NEWS Why Haas Rejected 6m Offer

[Foordy]

We'll see.

Remember when TPJ was having chats with Uncle Nick?

And he still hasn't signed with them despite us telling him to piss off

 

[broncos4life]

No different to every other NRL journo.

But it doesn't take a genius to connect the dots.

1 - Roosters pilfer the best talent with the help of uncle Nick.
2 - SBW and Nasser are in Haas ear.
3 - Contract drama and recent discontent with his paycheck.
4 - Rejecting a 6 million dollar long term deal.
5 - A lot of his mates have left the Broncos in recent times.

Not sure if that's what you consider a meltdown, but you cant deny the clues all line up.

Obviously we are not privy to all the information and it could just be sensationalist journalism, but it might also be more than that.

I was referring to the buying the bullshit about his contract being null and void if he wins his case against his agent.

 

[Foordy]

Yep, an NRL contract isn't worth the paper its written on.
However i imagine its a lot harder to get out of, if one of the parties doesn't want the contract to end.

They actually are.

It's just that clubs tend to release a player that isn't happy. Either player or club can enforce their contracts.

 

[broncos4life]

To be completely honest I am sick of this bullshit from players. If Haas wants to go then fucking go but the Roosters need to give us a decent player in return.

The club needs to get back to the days where no one is bigger than the club and the entitles ***** can **** off.

 

[Midean]

It is not necessarily the case he has rejected the offer, it appears two be more that he cannot sign a contract until the situation with Orr is sorted. Otherwise he would be at danger of owing him commission on the new contract. I think we should collectively take a deep breath and calm down.

I agree but a precedence has been set in resent times with the likes of Fifita and Coates, so there is some trepidation when it comes to our best players.

 

[Midean]

They actually are.

It's just that clubs tend to release a player that isn't happy. Either player or club can enforce their contracts.

Yep, it just seems far too easy to work around and manipulate loopholes.
I cant remember the details, but im pretty sure Canberra didnt want to let Milford go, but he got let go regardless.
Same with SBW and the doggies.
Boyd and the Knights.
Moses and the Tigers.
Holmes and the Sharks.

The list go's on and on, and the reasons for breaking contracts vary wildly.

 

[theshed]

To be completely honest I am sick of this bullshit from players. If Haas wants to go then fucking go but the Roosters need to give us a decent player in return.

The club needs to get back to the days where no one is bigger than the club and the entitles ***** can **** off.

What’s Haas said or done wrong?

 

[Dash]

Yep, it just seems far too easy to work around and manipulate loopholes.
I cant remember the details, but im pretty sure Canberra didnt want to let Milford go, but he got let go regardless.
Same with SBW and the doggies.
Boyd and the Knights.
Moses and the Tigers.
Holmes and the Sharks.

The list go's on and on, and the reasons for breaking contracts vary wildly.

Milford wasn't let go, he finished his contract with the Raiders.

 

[Foordy]

Yep, it just seems far too easy to work around and manipulate loopholes.
I cant remember the details, but im pretty sure Canberra didnt want to let Milford go, but he got let go regardless.
Same with SBW and the doggies.
Boyd and the Knights.
Moses and the Tigers.
Holmes and the Sharks.

The list go's on and on, and the reasons for breaking contracts vary wildly.

Milford tried to use a get out clause in his contract Canberra refused to allow him and forced him to see out the final year.

The Bulldogs took SBW to court preventing him from playing for Toulon... it was only after Mundine paid a $750k settlement, that the agreed to release him.

The Tigers and Knights didn't want Moses or Boyd respectively... and the players (especially Boyd) were happy to move on

 

[McHunt]

What’s Haas said or done wrong?

Payne has said and done absolutely nothing wrong. He has a dispute with his agent, that might potentially impact his Broncos contract, but we know the club is anxious to retain him and he has said nothing to suggest he wants to leave in the next three years.

There is nothing wrong with him looking up to Sonny Bill as a mentor that falls outside a question of taste in friends. He has every reason and right to make sure he can earn the most in his bright but fleeting time in the sun, and, if indeed, his agent misled him then so be it. The matter is in the courts, where it belongs. It's not up to us to judge the fine print.

The media also has every reason to take interest in this case, as it does other cases concerning high profile individuals in legal disputes. And they have every reason to speculate on the implications to a sporting club that leads the news cycle in this town.

We just have to be patient, and listen to what Payne himself is saying. He is being very clear that he's letting others deal with his financial and contractual wrangles so he can concentrate on his football. He's behaving impeccably.

 

[McHunt]

To be completely honest I am sick of this bullshit from players. If Haas wants to go then fucking go but the Roosters need to give us a decent player in return.

The club needs to get back to the days where no one is bigger than the club and the entitles ***** can **** off.

It's actually the other way around. The club lost the trust of the players. That's why Coates left for less money. Part of the rebuild is regaining that trust.

 

[Galah]

What is the actual contract issue that’s with the courts atm?

 

[broncos4life]

It's actually the other way around. The club lost the trust of the players. That's why Coates left for less money. Part of the rebuild is regaining that trust.

I’m not sure how that is the other way around to what I said, sideways at best.

 

[mrslong]

Someone needs to tell Payne that his legacy if he takes the broncos to their first premiership since Lockyer would be >>>> if he went to win a premiership with the roosters or storm.

getting any old ring doesn’t instantly make you legend.

I guess he could do a Lebron, but isn’t it better to be a Jordan?

 

[McHunt]

I’m not sure how that is the other way around to what I said, sideways at best.

You're demanding some kind of slave-like fealty to the club, who - in the eyes of many players - have acted very shabbily over the last few years, going back to the treatment of Wayne Bennett. You might even wonder who the club is, given it's had a complete overhaul since then. Is it Karl Morris and News Corp?

We tried to bulk poach the Melbourne Storm, including their coach and captain, and managed to pinch their CEO. We promised the captaincy to Payne (never going to happen), Patty (might happen) and God knows who else, probably Tom Dearden at one stage. Kotoni got baited and switched with a promise of playing 5/8th (never going to happen), etc.

We were the laughing stock of the league when Boyd was lying on the ground watching tries being scored. Then we became pathetic.

The club has everything to prove right now. It's coming off a wooden spoon, which could easily have extended into last year. We've had serious money issues. And players who were touted as the "future of the club" like Tom Dearden weren't even offered contracts. Popular characters like Lodge, Macca and TPJ got horsetraded amidst furious denials. And we sacked a coach we'd only just poached from Souths, amid a hullabaloo of weird sex rumours.

The club has been rotten to the very core, and is still yet to deserve respect. Some of us see signs we're beginning to earn it, but we're the optimists. It's a wonder Payne hasn't already jumped ship. Let's give him credit to be one of the few still clinging to the mast.

 

[Kimlo]

What is the actual contract issue that’s with the courts atm?

The crux of the issue is Haas was made to sign a 6 year contract, exactly one day before the NRL changed the rules where a player had a minimum 2 year term with management and could then exit with 3 months notice. Because he signed one day before that rule change, he has to stick with the management for the entire 6 years and pay the fees that come with it.

Orr never told Haas about the change that was planned the next day, and so (IMO) he definitely did not act in his client's best interests.

 

[Galah]

The crux of the issue is Haas was made to sign a 6 year contract, exactly one day before the NRL changed the rules where a player had a minimum 2 year term with management and could then exit with 3 months notice. Because he signed one day before that rule change, he has to stick with the management for the entire 6 years and pay the fees that come with it.

Orr never told Haas about the change that was planned the next day, and so (IMO) he definitely did not act in his client's best interests.

Ahhhhh shit…

 

[McHunt]

Orr never told Haas about the change that was planned the next day, and so (IMO) he definitely did not act in his client's best interests.

It's an interesting one. I'm not sure Orr would've been obligated to tell Payne that. I can see how he could quite easily raise a defence against it. No idea which way it would go.

It's a bit like selling a car to someone the day before a sale - that's been advertised - starts. The vendor would be under no obligation to tell the buyer given the information is out there. Obviously the buyer could return it and repurchase it within the cooling off period. But not a couple of years later.