Wayne Bennett confirmed as 2015 coach of Brisbane Broncos

[Huge]

Did not happen that way. Deal was done behind the board's back by the majority share holders with Bennett's knowledge. The board was presented with a consummated fact!

The only thing I didn't get confirmed is whether the affair was initiated by WB or not, but my respect for the man is gone. I just hope I don't have to say the same about the coach 3 years from now.

P.S. Sorry to burst your bubble...

The majority share holders decided with WBs knowledge you say.....you know that how ? You've had it confirmed you say, boy you must know some powerful people who could relate to you what went on in private, and one would assume secret meetings.You also say you've lost respect for WB even though you don't know for certain whether or not it was initiated by WB. You've burst no bubbles here.

The majority share holders, according to you did as they were told by a football coach. Mmmmmm, I see. Sounds like good business practice. I find it amazing that one of the worlds richest men, one of the worlds most powerful businessmen was powerless in the face of a demand from WB. That doesn't strike you as odd ? I just hope poor old Wayne can struggle on without the respect he apparently had from you Porthoz.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

I consider the term competition superstar to include players like Cronk, DCE, Cam Smith, Slater, Inglis, thurston and hayne etc etc. Are the above players in that category? probably not........could they eventually......Yes

and only Bennett can do that hey? Milford seems to be doing fine without him

Dont watch many raiders game do u? Milford is basically their sole point of attack and he has games where he single handedly tears apart the other team. He is a superstar of our competition already. Fact.

Hunt is also carrying his team. He is the broncos sole play maker and is up there with the leaders in try assists and line breaks. If it wasn't for a very selfish dce in game 2, he would have an origin under his belt too. He is a star. If hunt continues the way he is, he could be the next Cronk, with or without Bennett. It's just convenient for Bennett lovers that the year in which hunt will probably establish himself as one of the best halves in the nrl, will just happen to be the year Bennett takes over.

Look at it this way, Bennett will take over with a team that has:
The games most exciting talent in milford
The nrls best new half (along with brooks, maybe, but nsw are blowing that kid up too much)
The qld back row in gillet, Parker and thaiday
an Australian centre
The 2012 dally m winner
A massive chance to not only go deep into the finals, but also win the title in 2014

Fact of the matter is, hook will take this team pretty high this year. With Milford joining us, and with hunt having a full year at half anything less than a top 4 finish next year will be a failure.

 

[Foordy]

Fact of the matter is, hook will take this team pretty high this year. With Milford joining us, and with hunt having a full year at half anything less than a top 4 finish next year will be a failure.

even if we miss top 4 next year i'm sure people will find excuses for Bennett.

The majority share holders decided with WBs knowledge you say.....you know that how ? You've had it confirmed you say, boy you must know some powerful people who could relate to you what went on in private, and one would assume secret meetings.You also say you've lost respect for WB even though you don't know for certain whether or not it was initiated by WB. You've burst no bubbles here.

The majority share holders, according to you did as they were told by a football coach. Mmmmmm, I see. Sounds like good business practice. I find it amazing that one of the worlds richest men, one of the worlds most powerful businessmen was powerless in the face of a demand from WB. That doesn't strike you as odd ? I just hope poor old Wayne can struggle on without the respect he apparently had from you Porthoz.

Maybe Murdoch really wanted Bennett back and once he found out Bennett was on the market he found out that Bennett wanted to come back, and Murdoch made it happen.

Then when Murdoch leaned on the board, they folded and did what he wanted. hence why several board members are pissed off about how things went down.

 

[Huge]

As far as I know Milford is a work in progress and is not a superstar yet, whatever the **** a superstar is. He has not played rep football. The best in the game have already proven their elite status. Milford has the potential to join the elite but he is not there yet, he is an up and comer at this time. Many coaches could put some shine on him, there's no doubt about that. The competition has quite a few elite coaches. No one is suggesting that only WB could assist.

Many coaches would love the opportunity to coach Brisbane in 2015 but of the ones available, none other than Bennett were asked to do the job. Sure, the decision makers, the faceless back room boys may have wanted someone else but probably not. They decided the job was WBs if he wanted it. Even WB does not have the power to tell,demand or instruct others that he was taking the job whether they liked it or not. A job was available, he applied and was successful. Get over it.

 

[Huge]

Quote by Foordy

Maybe Murdoch really wanted Bennett back and once he found out Bennett was on the market he found out that Bennett wanted to come back, and Murdoch made it happen.

Then when Murdoch leaned on the board, they folded and did what he wanted. hence why several board members are pissed off about how things went down......Foordy




Thats pretty much what I've suggested.......no blame there for WB unless people expected him to turn the job down when it was offered. He did say he wouldn't take someone else's job unless the job was available. Maybe Murdoch simply wanted his man and got him.

 

[morethanjack]

Welp I'm just guna miss the Sack Griffin/New Coach tread popping up after every game.

I would be pretty interested in the reaction had this had happened after our string of losses or even after the sharks game.

 

[Foordy]

there is certainly blame for Bennett if he initiated contact with Murdoch. The correct way to do it would have been to contact the board to offer his services (apply for a job if you like).

If Murdoch initiated contact and then leaned on the board to make it happen, probably no blame to Bennett.

depends on who initiated contact.

having said that, the board doing what the major shareholder wanted is not the best way to run the club. It was the boards responsibility to get the best person to coach the club, not just who the major shareholder wanted. If that person happened to be Bennett, then so be it, but it sounds as if the board never even looked an any other options.

weak as piss on their part

 

[Rabbir]

I'll only believe the stuff in the media that backs up my point of view.

 

[MaroubraBroncos]

and only Bennett can do that hey? Where have i said anything about bennett being the only coach to be able to do that??? i was anti-griffon, i didn't care who took over. Milford seems to be doing fine without him What a vague and stupid response.
Dont watch many raiders game do u? Milford is basically their sole point of attack and he has games where he single handedly tears apart the other team. He is a superstar of our competition already. Fact. no doubting the kid is a freak and will rep qld in SOO and rep Aus but calling him a superstar now? Not sure about that

Hunt is also carrying his team. He is the broncos sole play maker and is up there with the leaders in try assists and line breaks. If it wasn't for a very selfish dce in game 2, he would have an origin under his belt too. He is a star. If hunt continues the way he is, he could be the next Cronk, with or without Bennett. It's just convenient for Bennett lovers that the year in which hunt will probably establish himself as one of the best halves in the nrl, will just happen to be the year Bennett takes over. You say that the bennett lovers are blind with their love of the guy, you're the exact opposite. Blinded by the hatred of the guy.

Look at it this way, Bennett will take over with a team that has:
The games most exciting talent in milford
The nrls best new half (along with brooks, maybe, but nsw are blowing that kid up too much)
The qld back row in gillet, Parker and thaiday
an Australian centre
The 2012 dally m winner
A massive chance to not only go deep into the finals, but also win the title in 2014

There's no denying that he will take over a very good squad, but my thoughts for a long time was that griff wasn't going to win us a premiership if things continued to carry on. He was stubborn and made changes far too late, were other coaches would of done something awhile ago. The whole hoffman at 5/8 saga is my game set and match. He had to go!
Will bennett win us a premiership??? who knows.....Are we a better chance of winning a premiership without griffon as coach....yes!

Fact of the matter is, hook will take this team pretty high this year. With Milford joining us, and with hunt having a full year at half anything less than a top 4 finish next year will be a failure.

 

[Mosyzlak]

This is certainly, albeit not surprisingly, the most dividing thread I have seen on this forum in the short time I have been a member. It almost resembles a parliament with a number of people strongly sitting on the left or right and a few people in the middle trying to make the whole discussion work!

I can see points on both sides but a lot of what is being said here is purely either conjecture or a precursor to an 'I told you so' next year, or some watered down version of one.

My main hope is that this doesn't dilute the staunch support for the Broncos I've always come to expect on this forum as well as at the games (the ones I can get to living in NSW). We've all been through hard times with all three coaches and through some bloody exciting times under two of them. The win vs St George in 2011 was unforgettable and I'll always know where I was when I saw that pearler of a field goal.

That being said I think the vast majority of us wanted something big to change, whether that was the coach, players, staff, board members or personnel. We were never going to change all of those, but had to change something. We did get Peter Nolan and Alex Corvo which from general opinion both seem to be well supported decisions. We did recruit in the off season but this has been less widely supported as the season has progressed. We eventually changed the player filling our most revered role of 5/8...this is still up in the air as to whether Barba can add enough value to that position though the added certainty at the back is welcomed. And we eventually decided to change our coach next year.

All in all I think the Broncos have been moving in the right direction with an expected dose of uncertainty in some decisions made due to having a need to fill a gap and having a limited market to shop in. I didn't have strong opinions on who was better in a Bennett vs Griffin match up prior to this announcement (although I did have an opinion which blended with the general sentiment on here) but I do know that I will meet 2015 with a strong sense of optimism which I hope runs through the playing squad as well.

By the same token I'll look forward to every game for the rest of this year even if we end up mathematically out of contention to make the eight. It's much easier to criticise from the sideline or the couch but despite some of the failed efforts I think this squad is showing some guts in a rough time for the club. Let's hope it gives us some extra grit next week, next month and next year and we can finally hold our heads high with a run deep into the finals either this year or in one very soon.

 

[Huge]

The board contacted Bennett months ago, and on numerous occasions, to the point of stalking him. That blows all the rest of this mindless conjecture out of the water so let's move on. Bennett answered their cries for help. Simple.

So you're saying the board did want WB months ago and Murdoch supported that ,yes ? If that's true and it seems likely that it is then WB acted honourably as I've come to expect. He stated he didn't want to take someone's job unless the position was vacant. It seems likely he was contacted and told what was about to happen then rang Murdoch to confirm his interest. That seems to be a reasonable progression. I suppose if people want to find fault they will but I've always believed WB is a honourable man.

 

[Porthoz]

The majority share holders decided with WBs knowledge you say.....you know that how ? You've had it confirmed you say, boy you must know some powerful people who could relate to you what went on in private, and one would assume secret meetings.You also say you've lost respect for WB even though you don't know for certain whether or not it was initiated by WB. You've burst no bubbles here.

The majority share holders, according to you did as they were told by a football coach. Mmmmmm, I see. Sounds like good business practice. I find it amazing that one of the worlds richest men, one of the worlds most powerful businessmen was powerless in the face of a demand from WB. That doesn't strike you as odd ? I just hope poor old Wayne can struggle on without the respect he apparently had from you Porthoz.

Wow, the delusion is strong with you.

Maybe you should re-read what I wrote.

Where did I say that the majority shareholders did as they were told by Wayne?

Whether it was initiated by WB or not is irrelevant. The deal took place behind closed doors and was presented to the board as consummated fact. What and how it happened behind those doors is irrelevant as well, but the fact is it happened. It took place without knowledge of the board and with knowledge of Bennett, otherwise how else would it be consummated?

I don't want you to take my word for it, but how about the guy who has 20% of the shares, actually sits on the board, and is so pissed off, he came out in public. He must be lying because he must have an agenda against WB, right? :rolleyes:
It's also quite amazing how quickly this information is leaking out from a place normally hermetically shut, as the Broncos board room is.

No matter how much you try to twist this, the man's reputation and integrity is tarnished. But feel free to keep him on a pedestal and drinking all the koolaid.

You're right though, he will undoubtedly have no qualms with the lost respect from me and many others, as the cash lining his pockets will more than make up for it, since this time it's apparently not disrespectful.

Oh, and I'll have even less qualms about you believing me, Wayne, Murphy or in the Easter Bunny.

 

[Kaz]

If journo Andrew Webster is telling the truth. (on James Bracey sport show last night, 22/7/14), Bennett did contact Murdoch.

Andrew Webster said most of the Broncos board had their doubts about WB.

 

[Porthoz]

@symbolsoup , you must be embedded with some powerful people to know all of that. :wink:

But wait, did you say members of the board? And did the board make the decision to chase Wayne, or were that individuals acting of their own accord?
Also out of curiosity, was any official Broncos offer made to Bennett prior to his decision to join the Broncos?
Finally, when were Griffin and White informed of "the board's" decision?

 

[Porthoz]

If journo Andrew Webster is telling the truth. (on James Bracey sport show last night, 22/7/14), Bennett did contact Murdoch.

Andrew Webster said most of the Broncos board had their doubts about WB.

It's a conspiracy, lies to conspurcate Wayne Bennett's honour!

True story.

 

[Foordy]

I'm sorry [MENTION=8282]symbolsoup[/MENTION] but I can't imagine a Broncos board member telling a member of the public anything regarding what's happening behind the scenes at the club.

Traditionally they don't leak anything before it happens. The only reason I see that it leaked this time was the involvement of Murdoch

 

[Super Freak]

As far as I know Milford is a work in progress and is not a superstar yet, whatever the **** a superstar is. He has not played rep football. The best in the game have already proven their elite status. Milford has the potential to join the elite but he is not there yet, he is an up and comer at this time. Many coaches could put some shine on him, there's no doubt about that. The competition has quite a few elite coaches. No one is suggesting that only WB could assist.

Many coaches would love the opportunity to coach Brisbane in 2015 but of the ones available, none other than Bennett were asked to do the job. Sure, the decision makers, the faceless back room boys may have wanted someone else but probably not. They decided the job was WBs if he wanted it. Even WB does not have the power to tell,demand or instruct others that he was taking the job whether they liked it or not. A job was available, he applied and was successful. Get over it.

Actually, he has.

Not the same level as the superstars, but he has played rep footy.

 

[Foordy]

The Courier Mail is reporting that several Broncos assistants could get sacked when Bennett takes over. Not really surprising. But I'm wondering what the people who want Bennett back if a scenario that the courier mail suggests actually happens.

The main points the courier mail suggest as a possibility iare:

Corvo - sacked
Kearney - will keep his job.

That would just be wrong if that happens

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