Who would come to play for us?

If we can't get any big name player to sign with us we should be trying to sign up as much of the young gun QLD talent we can from the Under 20's comp. Can't believe we provided only forwards for the under 20's origin.
 
Big Dave said:
We should just wait till the end of 2014. There's a player that we let go off that comes off contract.. I heard he goes okay at fullback
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Agree, When Hunts contract with the AFL expires in 2014 we should make a play to bring him back.
 
Coxy said:
Broncos turned down Ben Barba and Billy Slater because they were too small.
They're 90kg and 5 foot 8.

Sam Tomkins is 5 foot 9 and 80kg. Fair bit lighter, pound for pound, but no reason to think he can't add 5kg onto that frame and be successful. Slater and Barba were lighter when they made their debuts, that's for sure.

Darren Lockyer weighed in around 80kg until 2003. He bulked up when moving to the front line to play 5/8.

I don't think his size should be a consideration on whether to sign him or not. However, the point about a sizeable transfer fee and salary for a player who's untested against good defence week in week out is a valid question which would need to be asked.

Is his recruitment a laughable suggestion as Bull Shark seems to imply? No.
Is his recruitment the single most important thing to happen in the history of mankind as broncospwn seems to imply? No.

From what I've seen of him, weighing up the pros and cons, signing him would be worthwhile if the price was right, and that'd probably mean a back ended deal based on performance in the NRL, and get out clauses at year 2 to return to the ESL if he's just not cutting it.
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What you say is true, although, at some point, someone will be signing a contract while others ponder fine detail
 
Bull Shark said:
yeah and that's the only reason I weighed in on this (pardon the pun) - because the dollar figures being spoken about by some folks to get this guy were ridiculous imo for a lightweight fullback who hasn't played one minute of NRL ... I have no problem if the broncos want to sign Sam Tomkins, but not if they have to 'sell the farm' in order to do so
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You still haven't said why it matters if he's a lightweight. Bowen is 84kg, he's been a damn good fullback?

If Norman is worth 450k then Tomkins is worth 700k, he's easily a much better fullback.
 
broncospwn said:
You still haven't said why it matters if he's a lightweight. Bowen is 84kg, he's been a damn good fullback?

If Norman is worth 450k then Tomkins is worth 700k, he's easily a much better fullback.
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It matters because he's completely unproven in the NRL, which is at least one class above England.. that along with the fact that there aren't any 79kg fullbacks in the NRL worth 700 large a season ... but if you think he's worth it, good for you.. I'm just glad you're not in charge of the broncos' recruitment.

Now how bout you tell me why he's worth 700 grand with something a little more substantial than 'because he kicks ass in England'
 
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I already have, your only argument is his weight, that's it. And he's proven to be a star at his current weight so that argument doesn't hold any water.

Besides, every player who has come from England has been top class NRL quality, so the whole England being a level below doesn't mean much either.

Once again, he's 83KG as per Wigan's profile which is his official profile and Matty Bowen is 84kg...
 
broncospwn said:
Besides, every player who has come from England has been top class NRL quality, so the whole England being a level below doesn't mean much either.
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Apples and oranges.

Graham, Burgessx3, Ellis = forwards.
Tomkins = back.

The ESL style of play looks faster simply because it's more one out. There's less ball movement and more work done by the forwards. More work = they tire, which is when players like Tomkins can take advantage with their speed.

IMO it would be so much harder for a half or fullback to dominate the NRL like he did the ESL, than it would be for a forward. When the poms play against Australia, some of their set play execution is laughable and they arent much better than defending it.

He'd be worth looking at - but not throwing butt loads of money at.

And spwn seriously, some of the names you've thrown up for us to sign, the Broncos used to laugh at the idea of even thinking about it. It was one of the reasons that we werent just another club in this competition. The founding fathers of Porky, Maranta & co established a culture in this club from day one. Sacrificing that culture by throwing money around at injury prone players who show no respect for fellow players and coaching staff was not part of that. Neither was throwing money at flash in the pan halfbacks who got dropped to Bartercard Cup or whatever they call it in NZ.
 
broncospwn said:
I already have, your only argument is his weight, that's it. And he's proven to be a star at his current weight so that argument doesn't hold any water.

Besides, every player who has come from England has been top class NRL quality, so the whole England being a level below doesn't mean much either.

Once again, he's 83KG as per Wigan's profile which is his official profile and Matty Bowen is 84kg...
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lmfao .... for the final time ... his weight is the reason I don't think he's worth paying the amount of money YOU believe he's worth straight out of the gate... I don't have any qualms about the broncos picking him up but not for anything near the utterly ridiculous figure you quoted.

If this so-called 'Billy Slater of the English Super League' proves to be as good as Billy Slater of the NRL, then and only then will he be worth that sort of money.

Until then, he has to prove he can cut it here and is worth forking out big for ...

ffs it's pretty damn logical mate ...
 
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Bull Shark said:
lmfao .... for the final time ... his weight is the reason I don't think he's worth paying the amount of money YOU believe he's worth straight out of the gate... I don't have any qualms about the broncos picking him up but not for anything near the utterly ridiculous figure you quoted.

If this so-called 'Billy Slater of the English Super League' proves to be as good as Billy Slater of the NRL, then and only then will he be worth that sort of money.

Until then, he has to prove he can cut it here and is worth forking out big for ...

ffs it's pretty damn logical mate ...
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And how does he prove he can cut it here.
 
Jeba said:
Apples and oranges.

Graham, Burgessx3, Ellis = forwards.
Tomkins = back.

The ESL style of play looks faster simply because it's more one out. There's less ball movement and more work done by the forwards. More work = they tire, which is when players like Tomkins can take advantage with their speed.

IMO it would be so much harder for a half or fullback to dominate the NRL like he did the ESL, than it would be for a forward. When the poms play against Australia, some of their set play execution is laughable and they arent much better than defending it.

He'd be worth looking at - but not throwing butt loads of money at.

And spwn seriously, some of the names you've thrown up for us to sign, the Broncos used to laugh at the idea of even thinking about it. It was one of the reasons that we werent just another club in this competition. The founding fathers of Porky, Maranta & co established a culture in this club from day one. Sacrificing that culture by throwing money around at injury prone players who show no respect for fellow players and coaching staff was not part of that. Neither was throwing money at flash in the pan halfbacks who got dropped to Bartercard Cup or whatever they call it in NZ.
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Fair enough post, some valid reasoning there for why he might not be a superstar here.

Still though, Shaun Johnson and Tomkins are two players I'd love for us to make a play for. Dugan, meh, I was keen for him to come but I'm ok if he never plays in a Broncos jersey. If he gets his shit together though and the club accepts that I'd have no problem seeing him lining up for us.
 
Big Dave said:
Wrong Hunt gangstar.
I don't think Justin will be playing fullback anytime soon with Inglis there
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J.Hunt has struggled to find a place at any NRL club, We don't need more stop gap solutions. We already have Kemp who while hasn't shown much/anything the last few years has at least shown more than J.Hunt in his career.
 
Jeba said:
Apples and oranges.

Graham, Burgessx3, Ellis = forwards.
Tomkins = back.

The ESL style of play looks faster simply because it's more one out. There's less ball movement and more work done by the forwards. More work = they tire, which is when players like Tomkins can take advantage with their speed.

IMO it would be so much harder for a half or fullback to dominate the NRL like he did the ESL, than it would be for a forward. When the poms play against Australia, some of their set play execution is laughable and they arent much better than defending it.

He'd be worth looking at - but not throwing butt loads of money at.

And spwn seriously, some of the names you've thrown up for us to sign, the Broncos used to laugh at the idea of even thinking about it. It was one of the reasons that we werent just another club in this competition. The founding fathers of Porky, Maranta & co established a culture in this club from day one. Sacrificing that culture by throwing money around at injury prone players who show no respect for fellow players and coaching staff was not part of that. Neither was throwing money at flash in the pan halfbacks who got dropped to Bartercard Cup or whatever they call it in NZ.
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brian carney was a gun over here. made the team of the year in his only year over here
 
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