's case getting him.

Broncos didn't pass on two of them.

 

[1910]

Re: youth policy

I've never heard of Mick Ryan and I thought you we're meaning Peter Ryan as he was a hooker as well but went to play Super Rugby for the Brumbies the time Priddis left.

Who's Mick Ryan?

Very good hooker for the Broncos, had terrible luck with knee injuries, did it twice, once against Newcastle at ANZ was a terrible dislocation. He got back to playing football in the Qld Cup for Ipswich and was outstanding still but the NRL train had gone.

He was a quarter of the price of Priddis and Broncos couldn't match the price given by Penrith so they let him go but then Ryan got injured.