OFFICIAL Xavier Coates Leaves Broncos

[Kimlo]

I don't agree with that, the reality is players will always want to go to teams going well. You will always stay there for less.

Remember Parker saying no to the Dogs for 100k less in 2000- just because you're not the Broncos. 21 years ago 100k was more than double his wage. I have no idea where the Broncos and Dogs were on the table when that offer was made but he still turned it down and that was how Brisbane negotiations went most times.

You can get 80k here but win premierships or 180k at the Bulldogs- stay thanks.

Your example doesn't work, because my hypothetical rule would only apply when poaching a player. It's fine to lose a player to a club that is willing to pay more, but to lose a player to a club who is paying less reeks of BS.

Don't get me wrong, I think players should be free to go wherever they want, but if the point of a salary cap is an "even" competition then it falls apart horrendously when the top teams can then buy players from the bottom teams for less than the bottom teams are offering. The bottom dwellers are effectively operating at negative cap in that scenario.

 

[Galah]

Your example doesn't work, because my hypothetical rule would only apply when poaching a player. It's fine to lose a player to a club that is willing to pay more, but to lose a player to a club who is paying less reeks of BS.

Don't get me wrong, I think players should be free to go wherever they want, but if the point of a salary cap is an "even" competition then it falls apart horrendously when the top teams can then buy players from the bottom teams for less than the bottom teams are offering. The bottom dwellers are effectively operating at negative cap in that scenario.

The cap barely ever works and really it only works when you have a draft every year and then that drafted player is a restricted free agent for 5 years after.

I still think if you were to take away the deals done with a year left on said players contract, teams would be able to retain players easier.

 

[BroncosFever]

At the very least teams shouldn't be able to sign players lower on the ladder for less than their current club is offering. Otherwise why have a salary cap?

It's true what is being said that it's not fair but it's going to be impossible to hear it from a Brisbane fan, for the best part of 20 years we were re-signing rep players for a pie and a coke when they had offers from other clubs

 

[BroncosFever]

The salary cap in this format makes it really hard for teams to get off the bottom of the ladder

 

[broncos4life]

I don't agree with that, the reality is players will always want to go to teams going well. You will always stay there for less.

Remember Parker saying no to the Dogs for 100k less in 2000- just because you're not the Broncos. 21 years ago 100k was more than double his wage. I have no idea where the Broncos and Dogs were on the table when that offer was made but he still turned it down and that was how Brisbane negotiations went most times.

You can get 80k here but win premierships or 180k at the Bulldogs- stay thanks.

Yeah which is why a salary cap doesn’t work without a draft as it allows the bottom teams a way to get in good talent and not just allow the best to get better.

 

[Dexter]

The NRL could do worse than consider a points system and no cap.
All players get allocated a value and the 30 man squad can only add up to a certain amount.
Say 150 points for the total squad and players ranked from 1 to 10.
They could give discounts for developed players and 5 year same club players etc.

 

[Jedhead]

The NRL could do worse than consider a points system and no cap.
All players get allocated a value and the 30 man squad can only add up to a certain amount.
Say 150 points for the total squad and players ranked from 1 to 10.
They could give discounts for developed players and 5 year same club players etc.

I like. It would stop teams hoarding players and of course it doesn't matter how much they pay them under the table it's the transparent point value that counts.

 

[McHunt]

Coates:

“The Broncos are a great club and they have played a huge role in helping me get to where I am today. This was a really hard decision to make but I promise that I will give my best for the Broncos, my teammates and our fans every moment for the rest of the year.”

McHunt

 

[Midean]

Coates:

“The Broncos are a great club and they have played a huge role in helping me get to where I am today. This was a really hard decision to make but I promise that I will give my best for the Broncos, my teammates and our fans every moment for the rest of the year.”

McHunt

I don't want to see him in a Broncos jersey ever again.

 

[Jedhead]

Coates:

“The Broncos are a great club and they have played a huge role in helping me get to where I am today. This was a really hard decision to make but I promise that I will give my best for the Broncos, my teammates and our fans every moment for the rest of the year.”

McHunt

If only we could find a winger with that sort of commitment. He'd be an asset to the club and of course because we developed him he'd want to pay us back by helping us back to the top again. One of the reasons everyone is poaching our youth is because they know if they came through the Broncos system they're well worth having. No other club develops players like us.

Those at the top have fiddled while Rome burned. With Kevvie and DD in charge that will soon all change and we'll be bigger and better than before.
There will be nothing sweeter than when we do get back up than giving the Storm an absolute flogging.

Mark my words its coming.

 

[McHunt]

If only we could find a winger with that sort of commitment. He'd be an asset to the club and of course because we developed him he'd want to pay us back by helping us back to the top again. One of the reasons everyone is poaching our youth is because they know if they came through the Broncos system they're well worth having. No other club develops players like us.

Those at the top have fiddled while Rome burned. With Kevvie and DD in charge that will soon all change and we'll be bigger and better than before.
There will be nothing sweeter than when we do get back up than giving the Storm an absolute flogging.

Mark my words its coming.

Duly marked.

 

[McHunt]

And then there was one

 

[vertigo]

The salary cap in this format makes it really hard for teams to get off the bottom of the ladder

Counter-point - don't keep gifting poison pill player options.

 

[1910]

The NRL could do worse than consider a points system and no cap.
All players get allocated a value and the 30 man squad can only add up to a certain amount.
Say 150 points for the total squad and players ranked from 1 to 10.
They could give discounts for developed players and 5 year same club players etc.

That's what the NRLW do.

 

[McHunt]

You have arrrived at your destination: shit creek.

 

[Kimlo]

The NRL could do worse than consider a points system and no cap.
All players get allocated a value and the 30 man squad can only add up to a certain amount.
Say 150 points for the total squad and players ranked from 1 to 10.
They could give discounts for developed players and 5 year same club players etc.

I love this idea, could also mean all "points" are public, so it's very transparent instead of the salary cap being all hush hush shady business.

 

[Kimlo]

That's what the NRLW do.

Are the "points" public?

 

[Big Pete]

There's a common misconception that the salary cap is there to 'even up' the competition. What it's actually there for is to make sure clubs don't go broke by over-spending on players. Some clubs could afford to pay for the salary cap out of their own earnings but you just wouldn't have a competition.

That's it really and yes there's plenty of flaws to it.

Since V'landys assumed the role of Chairman of the Comission, six head coaches have lost their jobs. It's difficult to build a club when coaches have to pick up the pieces and attempt to sell free agents on a vision when in all likelihood they won't be around to see the entire term of it.

I honestly wonder where the next crop of coaches are going to come from?

Donaghy is right when he says there's no reward for developing talent in the NRL. If they go ahead with a national reserve grade and U/21 competition then they have to fix that otherwise they're not going to draw anywhere near enough interest. Why bother watching all three grades knowing full and well that the best players will just end up playing for teams you hate?