NRLW & General Women's Rugby League Discussion 2021-22

Not sure what the answer is but the NRLW does need to be artificially populated so it keeps going. If teams are weak and you get beaten 100-0 then it will fall over.

The comp has such a massive turn over about 40% year to year and such a limited pool of players. You can't have the same attitude as you can to men and let the strong survive.
Having effectively 3 more clubs and doubling the talent needs is too much. Should’ve extended the season first using one of the 3 new teams this year to an 8 week season.

Then next year add another team, provided everything works, slightly longer season again or shorter with just each team playing the other once - whatever works best.

Keep a highly concentrated player base where you’ll have multiple teams that could win, rather than the ones that didn’t get pulled apart to make up the new teams

It just reeks of NSWRL stacking the deck while throwing the players under the bus at the same time with the lack of organisation, planning and thought put into it.
 
Not sure what the answer is but the NRLW does need to be artificially populated so it keeps going. If teams are weak and you get beaten 100-0 then it will fall over.

The comp has such a massive turn over about 40% year to year and such a limited pool of players. You can't have the same attitude as you can to men and let the strong survive.
If the roosters won 3 premierships in a row there is NO WAY THIS WOULD BE HAPPENING. No chance, zero. Good on the girls. **** moving for half the minimum wage in a lockdown era haha... " but it's different to the men".... correct it is, they would avtually be more justified asking the men. There's regular blow outs with the same teams leading and they get paid more and are professional... The men have more reason to do it but.... it's not the Broncos so......
 
Having effectively 3 more clubs and doubling the talent needs is too much. Should’ve extended the season first using one of the 3 new teams this year to an 8 week season.

Then next year add another team, provided everything works, slightly longer season again or shorter with just each team playing the other once - whatever works best.

Keep a highly concentrated player base where you’ll have multiple teams that could win, rather than the ones that didn’t get pulled apart to make up the new teams

It just reeks of NSWRL stacking the deck while throwing the players under the bus at the same time with the lack of organisation, planning and thought put into it.

I think the goal is for every NRL club to have a NRLW club and that is what they're working towards.

The problem with making the season longer is that standard gets less as the season goes on- we already see that with four games in a year and BHP was slowing up towards the end.

I think the argument of just do nothing and see where free trade falls won't work, it needs some intervention from the NRL.

They just simply don't have the numbers and these players saying I can't move to the Coast for a month- already live there and play for the Bears!

The massive turn over means the girls are moving every year.

Three teams is probably too much I agree but I think the competition needs to keep moving and changing to stay relevant and progressing. Until they have enough girls that you can see do whatever you want now.

They're like a teenager at the moment, still need rules and structure- you don't just give them your car, a phone and credit card and say you'll be right.
 
Another part of that story quotes her as saying ‘you wouldn’t split up Melbourne to fix the Tigers’

Tigers copping it from the women’s comp now haha

What a legend
Enough Millie, I already love you.
 
I think the goal is for every NRL club to have a NRLW club and that is what they're working towards.

Are the clubs offered any financial incentive.....to get a team together?
Seems this would be a fairer way, rather than to try and force players into a club they don't want to be at.
 
Titans announce their first five signings, who are their share of the top 30 central contracts


Crystal Tamarua, Georgia Hale, Karina Brown, Tazmin Gray and Brittany Breayley-Nati
 
Titans announce their first five signings, who I believe are their share of the top 30 central contracts


Crystal Tamarua, Georgia Hale, Karina Brown, Tazmin Gray and Brittany Breayley-Nati

Hale is so good, so very good. I have her above Ali at the moment- based on BHP form.
 
Are the clubs offered any financial incentive.....to get a team together?
Seems this would be a fairer way, rather than to try and force players into a club they don't want to be at.

No it costs clubs nearly 500k to have a team for a month, it's expensive.
 
Hale is so good, so very good. I have her above Ali at the moment- based on BHP form.
Fair to say that Ali has more ups and downs and Hale is more consistent, but Ali’s highs are better?

Hale was one of few keeping the Warriors competitive
 
New info about the points cap system:

Under a marquee and points cap system, players across the game have been allocated into eight different categories.

A player's highest level of representation will be counted to the overall figure only.

The maximum number of points a club can accrue is 130 per squad of 24 players.

The breakdown is:

  • 10 points - A player who was offered a "Tier A" central contract for the 2021 NRLW season - a maximum of four players at each club only;
  • 9 points - A player who was selected and participated in the 2020 Women's State of Origin;
  • 8 points - A player who was selected and participated in the 2019 Women’s State of Origin; OR
  • 8 points - A player who was selected to represent and participated in the respective Test between a Tier One country against a Tier One country in the 2019 calendar year;
  • 6 points - A player who was selected and participated in the 2018 Women’s State of Origin; OR
  • 6 points - A player who was selected to represent and participated in the respective Test for a Tier One country in the 2018 calendar year;
  • 4 points - A player who was selected to represent and participated in the 2021 All Stars match; OR
  • 4 points - A player who participated in the 2020 NRLW Premiership;
  • 3 points - A player who was selected to represent and participated in the 2020 All Stars match; OR
  • 3 points - A player who participated in the 2019 NRLW Premiership; OR
  • 3 points - A player who was selected to represent a Tier Two country in the 2019 calendar year;
  • 2 points - A player who was selected to represent and participated in the 2019 All Stars match; OR
  • 2 points - A player who was selected to represent the Prime Minister’s XIII in 2018 or 2019;
  • 1 point - All other players who do not fit any of the above criteria.
 
New info about the points cap system:

Under a marquee and points cap system, players across the game have been allocated into eight different categories.

A player's highest level of representation will be counted to the overall figure only.

The maximum number of points a club can accrue is 130 per squad of 24 players.

The breakdown is:

  • 10 points - A player who was offered a "Tier A" central contract for the 2021 NRLW season - a maximum of four players at each club only;
  • 9 points - A player who was selected and participated in the 2020 Women's State of Origin;
  • 8 points - A player who was selected and participated in the 2019 Women’s State of Origin; OR
  • 8 points - A player who was selected to represent and participated in the respective Test between a Tier One country against a Tier One country in the 2019 calendar year;
  • 6 points - A player who was selected and participated in the 2018 Women’s State of Origin; OR
  • 6 points - A player who was selected to represent and participated in the respective Test for a Tier One country in the 2018 calendar year;
  • 4 points - A player who was selected to represent and participated in the 2021 All Stars match; OR
  • 4 points - A player who participated in the 2020 NRLW Premiership;
  • 3 points - A player who was selected to represent and participated in the 2020 All Stars match; OR
  • 3 points - A player who participated in the 2019 NRLW Premiership; OR
  • 3 points - A player who was selected to represent a Tier Two country in the 2019 calendar year;
  • 2 points - A player who was selected to represent and participated in the 2019 All Stars match; OR
  • 2 points - A player who was selected to represent the Prime Minister’s XIII in 2018 or 2019;
  • 1 point - All other players who do not fit any of the above criteria.

How's it changed from last year? Seems more categories maybe?
 
How's it changed from last year? Seems more categories maybe?
Lower squad points total with more players too

2020:
Each club will be allowed to sign 22 players whose value totals a maximum of 160 points, with a player worth:

  • 10 points if they represented a tier 1 country against a Tier 1 country (Jillaroos or Kiwi Ferns) in 2019;
  • 8 points if they played State of Origin for NSW or Queensland in 2019;
  • 6 points if they played in the if they represented a Tier 1 country against a Tier 1 country (Jillaroos or Kiwi Ferns) in 2018;
  • 4 points if they represented a Tier 1 country against a Tier 2 country in 2019;
  • 4 points if they played State of Origin for NSW or Queensland in 2018;
  • 4 points if they represented the PM’s XIII in 2019;
  • 3 points if they played at the 2019 National Championships;
  • 2 points if they represented the PM’s XIII in 2018.
 
Now I’ve had a decent chance to look, there’s some strange arbitrary point allocation going on

2020: a player plays 2018 Origin is worth 4 points in a 160pt 22 player squad

2021: a player plays 2018 Origin is worth 6 points in a 130pt 24 player squad

I mean I understand they’re trying to spread players, but a player from Origin 3 years ago shouldn’t be worth more than they were if it were only 2 years ago. Very probable that players have since played a higher points tier game, but it could potentially cost a player a spot in a roster because they played one game 3 years ago and have only played BHP/HN since, yet are worth two-thirds the points of a marquee
 
Newcastle sign Caitlin Johnston as their first marquee. They've had trouble securing them as my next bit shows


Corban Baxter (M)
Shawden Burton
Olivia Higgins
Mya Hill-Moana
Keilee Joseph
Jocelyn Kelleher
Isabelle Kelly (M)
Olivia Kernick
Yasmin Meakes
Roxette Murdoch
Brydie Parker
Tayla Predebon
Otesa Pule
Jessica Sergis (M)
Hannah Southwell (M)
Zahara Temara
Sarah Togatuki

Leianne Tufuga

Roosters gain Sergis and get Kelly back. Can't wait to smash those hacks
 

The Broader Game: NRLW games up to 70 minutes to promote fatigue factor​

Alicia Newton NRLW Chief Reporter
Thu 8 Jul 2021, 02:03 PM

The NRL Telstra Women's Premiership will expand its regular game time to 70 minutes this season in another step towards building a stronger competition in 2021.

An increase of five additional minutes per half comes after women's Ampol State of Origin jumped from 60 to 70 minutes in 2020.

The expanded time adds to matches increasing from seven to 18 this season, along with the number of playing weeks increasing from four to seven.

NRLW teams will go from playing a minimum of 240 minutes in a season to a maximum 490 minutes, excluding potential golden point.

In 2020, the NRLW averaged 41.1 minutes of ball in play within 60 minutes of game time.

A total of 10 of 42 tries from sides came in the final 15 minutes of matches.

During the 2020 State of Origin match, two tries were scored in the final 10 minutes of play to set up a grandstand finish between NSW and Queensland.

More recently, the Maroons were able to kick a penalty goal with two minutes left on the clock last month in regular time they wouldn't have had in previous years.

The average time in play for both Origin clashes has seen a jump of more than six minutes.

Roosters captain Corban Baxter told The Broader Game the additional time in the NRLW would allow sides to build into a match and take advantage of fatigue.

"I think it's a positive move and something the girls will thrive with, having that extra 10 minutes," Baxter said.

"I think the players have handled the 60 minutes quite well. It feels over before you know it and that's been the feedback from a lot of players.

"When you take into account tries being scored and goals kicked, it takes time away from having the ball in hand.

"It is actually a fair jump, there are a few studies around what that last five minutes of each half can do for a team.

"People want to see more game time and this is going to help a lot."

The change isn't the only one expected for the NRLW this year with an 18th player due to be activated in line with the men's competition for an act of foul play or the failing of three HIAs in a match.

The six-again rules are again not expected to apply in the NRLW with penalties awarded instead.

Jillaroos strength and conditioning coach Simon Buxton said players' workloads had been a priority throughout the year and will be monitored across the NRLW and into the World Cup.

NRLW players in NSW have been exposed to a busier workload in the first half of the season through their local club rugby league competitions compared to players in Queensland and New Zealand.

"This year we forecast how many games an elite player might play in regards to representative and club footy and for some, it's a lot," Buxton said.

"We work with the RLPA in terms of sending correspondence out to the Harvey Norman or BHP clubs to be mindful of workload for some players and potentially rest players at certain times given what's ahead.

"Player burnout is definitely something we're wary of especially coming up to a big second half of the year which will hopefully include internationals and the World Cup."

 
Parramatta add Rikeya Horne and Nita Maynard, along with HNP players from Mounties and Wenty

 

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