Ben Hunt vs Ash Taylor

Sproj said:
Plus Hunt has about 150 more first grade games. This is not Hunt bashing, I'm a Hunt fan but it seems pretty obvious that Hunt SHOULD have a lot more material to choose from.
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Yeah, I'm talking about 2016 only.

And it's not so much the amount of material, it's the quality of it.
 
May as well compare them when they were at the same age.

Even then, Hunt was in his second season of full-time first grade, so naturally he should have been better equipped right?
 
Big Pete said:
May as well compare them when they were at the same age.

Even then, Hunt was in his second season of full-time first grade, so naturally he should have been better equipped right?
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That comparison would only be applicable if Taylor was stuck on the bench playing 15 - 20 mins a game.
 
And comparing a 26 year old with a 21 year old is somehow more applicable? Especially when said 26 year old has had 8 pre-seasons to come up through the system compared to Taylor who had to go to a club with less resources?

At least at 21 you're showing where they were at during that stage of their careers. At best, Hunt was a bench utility, meanwhile Taylor was a middle of the road halfback with a ton of upside.
 
If you compare McQueen to another young backrower, do you compare them when they were the same age despite the fact McQueen was a back?

No.

You compare them when they were both playing in the same position a whole season for the first time which would be 2014 for Hunt.
 
Big Pete said:
And comparing a 26 year old with a 21 year old is somehow more applicable? Especially when said 26 year old has had 8 pre-seasons to come up through the system compared to Taylor who had to go to a club with less resources?

At least at 21 you're showing where they were at during that stage of their careers. At best, Hunt was a bench utility, meanwhile Taylor was a middle of the road halfback with a ton of upside.
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Titans had nobody else.

We weren't in that position.
 
You can make as many excuses as you want. At the end of the day, Taylor put himself into a position where he could play full-time first grade as a halfback and made the most of it.

When Hunt was given opportunities at that stage of his career, he wasn't as useful and that was playing alongside THE greatest player of all-time.
 
Big Pete said:
And comparing a 26 year old with a 21 year old is somehow more applicable?
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true...

but since no coach is going to be stupid enough to hamper Taylor's development by wasting him away on the bench for 4 years like Griffin did with Hunt, then our only option (although not ideal) is to compare both players first years as starting halfback ... so 2014 for Hunt and 2016 for Taylor
 
Still far too many variables for it to be considered an even comparison.

Hunt also has to accept some responsibility for being branded a utility. Taylor was never in that position because of his skill-set.

As for the Chris McQueen comparison, that would make sense if Hunt came up as a dummy half and had to transition into the halves later on into his career but that isn't the case. He was simply a halfback who wasn't considered good enough for the role until the Broncos had no other choice than to give him a shot.
 
I'd like to see the comparison of the season. Comparing a bench player with a starting halfback.... come on BP.
 
It makes as much sense as comparing a player that's spent eight off-seasons in the one system and is surrounded by stars versus a rookie who found his way to one of the worst clubs in the NRL and played a nice hand in them making the finals.

In highlights package form produced by an ardent Broncos supporter...

No confirmation bias what-so-ever.
 
He's a Broncos fan on a Broncos website, running our Facebook. I'd say the bias is well warranted.

The emphasis on pre-seasons with stars is crazy too. Who cares if he had pre-seasons with them? He was still a bench player training out of position.

Given Taylor is said to be the second coming of Jesus, as is Hunt, I don't see the issue. All you're doing is giving more excuses for those arguing that one is better than the other.
 
Sure it is, but let's not pretend that these videos provide any sufficient evidence one way or another. Highlights alone fail to paint the full picture, especially when they're produced by somebody with an obvious bias.

I wasn't talking about training alongside Darren Lockyer but I'm sure that experience helped him greatly. I was talking about this season where Hunt was apart of the premiership favourites versus Taylor who was apart of the stinkin' Titans for crying out loud.

I'm saying you may as well consider the other side of the coin, which is that at 21 Taylor has displayed a ton of upside, more than Hunt had shown until he was 24.
 
Sproj said:
Plus Hunt has about 150 more first grade games. This is not Hunt bashing, I'm a Hunt fan but it seems pretty obvious that Hunt SHOULD have a lot more material to choose from.
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I thought it was pretty obvious he was just talking about the 2016 season tbf
 
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