OFFICIAL Game II Queensland Side

In relation to argument about kicking to Oates

The Blues peppered Oates with several high kicks, particularly in the first half, and Ferguson was adamant the opposition would not lose out with the inclusion of the Australian winger.

"To be honest I thought Val would have played in the first game, he's solid and composed," Ferguson said.

"That's just how the game went, we didn't try to kick it to the right side, Queensland were going down our left so naturally we kicked to the right."

http://www.nrl.com/ferguson-dugan-face-edge-of-unknown/tabid/10874/newsid/108915/default.aspx
 
BroncsFan said:
Yeah I'm pretty much thinking the same except the hard contact should come from his right side. He can't defend that as he has a left arm fend. He also he has zero ball playing before the line as he likes to make contact and offload.
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Nice analysis coach .
Details like that are gold . Woods offloading just as he`s about to be lifted and dumped is a detail as well . 3 men around him and the ball comes out the back with decent accuracy . Can hurt if not contained .
 
GKDonkey said:
In relation to argument about kicking to Oates

The Blues peppered Oates with several high kicks, particularly in the first half, and Ferguson was adamant the opposition would not lose out with the inclusion of the Australian winger.

"To be honest I thought Val would have played in the first game, he's solid and composed," Ferguson said.

"That's just how the game went, we didn't try to kick it to the right side, Queensland were going down our left so naturally we kicked to the right."

http://www.nrl.com/ferguson-dugan-face-edge-of-unknown/tabid/10874/newsid/108915/default.aspx
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I could interpret that as QLD were wanting to attack on Haynes side or , they were not able to use the full width of the field because NSW game plan corralled them to the left side starting with Oates kick return .
 
Perhaps if he'd seen Mitchell Moses fold like a $7 K-Mart lawn chair under the impressive bulk of Coen Hess last weekend, Johnathan Thurston would not have agreed to the test that he subjected his shoulder to in order to prove he was ready to play again.
Ever since recovering from a calf strain to take his place in the Kangaroos team for the mid-year Test, Thurston's subsequent shoulder complaint has provided a myriad of guestimates as to when the champion five-eighth might play again.
Named 18th man for Queensland ahead of Origin I, Thurston accepted his fate six days out from kick-off but before he was cleared to play his first game in five weeks last Saturday in Darwin, he subjected himself to the most daunting physical examination in the game today; tackling Cowboys colossus Coen Hess.

As his teammates trained for the cameras in the lead-up to their clash with the Eels, Thurston was whisked away to a secret location along with the two biggest blokes the Cowboys could muster – Hess and Corey Jensen – for some tackling practice.
Although Jensen may have been hesitant at the prospect of ending Thurston's season and representative career should the shoulder fail to cope with the load, surviving gave Thurston the confidence that he could handle anything Parramatta threw at him.
"I did some [tackling practice] on him and one of the other boys, Corey Jensen, who is like hitting granite," Thurston said of the Hess stress test.
"Once I'd tackled those two boys I knew that I was going to handle it."

Given the interest in his return both for club and state Thurston's test was conducted away from the main group but when he returned in one piece he received a rapturous reception.
"We had to take the heat off him because all the cameras were watching us. We let him do that in a secret spot," said Cowboys and Maroons back-rower Gavin Cooper.
"Once he came out he got a couple of high fives from the boys.
"One of the young boys that was running at him started off a little bit easy because they didn't want to hurt him again.
"He didn't want to be known as the one that put him out again.
"The physios and stuff did a really good job getting him back to where he is and I know he's raring to go."

The 34-year-old hadn't missed such a lengthy stint of football since suffering a knee injury in Game Three of the 2011 State of Origin Series, his shoulder injury bringing to an end his extraordinary run of 36 consecutive Origin matches for Queensland.
Having been battered from pillar to post against the Eels as he orchestrated a thumping win Thurston is now ready to exact revenge on New South Wales for the job they did on his team in his absence but he admitted that he was unsure how his shoulder would hold up prior to taking the field last weekend.

"It's been quite a while so it's been difficult to sit on the sidelines but injuries are a part of the game and unfortunate for me it's come this year," Thurston told NRL.com.
"I was very nervous. Obviously hadn't played a game in nearly six weeks so pretty nervous.
"Just worried about if the shoulder is right, if you've done enough work to perform at your best.
"You want to get through the game unscathed.
"I don't want to be out there and become a passenger in any team that I play and I was a little bit nervous about that."
Now there are three new faces and the return of a couple of very familiar ones for Thurston to get to know in a short space of time.

He knows it is on himself, Cooper Cronk and Cameron Smith to not only educate them in the culture of Queensland but also the manner in which they want to play but remains excited at the enthusiasm they will bring to the preparation.

"We've got four debutants which brings a lot of energy and it's about bringing those boys up to speed with how we want to play and how we want to execute our game-plan," said Thurston.

"Some of those boys have played in big matches before so they understand how to get the preparation right for the game but we all know that Origin is a different beast so it's about bringing those boys up to speed on the way that we want to attack and certainly defend.
"It's about enjoying the week as much as possible and when it's time to work you go to work."
http://www.nrl.com/secret-hess-test-behind-thurstons-return/tabid/10874/newsid/108960/default.aspx
 
XXXX Queensland Maroons
1. Billy Slater
2. Valentine Holmes
3. Will Chambers
4. Darius Boyd
5. Dane Gagai
6. Johnathan Thurston
7. Cooper Cronk
8. Dylan Napa
9. Cameron Smith (c)
10. Jarrod Wallace
11. Gavin Cooper
12. Matt Gillett
13. Josh McGuire
14. Michael Morgan
15. Josh Papalii
16. Coen Hess
17. Tim Glasby
18. Cameron Munster
Coach: Kevin Walters

Team I had on Monday was correct, Papalli to the bench.
 
The XXXX Queensland Maroons have today confirmed their line-up for Game II of the Holden State of Origin series.
After playing fullback in Game I, Darius Boyd moves to centre as part of a new-look backline which includes debutant Valentine Holmes and returning duo Billy Slater and Johnathan Thurston.
Jarrod Wallace has been named to start in the front row, while fellow newcomers Coen Hess and Tim Glasby will come off the interchange bench alongside Michael Morgan and Josh Papalii.
Wearing the No. 11 jersey, Gavin Cooper will make his first appearance in the Maroons starting line-up after making his debut off the bench in the final game of last year’s series.
QAS Emerging Origin squad members Andrew McCullough and Ben Hunt will run with the squad during the Maroons’ field session this morning on the Gold Coast.
The Storm’s Cameron Munster has been confirmed as the Maroons’ 18th man and will link with the Maroons in Sydney on Monday evening.
XXXX Queensland Maroons
1. Billy Slater
2. Valentine Holmes
3. Will Chambers
4. Darius Boyd
5. Dane Gagai
6. Johnathan Thurston
7. Cooper Cronk
8. Dylan Napa
9. Cameron Smith (c)
10. Jarrod Wallace
11. Gavin Cooper
12. Matt Gillett
13. Josh McGuire
14. Michael Morgan
15. Josh Papalii
16. Coen Hess
17. Tim Glasby
18. Cameron Munster
Coach: Kevin Walters

*Cough cough Wallace starting for QLD cough cough*
 
Boyd at centre seems a bizarre call.

I don't know why you wouldn't go

1. Slater
2. Boyd
3. Chambers
4. Gagai
5. Holmes

Gagai plays centre all year round, Boyd has played most his origin on the left wing, and Holmes won a GF as a right winger (iirc). Just seems like players are unecesserily out of position.
 
theshed said:
Boyd at centre seems a bizarre call.

I don't know why you wouldn't go

1. Slater
2. Boyd
3. Chambers
4. Gagai
5. Holmes

Gagai plays centre all year round, Boyd has played most his origin on the left wing, and Holmes won a GF as a right winger (iirc). Just seems like players are unecesserily out of position.
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Gagai has been our best player from the wing iyam
 
broncsgoat said:
Gagai has been our best player from the wing iyam
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I'm not denying that. He's also a good centre, a far more logical choice than putting Boyd there for the first time in 10 years.

It also makes you wonder why Oates was dropped for Holmes if Boyd was not moving to left wing.


Don't get me wrong, they all deserve to be there I just find it odd.
 
I like Wallace starting, I doubt he'd have much impact off the bench. Dno about Papa sitting on the pine, I reckon we need him to play 60 mins+ like he does at club level.
 
Team definitely makes more sense with Wallace starting, hopefully he can absorb some of that early punishment and allow guys like Papalii and Hess to come on and run over some tired defenders.
 
theshed said:
Boyd at centre seems a bizarre call.

I don't know why you wouldn't go

1. Slater
2. Boyd
3. Chambers
4. Gagai
5. Holmes

Gagai plays centre all year round, Boyd has played most his origin on the left wing, and Holmes won a GF as a right winger (iirc). Just seems like players are unecesserily out of position.
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I think its because he's good at setting up his outside men.
 
Does this team list meant Boyd will be playing right centre?..

Because that makes even less sense, Chambers is a natural right centre and Boyd is generally most dangerous on the left from what I've seen.
 
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