Union players not in our salary cap

[BroncsFan]

It restricted to just rugby australia players or all of world rugby? Few kiwis im sure the wahs would be keen on

Good point... NRL is so Sydney centric that they would most likely completely forget about the warriors and just expect them to poach Wallabies.

In reality giving the warriors a license to raid the All Blacks could have a real impact on the game in NZ... unsure which way that impact goes though haha

Kiwis could hate them for trying to tear apart their All Blacks... or it could really spotlight the sport if big names start getting poached

 

[Jedhead]

Not to mention, as others have said, this could move managers to get the best prospects to shift across to union in the expectation of a bigger payday coming back to league. That has the potential to actually help Australian rugby union and send some of the best league talent over there, not all of them will come back. Yet another stupid idea from a stupid management.

Quite easy to put restrictions on it that would avoid this scenario.
Any players who came through the NRL system simply don't qualify regardless if they then moved to union. Provided this move was done before they had played league for any club after turning 16 say.

 

[Xzei]

big gamble for a 16 year old to 'shift' to union on the off chance they are good enough to play pro just to come back to league.doesnt need to be that complicated if a club wants to go out and try get a active super(what ever number it is now) player go for it i say.if they have played in the NRL then no cap relief simples.

 

[1910]

The NRL throw this up every time someone jumps over to Rugby. Since Wendell went- centralised contracts, cap free rugby players it’s all been mooted.

To me the problem has never reached a level where it needs solving.

The best thing the NRL can do is not care. It’s always outside backs and they always come back.

 

[Fitzy]

The NRL throw this up every time someone jumps over to Rugby. Since Wendell went- centralised contracts, cap free rugby players it’s all been mooted.

To me the problem has never reached a level where it needs solving.

The best thing the NRL can do is not care. It’s always outside backs and they always come back.

100% if it’s just capped at wallabies players what the **** are we doing it for. I love union but it’s a broke dying sport they aren’t a big enough problem to ruin the integrity of the cap for.

In saying that if we can go out and get All blacks, Soringboks, English, Fijians, French, Irish etc etc players 100% on board you can increase the quality and eye balls on this sport big time.
Obviously the fact the national game is not very big makes the Springboks, French and Irish especially difficult.

This can grow the game exponentially if applied right. But the last thing you want to see is Broncos, Roosters, Storm, Rabbitohs, Warriors the only clubs being able to attract genuine superstars and become more dominate because the rest can’t get anyone good. It has to be rolled out with heaps of strategy and it’s one of those things where if you **** it up how do you take it back without increasing the cap by 2 million (whatever the proposed figure is) for each team. For me the biggest lack in quality this competition faces is in the halves and there isn’t enough players out there in union who would have specific enough skills to improve that facet. It’s a lot of risk but the reward can be just as high.

What do we do if we find out nobody has a remote interest in coming? What happens then? So much unknown and there will be so much scrutiny it will just never happen.

 

[Santa]

Can we have just one year without changes to the rules/cap...

 

[Wolfie]

The player who sticks out for me as the best i can think of who switched from Union to League was Jonathan Davies. Martin Offiah iirc also went from Union to League.

 

[1910]

The player who sticks out for me as the best i can think of who switched from Union to League was Jonathan Davies. Martin Offiah iirc also went from Union to League.

Michael O’Connor was a sensation.

 

[john1420]

a) there is no-one even close to his quality in union
b) I can't actually remember a union player make it big in rugby league, so I doubt it is going to be an issue.

If the NRL do go down this route, then they need to protect against rorting; e.g players who were in rugby league, but took the money on offer only to try to come back to league a few years later and get some or all of their salary exempt from the cap ... Suaalii, i'm looking at you and the Roosters when i say this

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the idea didn't come from Uncle Nick, who had a whisper in Lord PVL's ear

 

[1910]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the idea didn't come from Uncle Nick, who had a whisper in Lord PVL's ear

Even if it's cap free for a Rugby player, people like Nick Politis are not in the habit of pissing money away.

You have to identity a player you want; be pretty sure he's going to be a success and then maybe waste a spot on your roster.

Even cap free giving a guy 400k to play for the North Sydney Bears makes you look stupid and you're down a spot if he's never up to NRL.

It only gets back at Rugby if you get it right.

 

[Jedhead]

The chances of the NRL (as it stands) getting it right is open for debate. But I'd love to see us take a couple of All Blacks just to increase the coverage of League in NZ and to serve as a warning to stop poaching our (Pacifika) players.

We should be encouraging the British super league to look into doing the same in the Northern hemisphere too.

 

[1910]

The chances of the NRL (as it stands) getting it right is open for debate. But I'd love to see us take a couple of All Blacks just to increase the coverage of League in NZ and to serve as a warning to stop poaching our (Pacifika) players.

We should be encouraging the British super league to look into doing the same in the Northern hemisphere too.

League has got it right a lot of the time when they have dipped into the Rugby pool and it's reasonable to assume now it would be easier to scout a player now then 40 years ago when you would have to go to some long-forgotten field in Canberra to see Ricky Stuart.

League takes players now from GPS schools at 16 they're not even waiting for them to play 12 Tests for the Wallabies.

 

[Jedhead]

League has got it right a lot of the time when they have dipped into the Rugby pool and it's reasonable to assume now it would be easier to scout a player now then 40 years ago when you would have to go to some long-forgotten field in Canberra to see Ricky Stuart.

League takes players now from GPS schools at 16 they're not even waiting for them to play 12 Tests for the Wallabies.

Long may it reign I say.

 

[theshed]

Does anyone think this will drive up NRL player prices more? If Hass sees someone of his quality from union getting 1.5...heaven help our club.

If you don’t make guys who previously were in the NRL ineligible it will result in guys like Haas doing 2 years in union so he can return to the nrl on $3m a year under the exemption rule

 

[mstreet]

If you don’t make guys who previously were in the NRL ineligible it will result in guys like Haas doing 2 years in union so he can return to the nrl on $3m a year under the exemption rule

Could see Hass doing this. I used Hass as a quick money hungry quality player. But I could see many players exploiting this. Loyalty in both sides is dead. I wonder if this works to unions advantage. It would get a lot of quality cycling through union, to come back to NRL. Quality that union wouldn't usually have.

 

[mstreet]

I don't know union on a global scale, but it would be very tempting for an international union player to transition to NRL. There's good living to be made. Regular pay checks for quality.

 

[john1420]

Even if it's cap free for a Rugby player, people like Nick Politis are not in the habit of pissing money away.

You have to identity a player you want; be pretty sure he's going to be a success and then maybe waste a spot on your roster.

Even cap free giving a guy 400k to play for the North Sydney Bears makes you look stupid and you're down a spot if he's never up to NRL.

It only gets back at Rugby if you get it right.

I was specifically thinking of one Joseph Sua'ali'i

 

[theshed]

Could see Hass doing this. I used Hass as a quick money hungry quality player. But I could see many players exploiting this. Loyalty in both sides is dead. I wonder if this works to unions advantage. It would get a lot of quality cycling through union, to come back to NRL. Quality that union wouldn't usually have.

It definitely has the ability to backfire. It’s essentially incentivising players to go to union first to get a better nrl contract later in their career