VOTE Would you be ok with Lodge as captain?

[rnabokov]

It's a no from me as well. I just can't see how Lodge at his age, would have the emotional maturity nor NRL experience, to be captain of the Broncos, a team seriously struggling to regain form. Maybe in 2-3 years

 

[CountingMaccasDiet]

If you think the branding problem was bad back then, imagine how bad it will be this time round
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Fall Down 7 Times Get Up 8... Except if you fell really badly and your fall was self inflicted. In that case , don't try to improve. Don't try and prove anyone wrong. Just accept you are lucky to be in the team.

 

[Midean]

If you think the branding problem was bad back then, imagine how bad it will be this time round
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Love locky and the king, two of the greatest players to ever wear our jersey, but that doesn’t mean I have to agree with them on everything, especially here

I agree mate, i dont agree with everything they say either, but i do take it into consideration when 2 legends who see Matt Lodge daily and would know all the ins and outs of his character, alongside the fact that they would be privy to what his team mates and the broncos staff think of him, make a judgement call on him, especially into such an important position to the club they love, then i tend to take that as a pretty good sign.

 

[broncsgoat]

2. He hasn't achieved anything. He's early 20s, hasn't played origin, hasn't played for australia, has no premierships etc. He isn't a winner. He has had quite a few absolute stinkers this season and often once he makes one error, he makes a few more. You can't have that in a leader. The captain should be someone experienced and who is an elite player.

100%

He’s good, but not nearly as good as BHQ seems to think, he’s not in the top 3 forwards we have.

 

[Super Freak]

We have moved on and I don’t doubt he’s doing well. But if your asking him to captain the most prestigious and commercially backed rugby league club in the world, I’m sorry, but commonsense needs to prevail

You're absolutely right, common sense should prevail. He is a completely different guy to the guy he was on that night 4 years ago. He has turned his life around, does a lot of good off the field especially for the club and should be allowed to achieve something great and make the best possible life for himself and his family.

 

[pagey]

The whole incident thing with lodge has nothing to do with why he should or shouldn't be captain. It's experience that should be the top priority, if the players look up to him then that's great but game experience is what we need.

 

[McHunt]

Broncos Gorden Tallis says fans ‘will hand back memberships’ if Matt Lodge is named captain​

• September 27, 2019 6:25am
• by George Clarke
• Source: FOX SPORTS

Lodge has emerged as a contender for the captaincy amid a review of the Broncos’ dismal season which was prompted after they crashed out of the finals with a 58-0 defeat to Parramatta after a night on the pokies.

A number of players have been told they are free to move on and Lodge has been earmarked as the next captain of the side amid reports Darius Boyd will be stripped of the role. And Tallis says the appointment of Lodge as skipper could inflict lasting damage on the Broncos.

“From all reports he’s turned it around and he’s working hard, and everybody deserves a second chance in life,” said Tallis on NRL360 on Fox League, alluding to Lodge’s assault in New York in 2015. “But the word around the street in Brisbane is people will hand back their memberships (if he’s named captain).

“That club, every captain has represented their country, they’ve held themselves a certain way on and off the field. “If he’s the leader of our club, the club is in trouble.” Tallis was joined on the panel by Ben Ikin, who suggested the Broncos should not give Lodge the role in order to protect him.

“We know what will happen if he’s named captain,” said Ikin. “This story will keep getting brought up over and over and over. “I think if the Broncos care for this young man as much as they claim, then perhaps they need to not give him the job, to save him from that kind of pressure, scrutiny, expectation.”

NRL 2019: Brisbane Broncos, captaincy, Matt Lodge, Gorden Tallis, Darius Boyd

Gorden Tallis says the Broncos will be in trouble and fans will hand back their memberships if Matt Lodge becomes captain of the side.

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[CountingMaccasDiet]

The whole incident thing with lodge has nothing to do with why he should or shouldn't be captain. It's experience that should be the top priority, if the players look up to him then that's great but game experience is what we need.

The incumbent captain has 300+ NRL games and played game at every level. If we lose that experience Parramatta beat us 100 nil? It's not experience that makes a guy turn his back It's character.

 

[Foordy]

Broncos Gorden Tallis says fans ‘will hand back memberships’ if Matt Lodge is named captain​

• September 27, 2019 6:25am
• by George Clarke
• Source: FOX SPORTS

Lodge has emerged as a contender for the captaincy amid a review of the Broncos’ dismal season which was prompted after they crashed out of the finals with a 58-0 defeat to Parramatta after a night on the pokies.

A number of players have been told they are free to move on and Lodge has been earmarked as the next captain of the side amid reports Darius Boyd will be stripped of the role. And Tallis says the appointment of Lodge as skipper could inflict lasting damage on the Broncos.

“From all reports he’s turned it around and he’s working hard, and everybody deserves a second chance in life,” said Tallis on NRL360 on Fox League, alluding to Lodge’s assault in New York in 2015. “But the word around the street in Brisbane is people will hand back their memberships (if he’s named captain).

“That club, every captain has represented their country, they’ve held themselves a certain way on and off the field. “If he’s the leader of our club, the club is in trouble.” Tallis was joined on the panel by Ben Ikin, who suggested the Broncos should not give Lodge the role in order to protect him.

“We know what will happen if he’s named captain,” said Ikin. “This story will keep getting brought up over and over and over. “I think if the Broncos care for this young man as much as they claim, then perhaps they need to not give him the job, to save him from that kind of pressure, scrutiny, expectation.”

NRL 2019: Brisbane Broncos, captaincy, Matt Lodge, Gorden Tallis, Darius Boyd

Gorden Tallis says the Broncos will be in trouble and fans will hand back their memberships if Matt Lodge becomes captain of the side.

www.foxsports.com.au

the raging fool needs STFU and worry about his beloved Titans, no longer being the joke of the league ... maybe then the Titans will actually get a member

 

[teampjta]

the raging fool needs STFU and worry about his beloved Titans, no longer being the joke of the league ... maybe then the Titans will actually get a member

I don’t agree with a lot of what he says as it tends to be agenda driven, but in this instance what is it that he said that was so wrong?

I watched the show and I have to say I don’t disagree with his comments,

 

[teampjta]

You're absolutely right, common sense should prevail. He is a completely different guy to the guy he was on that night 4 years ago. He has turned his life around, does a lot of good off the field especially for the club and should be allowed to achieve something great and make the best possible life for himself and his family.

Good for him, and by all accounts he’s doing right by his family and achieving something great now, therefore why burden the club with all the negative backlash that will follow
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I agree mate, i dont agree with everything they say either, but i do take it into consideration when 2 legends who see Matt Lodge daily and would know all the ins and outs of his character, alongside the fact that they would be privy to what his team mates and the broncos staff think of him, make a judgement call on him, especially into such an important position to the club they love, then i tend to take that as a pretty good sign.

Again, as much as I respect the two I still don’t have to agree with their views on this sensitive topic

 

[pagey]

The incumbent captain has 300+ NRL games and played game at every level. If we lose that experience Parramatta beat us 100 nil? It's not experience that makes a guy turn his back It's character.

Agreed character is important but still you want your captain to have experience and knowledge, and that's what will get you through the big games.

 

[Marty Deutschmann]

Lol to support Lodge on this forum is incredibly popular, in that regard I am doing the opposite of what you are saying.

I highly doubt if watching this video will sway my opinions too much, in fact I'm sure it's mostly pr spin. But if it helps me form a more balanced and informed viewpoint than I will give it a watch when I find the time [emoji106]

That reply is exactly why I believe you don't want to change your mind on him. You're actually dedicated to cancel the gig instead of hear the truth from his mouth.

 

[john1420]

Nah. Co-Captains is shit. Clubs have a captain, none of this new age not make a decision, not hurt another players feelings bullshit.

Easy there @Nashy :)
I never said a damn thing about not hurting a players feelings, and I'm a staunch hater of new age (and PC for that matter)
The club should make the right decision, whatever that looks like
I don't know if a shared captaincy is the right thing in this case, as I don't work at the club and have the knowledge required, I'm just saying IF you had a guy that had the on field leadership you wanted but he didn't have the skills to do media/promotion stuff, then 2 captains each with a defined and separate role might be a good option
Nothing new age about and nothing to do with sparing a blokes feelings
If I was worried about that, I'd be suggesting leaving Boyd as captain, which I'm not

 

[CountingMaccasDiet]

Agreed character is important but still you want your captain to have experience and knowledge, and that's what will get you through the big games.

Yes you're right of course. Captain is that unicorn with all the qualities. At the moment club is more donkeys and Colts.

 

[ostin86]

No. Also testimonials and statements from his fellow peers. From others close to him.

Watch this interview with him to understand more. Pay attention especially to the 40min mark and listen to what JYY has to say about Lodge, his character, his determination and how he speaks to what he's done to turn his life around.

If you don't bother to watch and listen to this very honest and candid interview, then you basically want to just keep holding the belief that he's a bad guy without understanding him at all. Because to support Lodge would be unpopular, and you don't want to stand out from the crowd.

So I took your advice and watched the whole video. I would be lying if I said that my opinion on Lodge has not somewhat shifted.

A couple of things struck me about the video. Firstly, it was a bit of a grind to get through. The hosts were not overly engaging and it was fairly obvious that the show is a bit of a work in progress.

More importantly, what kept me interested was listening to what Lodge himself had to say. I found him to be very honest and genuine in all his responses. I would agree that at the very least he is taking great strides in trying to turn his life around. I can honestly say that I see him in a different light.

You mentioned that I should keep a close eye on what JYY had to say about Lodge. I did and I found that I put more stock into what Lodge had to say about himself, rather than what Jharal was sprouting.

In regards to him being captain, he certainly seems the kind of guy who could offer some good leadership to our younger players. Lessons learnt from his own mistakes will prove to be valuable advice to any troubled player who is willing to listen. I think he may have earnt the right to some sort of leadership role within the team, just not the captaincy. And I definitely agree with people who are pointing out that being thrust into that role might actually set back his development. I know he said he would accept it....but does he even want it?

Lastly and unfortunately for Lodge I still think he will have to live with consequences of his troubled past. Sure he can't remember what happened in the US but it does excuse the fact that it's something he will have to live with. And i still struggle with the claims of DV commited against his former girlfriend. I have seen first hand how that kind of thing can very negatively affect the life of the victim, as I'm sure many people on this forum have also.

So yeah still a no for me, but I am comfortable with supporting him in some kind of leadership role within the club but more importantly supporting him as a Brisbane Bronco.

Apologies for the wall of text.
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That reply is exactly why I believe you don't want to change your mind on him. You're actually dedicated to cancel the gig instead of hear the truth from his mouth.

Just seen this. Might want to read my last reply mate.

 

[ostin86]

the raging fool needs STFU and worry about his beloved Titans, no longer being the joke of the league ... maybe then the Titans will actually get a member

Saw Gordon Tallis in the headline and did not even bother to read.

 

[Nashy]

Easy there @Nashy :)
I never said a damn thing about not hurting a players feelings, and I'm a staunch hater of new age (and PC for that matter)
The club should make the right decision, whatever that looks like
I don't know if a shared captaincy is the right thing in this case, as I don't work at the club and have the knowledge required, I'm just saying IF you had a guy that had the on field leadership you wanted but he didn't have the skills to do media/promotion stuff, then 2 captains each with a defined and separate role might be a good option
Nothing new age about and nothing to do with sparing a blokes feelings
If I was worried about that, I'd be suggesting leaving Boyd as captain, which I'm not

I'm assuming in my post that you aren't a coach of a club. To think I'm saying YOU are trying to not hurt feelings is a bit silly don't you think.